Israel vs Palestine

[RajNOX]

i think there is no need to post any pictures or vidz to let u all realize the real situation in Gaza.

The Israel has killed more than 450 civilians in Gaza telling those are terrorists. And more than 2000 were injured.

This includes many children who are unable to overcome the bombing situations.

Still Israel says they are targeting only Palestine terrorists.

As normal human beings, tell your opinions in this issue..

 

[DJ.Parker]

when people get killed by an official army they state its not terrorism.
killing innocent people cannot be justified

 

[earthling]

True... but theres 2 sides to the story..

we are afcing the same problems here dont we ? if we attack the LLTE..then its always the screams of Civilians attacked & civilien houses destoryed..

its even worse in Palastine because the same civilians who cries bloody murder are the same guys who throw rocks at the Israeli troops & try to kill or injure them when ever they can..how many pics & videos have we seen in tele & news on teenage kids with katapoles, rocks & armed with poles/batons ?

the sad truth is every Palastine hate the Jews guts & the Jews hates the Palatinines in return... Israel is a land built on Hate.. while the Palestinians think that Jews are living in their land..the Jews think that they got this land by spilling their blood & guts so they are fiercely determined to hold it...

the Jews were a race without a Land for so long..got nearly exterminated in the Holocaust....then again put in concentration camps by the british after the war... finally they purchase some land in Plasticine again 2 times the entire Muslim world came to destroy them...yet they held on until the state of Israel was declared in the General UN assembly... even after this the world looked the other way as the might of Muslim world came t destroy them for a second time... they beat it back & still they are here....

Seriously.. if Israel was not there..can u imagine how much trouble the Palestinians will be causing now ? Israel is the watchdog in Palsastine... USA knows this...and most of the non muslim countries knows this too..

 

[DJ.Parker]

True... but theres 2 sides to the story..

we are afcing the same problems here dont we ? if we attack the LLTE..then its always the screams of Civilians attacked & civilien houses destoryed..

its even worse in Palastine because the same civilians who cries bloody murder are the same guys who throw rocks at the Israeli troops & try to kill or injure them when ever they can..how many pics & videos have we seen in tele & news on teenage kids with katapoles, rocks & armed with poles/batons ?

the sad truth is every Palastine hate the Jews guts & the Jews hates the Palatinines in return... Israel is a land built on Hate.. while the Palestinians think that Jews are living in their land..the Jews think that they got this land by spilling their blood & guts so they are fiercely determined to hold it...
the Jews were a race without a Land for so long..got nearly exterminated in the Holocaust....then again put in concentration camps by the british after the war... finally they purchase some land in Plasticine again 2 times the entire Muslim world came to destroy them...yet they held on until the state of Israel was declared in the General UN assembly... even after this the world looked the other way as the might of Muslim world came t destroy them for a second time... they beat it back & still they are here....

Seriously.. if Israel was not there..can u imagine how much trouble the Palestinians will be causing now ? Israel is the watchdog in Palsastine... USA knows this...and most of the non muslim countries knows this too..

1. Its true that civilians who are living over there get hurt.........and people can argue its unavoidable.......but government (in any country) should be able to minimize it.

2. How was Israel born machan? Is it like the india-pakisthan-bangladesh scene?

3. Why would you think palastine would cause trouble if israel is not there?

 

[RajNOX]

True... but theres 2 sides to the story..

we are afcing the same problems here dont we ? if we attack the LLTE..then its always the screams of Civilians attacked & civilien houses destoryed..

yah i accept on this issue..

its even worse in Palastine because the same civilians who cries bloody murder are the same guys who throw rocks at the Israeli troops & try to kill or injure them when ever they can..how many pics & videos have we seen in tele & news on teenage kids with katapoles, rocks & armed with poles/batons ?

when someone comes to you place and through stones to your windows and ur dad says.. ok son u wait here.. i shal go and chk it out. and you see ur dad get hits by those who throw stones.. what would u do.. even if you are small and helpless you sould still hate those men, and try to get the revenge..

the thing is it matters who started it..

the sad truth is every Palastine hate the Jews guts & the Jews hates the Palatinines in return... Israel is a land built on Hate.. while the Palestinians think that Jews are living in their land..the Jews think that they got this land by spilling their blood & guts so they are fiercely determined to hold it...

the Jews were a race without a Land for so long..got nearly exterminated in the Holocaust....then again put in concentration camps by the british after the war... finally they purchase some land in Plasticine again 2 times the entire Muslim world came to destroy them...yet they held on until the state of Israel was declared in the General UN assembly... even after this the world looked the other way as the might of Muslim world came t destroy them for a second time... they beat it back & still they are here....

Do you know how did Israel was born inside palastine land.. go thro the history..

There is no country called palestine until US and UK took the jews after the 2nd world war and giv them rights to stay in palestine.. I dont know how US and UK got those rghts to ask jews to stay in some others place.. but helpless palestine has to accept wht US says.. The jews were told that palestine is jewish country.. and jews has the rights to stay there..

Still there were no problem.. until the egypt and some other countries fought agnst Isreal with Palestine, against this issue.. This war result the Israels to catch the Gaza.. And now this miserable palastines dont fight for israel. They are fighting for that Gaza stripe. Is it wrong??

Just imagine if you giv some space to a stanger to hav a night stay in your place. and in the morningthat stanger fights aganst you asking you to move out frm the house.. and even the big Thug(US) is on his side.. what would be your situation.. isn't this what is happening in Palestine..

Seriously.. if Israel was not there..can u imagine how much trouble the Palestinians will be causing now ? Israel is the watchdog in Palsastine... USA knows this...and most of the non muslim countries knows this too..

I seriously disagree with this...
who the hell is US to put watchdogs over other countries.. Do you say those innecnt people deserve all these things just because US thought so.

you know what happen in india and pakistan.. English knows that India is somday gona be a grt powerful nation. so they made a boundry problem creating pakistan out of india.

And my dear frnd you think thats the problem they gona cause too.. well i think they mite have thought that palestine mite cause a problem to US like they tot about india.


Understand y frnd.. US want to be no 1. for that they mite do anything... Dont get fooled by those a**h***s...

 

[gazaly]

Understand y frnd.. US want to be no 1. for that they mite do anything... Dont get fooled by those a**h***s...

well said brother...this is enough for who gets fooled always by those us f***rs

 

[4keven4]

all the countries around israel hates israel
have u seen the movie
munich in 2005?
those ppl killed isreali innocent athletes fo no reason
simply they jus hate israel
cuz ban israel is the only non muslim country in the middle east area

there r exactly 2 sides ban
children from around age of 8 launches rockets and all to israel .....
girls around 8 comes into israel to be as spies
u jus seeing thru the palestinian side ban
as a matter of fact
most of our army supplies comes from the israel ban
most heavy weapons r from israel
kafir jets, all the hight speed boats and weapons like uzi and weapons that task force usin mp5 r comin thru the israel

 

[gazaly]

all the countries around israel hates israel
have u seen the movie
munich in 2005?
those ppl killed isreali innocent athletes fo no reason
simply they jus hate israel
cuz ban israel is the only non muslim country in the middle east area

there r exactly 2 sides ban
children from around age of 8 launches rockets and all to israel .....
girls around 8 comes into israel to be as spies
u jus seeing thru the palestinian side ban
as a matter of fact
most of our army supplies comes from the israel ban
most heavy weapons r from israel
kafir jets, all the hight speed boats and weapons like uzi and weapons that task force usin mp5 r comin thru the israel

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[earthling]

1. Its true that civilians who are living over there get hurt.........and people can argue its unavoidable.......but government (in any country) should be able to minimize it.

Agreed.. But if Hamaz wants to stop Israel attacking the gaza strip all it has to do is stop attacking Israel with Rockets right... infact thats what the Israel Forign Minister said.."We cant have peace talks while Hamaz continues Rocket attacks at us"...it should work both ways ne ?

2. How was Israel born machan? Is it like the india-pakisthan-bangladesh scene?

Not entirely..but close--- heres the basic view

in the 20s the British divided the Ottoman Palastine to 2 parts..the West side of the Jordan River was given to the Jews (Israel) & the East side to the Arabs (Trans Jordan later became Jordan)..

Then WWII happened.. Jews were hunted around the world, put in to concentration camps..then 6 million of them were slaughted... after the end of the war the world didnt know what to do with the Jewish problem... all were scattered around the world & many have lost their loved one...so the british again put them in camps..

Slowly rich Americans started buying marsh lands of the borders of the already jewish state of the western edge of Jordan.. THEY BOUGHT LANDS OFF THE RESIDING PALESTINIANS..most were marsh lands where the Palestinians have given up as useless.. Then groups operating around the world trying to get the scattered devastated Jews to one land (groups like Mossad-Aliya-Bet) started sending them from concentration camps of the British (even falling to hunger strikes for release of the refugees)..

They hired ships & planes started bringing Jews from everywhere..made camps & started cultivation… all the marsh lands they bought, they cultivated..and started farming & built communities… Now the Palestinians started to get angry… the marsh lands they sold were being cultivated & more Jews were coming to Palestine…. Still there were British Garrisons in Palastine to keep the Arabs from completely massacering the Jews.. But then in 47 the British troops withdrew leaving the Jews at the mercy of the Arabs… The Jews had no army yet & they had to defend with what they got & to stop getting massacred for the second time…

6 Day War
In 48 in the General Assembly recognized Israel as the state of the Jews… The entire arab world screamed bloody murder. Armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Iraq invaded Israel swearing to wipe them out. The Israelites were out numbered 10-1..Women & Children jumped on Arab tanks wearing bombs in Jerusalem. After months of fighting, the Arab Armies were beaten back. The retreating Egypt Army took a small strip of land along the coast which later became the ‘Gaza Strip’

Then again in 68 Egypt expelled the UN peace keepers from the Gaza strip and went to war with Israel by forcing a blockade. Again Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria Armies mobilized wowing to destroy Israel and kill every Jew. Again the rest of the world looked away. Again Israel was out numbered 10-1..And again the Israelis won. The war just lasted 6 days… they completely destroyed all the armies & won the war in 6 days & took back new territories Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, the West Bank, and the Golan Heights.
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enough for now ne ? ithuruwa passata ..... If I hav made any factual mistakes, open for correction (didnt copy paste from the net..so mistakes can happen)

3. Why would you think palastine would cause trouble if Israel is not there?

The amount of Terrorism that would come from Palatine if not kept under check..unlike the Middle East Palatines is not rich right ? So the Islamic Militant groups would run amok..at least they have a source to direct their anger at :Israel"..because of this the rest of the world atleast can live in peace without getting bothered from the terrorists in Palstine..THIS IS JUST MU VIEW

 

[gayancc]

we cant do anythin

 

[earthling]

Do you know how did Israel was born inside palastine land.. go thro the history..

There is no country called palestine until US and UK took the jews after the 2nd world war and giv them rights to stay in palestine.. I dont know how US and UK got those rghts to ask jews to stay in some others place.. but helpless palestine has to accept wht US says.. The jews were told that palestine is jewish country.. and jews has the rights to stay there..

No..Jews were living in Palastine from the biblical times, through the Otoman empiare & the first official separation was done in 1920s (after WW1)

Still there were no problem.. until the egypt and some other countries fought agnst Isreal with Palestine, against this issue.. This war result the Israels to catch the Gaza.. And now this miserable palastines dont fight for israel. They are fighting for that Gaza stripe. Is it wrong??

Israel captured the Gaza strip from the retreating Egyptian Army (The Gaza strip was formally held by Egypt..so its nothing more than Spoils of war)..So in theory these Palestinians are fighting for a land which was held by Egypt & ISrael later captured as spoils of war..

Just imagine if you giv some space to a stanger to hav a night stay in your place. and in the morningthat stanger fights aganst you asking you to move out frm the house.. and even the big Thug(US) is on his side.. what would be your situation.. isn't this what is happening in Palestine..

Totaly wrong.. Jews have the right to that land as much as the muslims... Jews built their temples in Jeruselam even before the Muslims did... As I said in the above reply..most marsh lands were bought by Jews in the later Aliyay exoduses...

Like to conclude this argument by saying they Both hav equal rights..

u hav watched a movie called 'Kingdom of Heaven'.. in it Balian is Defending Jerusalem from the invading Muslim Army of Saladin.. In the City (Jerusalem) both the Muslims & Christians are trapped..He says just before they start the defense of the city, "Muslim holy places lies over the Jewish..& the Jewish Holy places lies over the Muslims...Who has Claim ?..No one has claim..and All HAVE CLAIM !!!.."

---------------------------------- History as I know of Israel before WW2---------------------

Palastine has been sacred to the Jewish people since the Biblical times. King david build the Temple of Jeruselam..From the exodus of Egypt until the Roman conqured it, it has always benn the state of the Jews.

in the 15th centuray it fell to the Otoman empire which was ruled until the 20th centuray & truly fell to the hands of the Muslims (also this is how the british come in to play later)...

Yet Jews from Orthodox & later Liberal ones kept on coming to Palastine & settling in mass movements. They were called "Aliyah".

After the fall of the Otoman empire & after the end of WW1, the British took control of Palastine with the "British MAndate" which was granted to them by the "League of Nations" (Lets just say this is an eraly version of UN)..THIS IS HOW THE BRITISH ENTERED THE PALASTINE CONFLICT....

The Ottoman empire was divided to 2 parts..the West side of the Jordan River was given to the Jews (Israel) & the East side to the Arabs (Trans Jordan later became Jordan)..This mandate was refuced by the USA..they said this is just another ploy for the bigpowers to share the war spoils & trying to force rule by bulling. This is how the US enters the scene. They requested ammendments & finaly the treaty was made with modifications from the Alied conries who were members of LoN & US (even though it was not a mamber)

The continuation I have given in the baove reply in brief... some of the facts in this reply I had to find because..some I knew & some I have forgotten...

----------------------- correct if I have given any wrong information unknowingly----------