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<blockquote data-quote="earthling" data-source="post: 3750797" data-attributes="member: 967"><p>No..Jews were living in Palastine from the biblical times, through the Otoman empiare & the first official separation was done in 1920s (after WW1)</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Israel captured the Gaza strip from the retreating Egyptian Army (The Gaza strip was formally held by Egypt..so its nothing more than Spoils of war)..So in theory these Palestinians are fighting for a land which was held by Egypt & ISrael later captured as spoils of war..</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Totaly wrong.. Jews have the right to that land as much as the muslims... Jews built their temples in Jeruselam even before the Muslims did... As I said in the above reply..most marsh lands were bought by Jews in the later Aliyay exoduses...</p><p></p><p>Like to conclude this argument by saying they Both hav equal rights..</p><p></p><p>u hav watched a movie called 'Kingdom of Heaven'.. in it Balian is Defending Jerusalem from the invading Muslim Army of Saladin.. In the City (Jerusalem) both the Muslims & Christians are trapped..He says just before they start the defense of the city, "Muslim holy places lies over the Jewish..& the Jewish Holy places lies over the Muslims...Who has Claim ?..No one has claim..and All HAVE CLAIM !!!.." </p><p></p><p>---------------------------------- History as I know of Israel before WW2---------------------</p><p></p><p>Palastine has been sacred to the Jewish people since the Biblical times. King david build the Temple of Jeruselam..From the exodus of Egypt until the Roman conqured it, it has always benn the state of the Jews.</p><p></p><p>in the 15th centuray it fell to the Otoman empire which was ruled until the 20th centuray & truly fell to the hands of the Muslims (also this is how the british come in to play later)...</p><p></p><p>Yet Jews from Orthodox & later Liberal ones kept on coming to Palastine & settling in mass movements. They were called "Aliyah".</p><p></p><p>After the fall of the Otoman empire & after the end of WW1, the British took control of Palastine with the "British MAndate" which was granted to them by the "League of Nations" (Lets just say this is an eraly version of UN)..THIS IS HOW THE BRITISH ENTERED THE PALASTINE CONFLICT....</p><p></p><p>The Ottoman empire was divided to 2 parts..the West side of the Jordan River was given to the Jews (Israel) & the East side to the Arabs (Trans Jordan later became Jordan)..This mandate was refuced by the USA..they said this is just another ploy for the bigpowers to share the war spoils & trying to force rule by bulling. This is how the US enters the scene. They requested ammendments & finaly the treaty was made with modifications from the Alied conries who were members of LoN & US (even though it was not a mamber)</p><p></p><p>The continuation I have given in the baove reply in brief... some of the facts in this reply I had to find because..some I knew & some I have forgotten...</p><p></p><p>----------------------- correct if I have given any wrong information unknowingly----------</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="earthling, post: 3750797, member: 967"] No..Jews were living in Palastine from the biblical times, through the Otoman empiare & the first official separation was done in 1920s (after WW1) Israel captured the Gaza strip from the retreating Egyptian Army (The Gaza strip was formally held by Egypt..so its nothing more than Spoils of war)..So in theory these Palestinians are fighting for a land which was held by Egypt & ISrael later captured as spoils of war.. Totaly wrong.. Jews have the right to that land as much as the muslims... Jews built their temples in Jeruselam even before the Muslims did... As I said in the above reply..most marsh lands were bought by Jews in the later Aliyay exoduses... Like to conclude this argument by saying they Both hav equal rights.. u hav watched a movie called 'Kingdom of Heaven'.. in it Balian is Defending Jerusalem from the invading Muslim Army of Saladin.. In the City (Jerusalem) both the Muslims & Christians are trapped..He says just before they start the defense of the city, "Muslim holy places lies over the Jewish..& the Jewish Holy places lies over the Muslims...Who has Claim ?..No one has claim..and All HAVE CLAIM !!!.." ---------------------------------- History as I know of Israel before WW2--------------------- Palastine has been sacred to the Jewish people since the Biblical times. King david build the Temple of Jeruselam..From the exodus of Egypt until the Roman conqured it, it has always benn the state of the Jews. in the 15th centuray it fell to the Otoman empire which was ruled until the 20th centuray & truly fell to the hands of the Muslims (also this is how the british come in to play later)... Yet Jews from Orthodox & later Liberal ones kept on coming to Palastine & settling in mass movements. They were called "Aliyah". After the fall of the Otoman empire & after the end of WW1, the British took control of Palastine with the "British MAndate" which was granted to them by the "League of Nations" (Lets just say this is an eraly version of UN)..THIS IS HOW THE BRITISH ENTERED THE PALASTINE CONFLICT.... The Ottoman empire was divided to 2 parts..the West side of the Jordan River was given to the Jews (Israel) & the East side to the Arabs (Trans Jordan later became Jordan)..This mandate was refuced by the USA..they said this is just another ploy for the bigpowers to share the war spoils & trying to force rule by bulling. This is how the US enters the scene. They requested ammendments & finaly the treaty was made with modifications from the Alied conries who were members of LoN & US (even though it was not a mamber) The continuation I have given in the baove reply in brief... some of the facts in this reply I had to find because..some I knew & some I have forgotten... ----------------------- correct if I have given any wrong information unknowingly---------- [/QUOTE]
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