International womenz day..nt a stupid day!!!

Wal Bada

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  • aye_sha90 said:
    but I dnt think itz right that woman is treated brutally by men ...
    No question about it. No one should be treated brutally by another person. It's wrong in the eyes of law and morals. It's not only women. Men, Women, choldren or even animals should not be brutally treated.

    aye_sha90 said:
    And I was not speaking abt Sri-Lanka ... but how was the Europe and hw r stil sum countries in ths world ...
    Accepted, and there are sill communities in SL within estates and Muslim community where women are treated like slaves, sex slaves or like machines that produce children. Being a doctor working in a remote area, I have enough first hand experiances of it.

    aye_sha90 said:
    Our minimum rights n dignity canot b denied, because the human is the same n da freedom of beein a person is our human right!.. you are talking without understandin my concept. This day was chosn afta protests took place on 8 March in sm countries in da world n coz of a sake into a factory tht causd many victimz...
    Any persons minimum rights and dignities cannot be denied. No question about it, and women are at a disadvantages position most of the time. But this "woman's rights" movements of West do not understand that same principles cannot be used to address problems in East.

    Our society is based not only on rights. That's why you find people of West only talking of their rights being violated. Here it's a fine balance between rights and duties. More you have rights , more you have duties / obligations. You cannot escape from your duties / obligations and enjoy your rights.

    If you want to come to SL and want to address problems of women here, these will be staring points.

    #1 - Wife battering, a serious problem within un educated. Main reasons are illicit liquor and low educational level of the women. Now if you can get rid of illicit liquor and educate women bit more on problem solving, wife battering will be a thing of rarity

    #2 - Most women on estates are malnourished and anemic. They'll have one loaf of bread shared among a family of 6-8. Pain tea plus that piece of bread is their main meal. Give these women liberty from hunger, then we can educate them about their rights / duties / obligations

    #3 - Give women their reproductive rights. Muslim women are not alowed to use contraception. But as doctors (non-Muslim ones) we persuade them to do so. Quite a number of them come to our clinics without the tknowledge of their husbands to get contraception. Now if a woman is found out, according to Muslim law the man can divorce her very easily. So fight for having "one law for all races" and for women to decide on contraception and their husbands to help them on that matter.

    Hope you got an idea about grass-root level situation in our country.
     
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    Wal Bada said:
    No question about it. No one should be treated brutally by another person. It's wrong in the eyes of law and morals. It's not only women. Men, Women, choldren or even animals should not be brutally treated.

    Accepted, and there are sill communities in SL within estates and Muslim community where women are treated like slaves, sex slaves or like machines that produce children. Being a doctor working in a remote area, I have enough first hand experiances of it.

    Any persons minimum rights and dignities cannot be denied. No question about it, and women are at a disadvantages position most of the time. But this "woman's rights" movements of West do not understand that same principles cannot be used to address problems in East.

    Our society is based not only on rights. That's why you find people of West only talking of their rights being violated. Here it's a fine balance between rights and duties. More you have rights , more you have duties / obligations. You cannot escape from your duties / obligations and enjoy your rights.

    If you want to come to SL and want to address problems of women here, these will be staring points.

    #1 - Wife battering, a serious problem within un educated. Main reasons are illicit liquor and low educational level of the women. Now if you can get rid of illicit liquor and educate women bit more on problem solving, wife battering will be a thing of rarity

    #2 - Most women on estates are malnourished and anemic. They'll have one loaf of bread shared among a family of 6-8. Pain tea plus that piece of bread is their main meal. Give these women liberty from hunger, then we can educate them about their rights / duties / obligations

    #3 - Give women their reproductive rights. Muslim women are not alowed to use contraception. But as doctors (non-Muslim ones) we persuade them to do so. Quite a number of them come to our clinics without the tknowledge of their husbands to get contraception. Now if a woman is found out, according to Muslim law the man can divorce her very easily. So fight for having "one law for all races" and for women to decide on contraception and their husbands to help them on that matter.

    Hope you got an idea about grass-root level situation in our country.
    :P wal bado ideaz nam hondai:( eth diga wedi:shocked: ketiyen liwwanam agei:) mage as dekha dan :eek: me wage:cool:
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    No question about it. No one should be treated brutally by another person. It's wrong in the eyes of law and morals. It's not only women. Men, Women, choldren or even animals should not be brutally treated.

    Accepted, and there are sill communities in SL within estates and Muslim community where women are treated like slaves, sex slaves or like machines that produce children. Being a doctor working in a remote area, I have enough first hand experiances of it.

    Any persons minimum rights and dignities cannot be denied. No question about it, and women are at a disadvantages position most of the time. But this "woman's rights" movements of West do not understand that same principles cannot be used to address problems in East.

    Our society is based not only on rights. That's why you find people of West only talking of their rights being violated. Here it's a fine balance between rights and duties. More you have rights , more you have duties / obligations. You cannot escape from your duties / obligations and enjoy your rights.

    If you want to come to SL and want to address problems of women here, these will be staring points.

    #1 - Wife battering, a serious problem within un educated. Main reasons are illicit liquor and low educational level of the women. Now if you can get rid of illicit liquor and educate women bit more on problem solving, wife battering will be a thing of rarity

    #2 - Most women on estates are malnourished and anemic. They'll have one loaf of bread shared among a family of 6-8. Pain tea plus that piece of bread is their main meal. Give these women liberty from hunger, then we can educate them about their rights / duties / obligations

    #3 - Give women their reproductive rights. Muslim women are not alowed to use contraception. But as doctors (non-Muslim ones) we persuade them to do so. Quite a number of them come to our clinics without the tknowledge of their husbands to get contraception. Now if a woman is found out, according to Muslim law the man can divorce her very easily. So fight for having "one law for all races" and for women to decide on contraception and their husbands to help them on that matter.

    Hope you got an idea about grass-root level situation in our country.

    im replyn soon....
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    No question about it. No one should be treated brutally by another person. It's wrong in the eyes of law and morals. It's not only women. Men, Women, choldren or even animals should not be brutally treated.

    Accepted, and there are sill communities in SL within estates and Muslim community where women are treated like slaves, sex slaves or like machines that produce children. Being a doctor working in a remote area, I have enough first hand experiances of it.

    Any persons minimum rights and dignities cannot be denied. No question about it, and women are at a disadvantages position most of the time. But this "woman's rights" movements of West do not understand that same principles cannot be used to address problems in East.

    Our society is based not only on rights. That's why you find people of West only talking of their rights being violated. Here it's a fine balance between rights and duties. More you have rights , more you have duties / obligations. You cannot escape from your duties / obligations and enjoy your rights.

    If you want to come to SL and want to address problems of women here, these will be staring points.

    #1 - Wife battering, a serious problem within un educated. Main reasons are illicit liquor and low educational level of the women. Now if you can get rid of illicit liquor and educate women bit more on problem solving, wife battering will be a thing of rarity

    #2 - Most women on estates are malnourished and anemic. They'll have one loaf of bread shared among a family of 6-8. Pain tea plus that piece of bread is their main meal. Give these women liberty from hunger, then we can educate them about their rights / duties / obligations

    #3 - Give women their reproductive rights. Muslim women are not alowed to use contraception. But as doctors (non-Muslim ones) we persuade them to do so. Quite a number of them come to our clinics without the tknowledge of their husbands to get contraception. Now if a woman is found out, according to Muslim law the man can divorce her very easily. So fight for having "one law for all races" and for women to decide on contraception and their husbands to help them on that matter.

    Hope you got an idea about grass-root level situation in our country.



    Western thought fo these countries is beein allowd to b the same as men, yeah but hv i talkd abt d@?.. .

    . in the East, third world countries n as Muslims, they hve more problems to think thn these riots and demonstrations for

    equality between men nd women, Im nt at all sayin what you told is wrong, but these protest addresse 2 goals fo

    givin an opportunity to women nd not let people behavin usin women n seein em as objectz.. does evry part in

    the world hv got da human rights fo women? writnn on a paper, or nt writtn even! ds is as impossible,

    coz a country cant change if peoplez mind dsnt!do they live freely?. 1st closed between bars nd controlld by the father,

    then given 2 a man without even asking her opinion .. Lot of women can be mistreated, beaten without any1 WHO speakS fo

    them. Some governments r hidin these injustices as well,nd thousands of women r beein raped nd killed in frnt of the "blind" eyes of people.

    Im nt refring 2 wht women, in here wnt 2 hv..personally i thnk iz nonsens, but da objectivie is changin da condition in other countries,

    changin the tragic situationz sum women face. What u hav told me, yh i do knw..n u're right, only 3 points

    of the problems in ours n othr NT ONLY 3RD WRLd countries hv ... but many problems can be solved with a minimum of education,

    not just school, but education of children in the family n 1st of all changin the parents' mind.

    the ignorance is da base of these problems..!.

    Women hve the same right to study, live, nt beein abused;

    i repeat, beein treated as a person! SO u hv told da human rights cant b denied,

    but u do think they aint denied? they are,

    n daz wht i've bn tryin to tel fo days..

    i might write a list of da unfair acts against women. What do u think abt the infabulation?

    This inhumanity shouldnt be stopped? Hw many infections, the death of lil girls n beein physically n psycologically down,

    livin a life of anger, sadness... Acid thrown 2 women's faces; the right men hv to kill their woman if discovered in sexual acts with a man

    .. stoning .. These re the sum othrs thngs to which Im referring ... freedom of a human!!!i put ds thread fo remembrin ds international day

    , important fo sum women in da world, who now...afta centuries got da freedom of votin n beein free...C, ds is important fo these women, of coz ..

    .which othr problems they do hv?? ma point infact wasnt d@!! this discusion is out of ma topic, but ds is also a stuff connectd 2 wht i've writtn.

    I hop u hv undstood wht i meant!
     

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    i do agree wid wht u hv told bro, but i dnt thnk v hv 2 close our mouth n eyes ...coz only if v r in their situation v undstood d@! those thngz u added should b changed!!!!! da culture is n auntenthic thing 2 keeep wid us, but nt da injustice!!! ;) there is a difference between those
     

    Wal Bada

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  • but these protest addresse 2 goals for givin an opportunity to women nd not let people behavin usin women n seein em as objectz..
    Now this problem has originated from west. In east every body used to see any woman as a mother, sister or a daughter. That's why we still call even strangers that way in SL. The root of the problem lies in Abrahmic religions that beleive woman was created from man and she has driven the man towards sins. Oriental religions are much more liberal with their approach as all of these religions put a huge price tag on the concept of "mother"
     

    Wal Bada

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  • does evry part in the world hv got da human rights fo women? writnn on a paper, or nt writtn even!
    There are parts of world no one is able to fulfil their basic human rights. not only women. My view is a holistic viewpoint that every body should get their rights preserved.

    By dividing society as women's rights, children's rights so on it will add to the number of divisions where the intellectuals and activists are divided according many subjects. Now what we lose is the summative power of that lot. When ever we specify a group, we are creating still another division among these resource people.

    Then you'll be in shock to know that concept of human rights is a myth. Human rights centers on the concept "me, me, me, my, my, my, mine, mine . . ." There is absolutely no attention on the responsibilities of a person. If you are not responsible, you should not get your rights. You should earn it by being responsible. This is the new concept of "community rights".

    This simple example can be used to show what is community and human rights. Now imaging a space ship which was sent up to the orbit by some country, carries 2 tons of Plutonium. Spaceship carries 10 astronauts. Due to an explosion the ship throws off the orbit and enters atmosphere. There is a risk of the ship exploding and releasing Plutonium in to the atmosphere and killing millions on earth. To stop that ship should be blown off by a missile in next 10 seconds. 10 astronauts can save their lives if control tower gives them another half a minute.

    Now who are you going to save? Community vs personal rights. Think about it, and you'll gradually understand that concept of human rights is it self invalid.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • Women hve the same right to study, live, nt beein abused;i repeat, beein treated as a person! SO u hv told da human rights cant b denied, but u do think they aint denied? they are,
    Is it only women's? No, No, No. The fraction of women may be higher, but the problem should be addressed as a one whole problem. Not by dividing it in to little pieses then pulling your hairs out to re-intergrate them.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • might write a list of da unfair acts against women. What do u think abt the infabulation? This inhumanity shouldnt be stopped? Hw many infections, the death of lil girls n beein physically n psycologically down, livin a life of anger, sadness... Acid thrown 2 women's faces
    ALL these problems have happened to men and children as well. The problem the west see is the victim being a woman. The problem east see is what made that man throw acid (the problem behind the intent). Your solution begins from the blossoms of the tree. Mine begin from the roots.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • Finally I have to say that method of beginning from the end to solve problems works in western society, and that had been shown very well by preservation of women's rights in those countries. But in oriental countries like ours, problems shuold be addressed from thr roots (because we have, deeper and older roots than the west, and by cutting the buds you cannot destroy the tree). As I said before, to conserve women's rights you must first feed them, give them clean water, give them a place to live, give them the freedom of reproduction. Without addressing these you'll never achieve your goals in countries like SL>