Is Buddha's teaching practical?..... Then, now and Forever?

Buddha's teaching is


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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    yes,
    for the one who does not know
    he suffers
    all the time
    with anger, sorrow, dissapointment etc.. etc,
    and want a way out of THAT suffering.


    dats life mate, its d nature of d human dat is science. a way out is not d way going thru is d only way according to science.

    we all know what Buddhist monks suppose to do "a way out" but we continue to see politics, benz cars, washee gurukam why?? dey too wana live a better life dey dont care abt d "way out" coz dats impossible only way is going tru da life u hav and wont hav again. dats what is Science all about
     

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    OptiplexFx said:
    mamanam danagena hitiy naa, Wishwaya hakilena saha prasaranaya wena kathawak budu hamuduruwo kiwwa kiyala, ehema kiwwanam eka loku deyak. Mamnag danag hitiye vishwaye agak mulak nathi bawa kiwwua kiyala witharai. Big bang theory eketh cycle ekak gana kiyanawa, eka nissa sambandayak ganna puluwan, namuth eka godak general vague sambandayak witharai.


    Thawath grahaloka thibuna bawa Budu hamudurowanta issella kattiya kiyala thiyenawa, Chinese kattiya 2000BC waladi (ee kiyanne budu hamuduruwan ipedenna awurudu 1500 kata withara isella, brahaspathi ge orbit eka indan calculate karala thiyenawa), Budu hamuduruwange samakaleena Pythagoras mulu wishwaya genama adahas pala karala thiyenawa. Eka nissa budu hamuduruwange kale wenakota graha loka gana saha tharaka gana samahara kattiyata awabhodayak thibuna. Budu hamuduruwo ee adahas nuth thmange dharmayara ekathu karagaththa wenna puluwan.


    Basic concepts kiwwe Rebirth, Nirvana and Karma wage dewal, oya thuna budu dahame vedagath karunu thunak. Namuth oya thunen ekakwath thawama scientificaly prove karala naa. Mama kiyanne naa ewwata proof nathi nisa boru kiyala, mama kiyanne api danna science walin oppu karala nathi nisa apita hariyatama ewwa aththa kiyala scientifically kiyanna baa kiyana ekai. Scientifically kiyanna barinam science newei. Onna ochcharai mang kiyanne.

    uba monawa kiwwath uba dannawada albert ainstein kiwwa kathawaa
    he told
    if there is any religion in this world which is close to science
    it is budhism

    and y said y did not know that lord buddha did not talk about big band theary
    are y a buddhist?
    uba isskoole giya kale buddhism kale nada?

    grade 10.11 book wala ewa thibuna ubata mathaka nadda?
     

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    Yes as I think Buddha's teachings are practical.

    But it is NOT a science.

    Buddhism is a Philosophy. Not a science nor a religion.

    While they have some overlapping between the 3 domains, there is a clear difference as well.


    Cannot answer to the other part (then, now & forever) with the limited intelligence I have.
    Because it creates a paradox if I say it is practical "forever". Because one of the important aspects of Buddhism is "anithya" so nothing remains forever.
     
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    AtulaSiriwardane said:

    It has been proved
    that Buddha's Dhamma
    is
    not only
    Pure Science
    and
    purely Practical for every human being
    whether he/she knows it or not


    Then,
    now
    and Forever
    .
    :lol::lol::lol::lol: Where is your so called "Anithya" mate?
     
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    OptiplexFx said:
    mamanam danagena hitiy naa, Wishwaya hakilena saha prasaranaya wena kathawak budu hamuduruwo kiwwa kiyala, ehema kiwwanam eka loku deyak. Mamnag danag hitiye vishwaye agak mulak nathi bawa kiwwua kiyala witharai. Big bang theory eketh cycle ekak gana kiyanawa, eka nissa sambandayak ganna puluwan, namuth eka godak general vague sambandayak witharai.

    mcn,eka gana ahala na kiyana1 gananan mata godak kanagaatui.:(:(

    a gana danaganna menna mekata gihin balannako http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128844

    Bigbang theory1 thamay Scientistla puduma karawapu Budu hamuduruwange theory1..Bigbang theory eka gana kiyala budu hamuduruwo kiwwe ethanin ehata hoyanna yanna epa kiyalay..
    eka budu hamuduruwo hoyagaththe Mind1 diyunu karala..naththam a kaale budu hamuduruwanta satrlite tibune nane ewa hoyanna..a nisa ekenma oppu wenawa budu hamuduruwo kiyanna Manasa koi tharam diyunu karapu pudgalayekada kiyala..


    OptiplexFx said:
    Thawath grahaloka thibuna bawa Budu hamudurowanta issella kattiya kiyala thiyenawa, Chinese kattiya 2000BC waladi (ee kiyanne budu hamuduruwan ipedenna awurudu 1500 kata withara isella, brahaspathi ge orbit eka indan calculate karala thiyenawa), Budu hamuduruwange samakaleena Pythagoras mulu wishwaya genama adahas pala karala thiyenawa. Eka nissa budu hamuduruwange kale wenakota graha loka gana saha tharaka gana samahara kattiyata awabhodayak thibuna. Budu hamuduruwo ee adahas nuth thmange dharmayara ekathu karagaththa wenna puluwan.

    gahakola tibuna kiyala kiyaala tiyenne eyala dakapu bawuthika (physical)saadaka walin..

    e tath Kawuda kiyanne Pythagoras buduhamuduruwange samakaleenayek kiyala?

    OptiplexFx said:
    Budu hamuduruwo ee adahas nuth thmange dharmayara ekathu karagaththa wenna puluwan.

    Brother Budu hamuduruwange dharamaya kiyanne budu hamuduruwo thaniwama hadaarala pasak karagaththa dahamak..me wage katha kiyala buddhist kenek welath Buduhamuduruwanta agawurawa karanna epa...


    OptiplexFx said:
    Basic concepts kiwwe Rebirth, Nirvana and Karma wage dewal, oya thuna budu dahame vedagath karunu thunak. Namuth oya thunen ekakwath thawama scientificaly prove karala naa. Mama kiyanne naa ewwata proof nathi nisa boru kiyala, mama kiyanne api danna science walin oppu karala nathi nisa apita hariyatama ewwa aththa kiyala scientifically kiyanna baa kiyana ekai. Scientifically kiyanna barinam science newei. Onna ochcharai mang kiyanne.
    Scientifically oppu karagena nathi1 Buddha daramaye waraddak nemeyne..a nisa eka a wage dewal science nemey kiyala kiyanna ba...waradda tiyenne dan kaale inna scientistlage..eyalata Budu hamuduruwo giya thanata yanna baha..a nisa kaatawath eka science nemey kiyala kiyanna puluwanda?


    eth bro Rebirth kiyana1nan danatamath piliganna aththak...ehema neda?
     
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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    Oya kiyana dewal methanadith hari,

    Garu karana hamoma gaur karanne
    truth awabooda wela nam.

    Truth Awabodha wenna nam
    aduma gaane
    Anapana Sati wath
    thamange uwamanaawen
    PRACTICE
    karala thiyenna ona.
    awankawama machan mata penne uba buddagame danne Anapanasithi bawanawa witarai wage.....ai ban uba kohen giyath enne anapanasathi bawanawatama tamai......eta wada hoda nadda maithri bawanawa karanam.....eka nemei machan apita poddak kiyala denawada anapanasithi bawanawa wedimen labagatha heki prayojana("prayojana"kiyana wachane weradinam sorry...smahara wita eka "dyana" kiyana wachane wennath puluwan)
     

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    coolgayathra said:
    uba monawa kiwwath uba dannawada albert ainstein kiwwa kathawaa
    he told
    if there is any religion in this world which is close to science
    it is budhism[/SIZE]
    I know what Einstein said, he said it’s the best religion of all that can cope with modern science. This is true, because it doesn’t have a divine god nor does it accept the theory of creationism and all that non sense. On top of that it is a very practical religion. But that is not the point. IMO coping up with science doesn’t make it science. One might argue that it does, but I’m just telling my opinion.

    coolgayathra said:

    and y said y did not know that lord buddha did not talk about big band theary
    are y a buddhist?
    uba isskoole giya kale buddhism kale nada?

    grade 10.11 book wala ewa thibuna ubata mathaka nadda?
    About the big bang theory: recent Buddhist scientists and monks are trying to fit some of the high level concepts of buddism to interpret the big bang theory. But it is just an interpretation.

    The interpritation most people point out is the four divisions of time explained in the Anguttara nikaya, Agganna sutta:

    Samvattakappa : in which the universe dissolves,
    Samvattathayikappa : in which the universe remains in a state of emptiness
    Vivattakappa: in which the universe comes in to existence
    Vivattathayikappa : in which the universe remains in a steady state

    These four stages have been interpreted by some to explain the expansion and contraction phases of the BigBang theory, but it is JUST an interpretation and not an explanation. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it says about an expanding universe per se and it doesn't explain the Big bang theory at all. Try to understand the difference between trying to fit some vague ideas into an existing theory and actually explaining it.

    I don't know abhidharma so I could be wrong. If anyone have a better understanding please comment.
     
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    Buddhism, i can say that we dont have proper knowledge to discuss.Even most monks dnt hve total sense of Buddhism do describe to us.Then who can teach us pure Buddhism.If it is , The bloody idiots like OptiplexFx, will never argue about this valuable preaches of Lord Buddha
     
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    DragonD said:
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    Boudda Adahas kiyanwata Bouddayonma Harahata hititinney....maru aadarshayak oyalanam.. Katha karanney bouddayek Katha karana topic Eka boudda darshanaya sambandawa a'kata Againts katha widiyata thread eke replys daanneyth samaanyen Bouddayo.. poddak aadarshamath wenna.. kiyana kenawa balanney nathuwa kiyana dey gana balanna purudu wenna...
     

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    OptiplexFx said:
    I know what Einstein said, he said it’s the best religion of all that can cope with modern science. This is true, because it doesn’t have a divine god nor does it accept the theory of creationism and all that non sense. On top of that it is a very practical religion. But that is not the point. IMO coping up with science doesn’t make it science. One might argue that it does, but I’m just telling my opinion.


    About the big bang theory: recent Buddhist scientists and monks are trying to fit some of the high level concepts of buddism to interpret the big bang theory. But it is just an interpretation.

    The interpritation most people point out is the four divisions of time explained in the Anguttara nikaya, Agganna sutta:

    Samvattakappa : in which the universe dissolves,
    Samvattathayikappa : in which the universe remains in a state of emptiness
    Vivattakappa: in which the universe comes in to existence
    Vivattathayikappa : in which the universe remains in a steady state

    These four stages have been interpreted by some to explain the expansion and contraction phases of the BigBang theory, but it is JUST an interpretation and not an explanation. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it says about an expanding universe per se and it doesn't explain the Big bang theory at all. Try to understand the difference between trying to fit some vague ideas into an existing theory and actually explaining it.

    I don't know abhidharma so I could be wrong. If anyone have a better understanding please comment.

    Pls Read and try to understand What is Buddhism



    Lord Buddha preached: "We will have to find out the cause of sorrow and the way to escape from it. The desire for sensual enjoyment and clinging to earthly life is the cause of sorrow. If we can eradicate desire, all sorrows and pains will come to an end. We will enjoy Nirvana or eternal peace. Those who follow the Noble Eightfold Path strictly, viz., right opinion, right resolve, right speech, right conduct, right employment, right exertion, right thought and right self-concentration will be free from sorrow. This indeed, O mendicants, is that middle course which the Tathagata has thoroughly comprehended, which produces insight, which produces knowledge, which leads to calmness or serenity, to supernatural knowledge, to perfect Buddhahood, to Nirvana.

    "This again, indeed, O mendicants, is the noble truth of suffering. Birth is painful, old age is painful, sickness is painful, association with unloved objects is painful, separation from loved objects is painful, the desire which one does not obtain, this is too painful - in short, the five elements of attachment to existence are painful. The five elements of attachment to earthly existence are form, sensation, perception, components and consciousness.

    "This again, indeed, O mendicants, is the truth of the cause of suffering. It is that thirst which leads to renewed existence, connected with joy and passion, finding joy here and there, namely, thirst for sensual pleasure, and the instinctive thirst for existence. This again, indeed, O mendicants, is the noble truth of cessation of suffering, which is the cessation and total absence of desire for that very thirst, its abandonment, surrender, release from it and non-attachment to it. This again, indeed, O mendicants, is the noble truth of the course which leads to the cessation of suffering. This is verily the Noble Eightfold Path, viz., right opinion, etc."
     
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    machan athula.....mata poddak kiyanawada anapanasathiyen apita labaganna puluwan dyana.......loku udawuwak machan....
     

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    gazaly said:
    Boudda Adahas kiyanwata Bouddayonma Harahata hititinney....maru aadarshayak oyalanam.. Katha karanney bouddayek Katha karana topic Eka boudda darshanaya sambandawa a'kata Againts katha widiyata thread eke replys daanneyth samaanyen Bouddayo.. poddak aadarshamath wenna.. kiyana kenawa balanney nathuwa kiyana dey gana balanna purudu wenna...
    machan meya eyet buddagama gena thread1k demma......eketh kiyala thibune Anapanasithi bawanawa gena......meketh man kiyanawa anapanasathiya gena....mama hithanne man buddagame unata danne "Anapanasathi" kiyana nama witarada koheda........
     

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    thusi02 said:
    Buddhism, i can say that we dont have proper knowledge to discuss.Even most monks dnt hve total sense of Buddhism do describe to us.Then who can teach us pure Buddhism.If it is , The bloody idiots like OptiplexFx, will never argue about this valuable preaches of Lord Buddha
    Mama mukuth explain karanna giyeth naa, mukuth weradi kiwweth naa. mama kiyanne definition ekata anuwa Buddism science ekak newei kiyana eka witharai. Eka therenna nathi kattiyata ithin mata kiyanna deyak naa.
     

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    OptiplexFx said:
    Mama mukuth explain karanna giyeth naa, mukuth weradi kiwweth naa. mama kiyanne definition ekata anuwa Buddism science ekak newei kiyana eka witharai. Eka therenna nathi kattiyata ithin mata kiyanna deyak naa.
    buddism kiyanne science ekakwath agamak wath nemei....darshanyak.....eth a dharshanaye thiyena godak dewal widyanukulawa oppuwela thiyenawa atta bawata..........
     

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    OptiplexFx said:
    Kiyanna balanna oya pareekshana karala thahawuru karapu dewal keepayak.. :confused:
    Mama kiyanne naa Buddhism wala thiyenne boru kiyala, Mamath Buddhist thamai, namuth mama kalin kiwuwa wage bhudism wala basic concepts thawama experiments walin thahawuru karala naa. Issarahata karaida nadda kiyanna mama danne naa. Namuth thawama Buddhism api danna science walin explain karanna bari nisa eka science kiyala kiyanna baa.
    machan mata buddiam wala basics monada kiyanawada?????loku udawuwak....
     

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    thilankat said:
    buddism kiyanne science ekakwath agamak wath nemei....darshanyak.....eth a dharshanaye thiyena godak dewal widyanukulawa oppuwela thiyenawa atta bawata..........
    Eka thamai mamath me kiyanna hadanne, eka science ekak newi kiyana eka ! koheda mokak hari kiwwahama eka waradi ai kiyala explain karanne nathuwa okkoma mage angata kada painawane..
     
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    thilankat said:
    buddism kiyanne science ekakwath agamak wath nemei....darshanyak.....eth a dharshanaye thiyena godak dewal widyanukulawa oppuwela thiyenawa atta bawata..........

    Correct bro.....Buddhism kiyanne Darshanayak...eka Widyaanukoola dardhanayak...( Scientifical philosophy)
    eka nisa thamay scientistla dan ewa monawada kiyala hoyanna try karanne.....
     
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    OptiplexFx said:
    Mama mukuth explain karanna giyeth naa, mukuth weradi kiwweth naa. mama kiyanne definition ekata anuwa Buddism science ekak newei kiyana eka witharai. Eka therenna nathi kattiyata ithin mata kiyanna deyak naa.


    Oya iitn uba karanne explain ekak neweda?.machooooo Definition ekak hari danagann api e de gaburin adhyanaya karanna oni..Specially Buddhagama wage ekak.Nikaan hitata ena paliyata eka scientific naha religion ekak neme kiyala komada api kiyanne.Mama kiyanne anna ekai.ubath terum aran tiyenne waradiyata.e nisa api me gana gaburin danna dawasaka argument ekak damu.habai kawadawath eka karanna bari wei.mokada dannawada apita e widiyata me agama gana igena ganna widiyak na ban...ekai duka tiyenne
     
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    thilankat said:
    machan athula.....mata poddak kiyanawada anapanasathiyen apita labaganna puluwan dyana.......loku udawuwak machan....

    1st 4 dyanas
    But it is not Buddha's method
    if used without Vipassana.
    And one should not focus on dhayana,
    but the purification of mind
    by eradicating defilements.

    Beyond 4th Dhyana is not necessary
    to eradicate suffering.