KFC.... is Haram!

[RajNOX]

Hee Hee. Once again that silly mistake of thinking Buddha = Prince Siddhartha

then are they are to human beings???

 

[RajNOX]

You can eat a dead animal.

yah of coz.. the problem is death... how it happens... if a animal is dead by nature... is it acceptable to eat.. will you eat a dead chicken if its death was by nature...

 

[RajNOX]

You think that I am piss poor in taking up ypur arguments? Here is the other side of the story.

Because there are more psychotic patients using antipsychotics, the pharmaceutical company (PC) has to produce more. Only problem is thet PC is not doing something direct like a butcher. So how is the normal users of antipsychotics (intention is to cure themselves) held liable for the deaths (ntention of suicide)? Now I like to see your stand on this.

yah you are correct.. how can the one producing the medicine can be liable.. the one who kills himself is liable.. so the killer is liable for killing himself.. so if a chicken kills its self then you are not liable.

i think you dnt understand what i said...

just go through it... (i hav quated it for your ease)

the producers of the goods doesnt make sin... the consumer is the one who is liable... in your meat scenario, the concumer is you.. and the producer is the one who kills... chootak dan therila wage...

liable concumer : the one who kills himself
producer : who produces medicine
other concumers : who take it for curing purpose.. (who doesnt hav any roll in this issue at all)

the production increase by all concumers (including the one who kills himself and the one who take it for curing..) so doesnt the increment is done behalf of the liable concumer too... think hard..

man hithuwa waradida manda.. oyata therum ganna puluwan kamak na wage ne

 

[RajNOX]

Buddhism was not to change culture, but to change person.

by telling hav sex if your not married and if both parties are in an acceptable manner..

Islam on other hand destroyed cultures.

yah.. by telling dont have sex before marriage

Buddhism is to change people within them selves, not by laws that work from outside as in Islam.

he he.. better put thinking ideas in SL law.. without giving punishments by law (cmon SL is a buddist country.. we shall do it in the budist way )

just think how will you feel if your sister goes out with somone spend a night with a guy.. will you say.. cmon.. its all in the game.. we all are buddist.. and its a simple thing.. (no intention of hurting you personally.. i dont have anyother gud example..)

Ex. If you don't believe Allah, you'll be in hell
If you want to achieve nirvana you may follow Buddhism

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what if i say
If you don't follow Buddism, you'll never achive nirvana.
If you want to achieve heven you may follow islam..
simple language voice change..

 

[gazaly]

Ex. If you don't believe Allah, you'll be in hell
If you want to achieve nirvana you may follow Buddhism

Machan Wal Bada mata kiyanna puluwanda Kenek Niwan dakinn bari wenawa kiyala Kiyanney monawada kiyala..

 

[Wal Bada]

he he.. better put thinking ideas in SL law.. without giving punishments by law (cmon SL is a buddist country.. we shall do it in the budist way )

just think how will you feel if your sister goes out with somone spend a night with a guy.. will you say.. cmon.. its all in the game.. we all are buddist.. and its a simple thing.. (no intention of hurting you personally.. i dont have anyother gud example..)

Once again poor argument. Buddhism does not oppose for a country to have a penal code, or a judisry system. Those offences can be punished according to the country's law. Your point is moot here.

If my sister goes out with a man (provided she's above 16), I can only advice her sccording to Buddhism. I could not punish them, because it is not my business. If that man has used force to get consent, SL law is there for punish that man.

In islam what you do? You honor kill your sister! See the difference!

 

[Wal Bada]

Machan Wal Bada mata kiyanna puluwanda Kenek Niwan dakinn bari wenawa kiyala Kiyanney monawada kiyala..

That means you'll have birth after birth after this life to go through same sorrows of birth, ageging, death, disease, detachment from loved ones, being with disliked once and sorrow of change.

If you have done lot of good karma during the life, you'll be born in a good place (Ex. in one of six heavens, world of Brahmans or as a human) and will have another chance to hear and practice Dhamma (teachings of Buddha). And if you have done bad things, you'll be born as a beast, prethas or in one of four hells.

If a person has done one of the five below things, he could not achieve even the first stage of understanding of Dhamma, "sowan" stage.

1. Killing of father
2. Killing of mother
3. Killin of Arhats
4. Wounding Buddha
5. Seperating Sangha in to groups using various means (Sangha Bheda)

 

[gazaly]

That means you'll have birth after birth after this life to go through same sorrows of birth, ageging, death, disease, detachment from loved ones, being with disliked once and sorrow of change.

If you have done lot of good karma during the life, you'll be born in a good place (Ex. in one of six heavens, world of Brahmans or as a human) and will have another chance to hear and practice Dhamma (teachings of Buddha). And if you have done bad things, you'll be born as a beast, prethas or in one of four hells.

If a person has done one of the five below things, he could not achieve even the first stage of understanding of Dhamma, "sowan" stage.

1. Killing of father
2. Killing of mother
3. Killin of Arhats
4. Wounding Buddha
5. Seperating Sangha in to groups using various means (Sangha Bheda)

ok... thx for the info...

 

[x-pert]

If you want to achieve nirvana you may follow Buddhism

Machan Wal Bada mata kiyanna puluwanda Kenek Niwan dakinn bari wenawa kiyala Kiyanney monawada kiyala..

That means you'll have birth after birth after this life to go through same sorrows of birth, ageging, death, disease, detachment from loved ones, being with disliked once and sorrow of change.

If you have done lot of good karma during the life, you'll be born in a good place (Ex. in one of six heavens, world of Brahmans or as a human) and will have another chance to hear and practice Dhamma (teachings of Buddha). And if you have done bad things, you'll be born as a beast, prethas or in one of four hells.

If a person has done one of the five below things, he could not achieve even the first stage of understanding of Dhamma, "sowan" stage.

1. Killing of father
2. Killing of mother
3. Killin of Arhats
4. Wounding Buddha
5. Seperating Sangha in to groups using various means (Sangha Bheda)

Which essentially means that, in general terms...
If you don't do bad things such as killing, and if you do good things throughout your life... You will achieve a better place after you die. Isn't it?

I guess it is the case with all religions!

The only difference is people have pasted different labels and try to find the weak points of those different labels... But if we go further down the line, the ultimate result is achieving a better place after death, by doing good deeds when you're alive, and following the teachings of a religious leader.

 

[Wal Bada]

Which essentially means that, in general terms...
If you don't do bad things such as killing, and if you do good things throughout your life... You will achieve a better place after you die. Isn't it?

I guess it is the case with all religions!

The only difference is people have pasted different labels and try to find the weak points of those different labels... But if we go further down the line, the ultimate result is achieving a better place after death, by doing good deeds when you're alive, and following the teachings of a religious leader.

No it's not. Purpose is totally different n Buddhism. In Buddhism aim is to get rid of all sorrows. That is not equivalent to having all the pleasures of life, which will be achieved with union of the god.

In Buddhism, if you do good things craving that you'll be born in a good place and to have all the pleasures, you are sinning your self.

 

[x-pert]

No it's not. Purpose is totally different n Buddhism. In Buddhism aim is to get rid of all sorrows. That is not equivalent to having all the pleasures of life, which will be achieved with union of the god..

Glass is half full = Glass is half empty;

Getting rid of all sorrows = Life with no sorrows = Life with pleasure
?

I'm not commenting about the union of god. Different people, cultures, religions do have different opinions about the concept called "god" and I'm human so I don't know anything about it But I do respect their opinions.

In Buddhism, if you do good things craving that you'll be born in a good place and to have all the pleasures, you are sinning your self.

True, but only a very few people are hoping to born again in this world...
Most of them are trying to achieve something better than living in this physical world irrespective of the religion I guess.

That's where the religious teachings contradict with the reality I guess.

 

[Wal Bada]

Glass is half full = Glass is half empty;

Getting rid of all sorrows = Life with no sorrows = Life with pleasure
?

Classic christian_jewish thinking or Newtonian thinking. In Oriental knowledge base half open door is not equal to the door is half closed. They symbolicaly means two things. Don't get your match in to defining these, because Euclidian math is Chistian-Jewish! (3 angles of a triangle add to 180 until 15th century. But Chinese new a way to draw it on a curved surface so the sum gets more than 180, 2500 years back!). Half open door denotes an opportunity, half closed dooor denotes a stumbling block. Hence freedom of all sorrow <> having all the pleasure in the world.

True, but only a very few people are hoping to born again in this world...
Most of them are trying to achieve something better than living in this physical world irrespective of the religion I guess.

That's where the religious teachings contradict with the reality I guess.

That happens due to not understanding Buddhism, when talking in that respect. Buddhist should try to attain atleast Sowan state in this life so they will never born again in hell, and they sunseuently attain Nirvana in their 8th birth. If they have done it with the intention of attaining Sowan state, if the person was not able to do it in this life, he would be born in a place where there is access to Dhamma, so giving another opportunity to attain it.

 

[x-pert]

Classic christian_jewish thinking or Newtonian thinking. In Oriental knowledge base half open door is not equal to the door is half closed. They symbolicaly means two things. Don't get your match in to defining these, because Euclidian math is Chistian-Jewish! (3 angles of a triangle add to 180 until 15th century. But Chinese new a way to draw it on a curved surface so the sum gets more than 180, 2500 years back!). Half open door denotes an opportunity, half closed dooor denotes a stumbling block. Hence freedom of all sorrow <> having all the pleasure in the world.

That happens due to not understanding Buddhism, when talking in that respect. Buddhist should try to attain atleast Sowan state in this life so they will never born again in hell, and they sunseuently attain Nirvana in their 8th birth. If they have done it with the intention of attaining Sowan state, if the person was not able to do it in this life, he would be born in a place where there is access to Dhamma, so giving another opportunity to attain it.

I'll take the 1st part as a good argument and the 2nd bit as the reality

 

[ChuttaFX]

Which essentially means that, in general terms...
If you don't do bad things such as killing, and if you do good things throughout your life... You will achieve a better place after you die. Isn't it?

I guess it is the case with all religions!

The only difference is people have pasted different labels and try to find the weak points of those different labels... But if we go further down the line, the ultimate result is achieving a better place after death, by doing good deeds when you're alive, and following the teachings of a religious leader.

But why should we wait till we die? Buddha has said that we don't have to wait till our death. Doing good thing has real time results

So if every other religions says that we have to wait till we die. that's different of Buddhism. But that's not the only difference.

There're some other differences,

1.The place we achieve is controlled by our mind. A person who have often done good things may go to the hell after his death for some reasons according to some concepts in Buddhism. However our main objective as a Buddhist must be to stop suffering by stooping rebirth.

2.And main concept of Buddhism is,
"Everything effect has a cause. This cause is the reason for this effect to be
So if there is no cause, then there isn't a effect"
"Suffering is a effect. So it has a cause. This cause is the reason for suffering
So if there is no cause, then there is no suffering"

3.Buddha is human who discovered a way to stop suffering. So everyone can be a Buddha. And Buddha has some special human powers.

Anyway I can accept every religion teach, help & force people to be good. But the truth is that people fight for their religions. But these people don't follow their religion. That's why they like to fight!

 

[x-pert]

But why should we wait till we die? Buddha has said that we don't have to wait till our death. Doing good thing has real time results

Irrespective of the religion you will get good results if you do good deeds. That's my point machang. You don't need to be a Buddhist, Muslim or a Christian to get them. e.g. If you feed a hungry dog, he will be there always on your side loving you. And if you kill a man, you will suffer by thinking about it all the time. Do you really need a religious leader to teach that?

So if every other religions says that we have to wait till we die. that's different of Buddhism. But that's not the only difference.

Well that's the very end result. But, Dittadammawedaniya karmaya is there in every religion under different names/ concepts.

There're some other differences,

1.The place we achieve is controlled by our mind. A person who have often done good things may go to the hell after his death for some reasons according to some concepts in Buddhism. However our main objective as a Buddhist must be to stop suffering by stooping rebirth.

There you go. So the end result is focusing on after life. Which is the same concept irrespective of the religion.

Controlling by the mind in Buddhism, they say, Siyallatama mul wenne sithayi.. Christians do have the 10 commandments to control their mind. Islam do have the real Jihad to control their mind. So again, it's the same irrespective of the religion.

2.And main concept of Buddhism is,
"Everything effect has a cause. This cause is the reason for this effect to be
So if there is no cause, then there isn't a effect"
"Suffering is a effect. So it has a cause. This cause is the reason for suffering
So if there is no cause, then there is no suffering"

That's a Newton's theory.

3.Buddha is human who discovered a way to stop suffering. So everyone can be a Buddha. And Buddha has some special human powers.

Jesus, Nabi are also normal human. Yes, Everyone can become a Jesus. Everyone can become a Nabi. I'm not sure about Nabi, but Jesus had some special abilities too.

Anyway I can accept every religion teach, help & force people to be good. But the truth is that people fight for their religions. But these people don't follow their religion. That's why they like to fight!

People should fight for their religion, their belief, their country. Which is a universal fact.

But the thing is, some people try to point out that their religion is the greatest religion in the world. Which is wrong. No religion is the greatest. Every religion has the same status. At least for me So we should respect all the religions without trying to find the weak points of those lables. Because we didn't choose our religion in the first place. Almost all have got their religion by their birth. Automatically their mother's and/ or father's religion becoms your religion. Only a very few lucky ones try to learn all religions and try to choose what is most suitable for them.

Again I'm telling.... The only difference in Buddhism is that it doesn't "order" people to do things. Buddha said, thamunge buddhiyen wichaaraya karala balala, hariyi kiyala hithenawa nam karanna kiyala. That's because Buddhism is not a 'religion'. It's a 'philosophy'. That's the only difference in Buddhism.

So, there's no harm in a Christian person following Buddhist teachings, or a Muslim person following Buddhist teachings.

 

[ChuttaFX]

Irrespective of the religion you will get good results if you do good deeds. That's my point machang. You don't need to be a Buddhist, Muslim or a Christian to get them. e.g. If you feed a hungry dog, he will be there always on your side loving you. And if you kill a man, you will suffer by thinking about it all the time. Do you really need a religious leader to teach that?

We don't need a religious leader to teach this. Kind people already do this.

Buddha has said people don't do wrong thing because of three reasons.

1. Lokadipathya - Some people are afraid that other insult them if they do bad things. And they thinks other may harm him if they done bad things. And they afraid to do if something is Sin accoding their religeon.

2. Aththadipathya - Some people thinks that doing bad thing is not good for their respect.

3. Dammadipathya - Some people are kind. They thinks that others also don't like to be harmed like they do. So they don't harm others.

Buddha said "no matter the reason, if people don't do bad things". But 3rd reason is appreciated.

Well that's the very end result. But, Dittadammawedaniya karmaya is there in every religion under different names/ concepts.

I know "karma" has already discovered.
In Buddhism, there are 5 factors that can be a reason for something.

1. Utu Niyama - so-called law of the seasons. E.g. if you travel to Canada during Winter, you feel cold not because of Karma, but because of the weather.

2. Bija Niyama - law of the "seeds". This explains certain resemblance within a family.

3. Karma or Kamma Niyama - People gets results according what they've done.

4. Dharma or Dhamma Niyama - Phusical laws. E.g we are not floating around due to laws of gravity. This also explains why we weighs 6 times lighter on the moon.

5. Citta Niyama - Law of the mind, e.g. pyschic energy etc.

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There you go. So the end result is focusing on after life. Which is the same concept irrespective of the religion.

Controlling by the mind in Buddhism, they say, Siyallatama mul wenne sithayi.. Christians do have the 10 commandments to control their mind. Islam do have the real Jihad to control their mind. So again, it's the same irrespective of the religion.

I've heard about them from a one of cousins who is a Christian.

According to Buddhism, if someone don't want to stop rebirth, but he'd like to live in a heaven, Then he can live a normal life controlling his mind & doing good things as all religion teaches to. So I can accept Buddhism is like other religions in this way. That's my way in these days.

But if someone want to stop rebirth & suffering forever then he has to clean up his mind. After cleaning up there can't be anything bad in his mind. That's not easy we can control our mind for few minutes but hard to remove all the bad in the mind forever. I'll switch to this way later.

That's a Newton's theory.

I saw only physical side of this theory. anyway I also a greatest scientist. I hope that one day He can be a Buddha.

Jesus, Nabi are also normal human. Yes, Everyone can become a Jesus. Everyone can become a Nabi. I'm not sure about Nabi, but Jesus had some special abilities too.

Yes. I heard that Jesus had some special abilities such as healing. And these days there are some people who has special abilities. Someone who haven't bought special powers from his previous life can get special human abilities by doing some samadi-meditations. samadi-meditations was already discoved before Buddha. Buddha discovered vidarshana-meditations what helps to remove all the bad in the mind forever. Even I accept u, I didn't mean that Buddha is messanger.

People should fight for their religion, their belief, their country. Which is a universal fact.

I can't accept this completely. But I feel sometimes I do so.

But the thing is, some people try to point out that their religion is the greatest religion in the world. Which is wrong. No religion is the greatest. Every religion has the same status. At least for me So we should respect all the religions without trying to find the weak points of those lables. Because we didn't choose our religion in the first place. Almost all have got their religion by their birth. Automatically their mother's and/ or father's religion becoms your religion. Only a very few lucky ones try to learn all religions and try to choose what is most suitable for them.

Again I'm telling.... The only difference in Buddhism is that it doesn't "order" people to do things. Buddha said, thamunge buddhiyen wichaaraya karala balala, hariyi kiyala hithenawa nam karanna kiyala. That's because Buddhism is not a 'religion'. It's a 'philosophy'. That's the only difference in Buddhism.

So, there's no harm in a Christian person following Buddhist teachings, or a Muslim person following Buddhist teachings.

Religious part of Buddhism is like every other religeons. Other part is not so coz this part is not religious. It teaches to stop suffering. But a religeon teaches to be good. So Christianity, Islam and religious part of Buddhism is the same. Everything teach to be good. So I can follow Christianity or Islam and religious part of Buddhism with other part of Buddhism. And that's my way. There are many things we can learn from articles of sirajstc. Even we're not islamic people. However I don't beleive "Creator concept" in any religion.

 

[sirajstc]

, Islam and religious part of Buddhism is the same. Everything teach to be good. So I can follow Christianity or Islam and religious part of Buddhism with other part of Buddhism. And that's my way. There are many things we can learn from articles of sirajstc. Even we're not islamic people.

ohh brother nice to hear tat its ur post make me happy

 

[x-pert]

We don't need a religious leader to teach this. Kind people already do this.

Buddha has said people don't do wrong thing because of three reasons.

1. Lokadipathya - Some people are afraid that other insult them if they do bad things. And they thinks other may harm him if they done bad things. And they afraid to do if something is Sin accoding their religeon.

2. Aththadipathya - Some people thinks that doing bad thing is not good for their respect.

3. Dammadipathya - Some people are kind. They thinks that others also don't like to be harmed like they do. So they don't harm others.

Buddha said "no matter the reason, if people don't do bad things". But 3rd reason is appreciated.



I know "karma" has already discovered.
In Buddhism, there are 5 factors that can be a reason for something.

1. Utu Niyama - so-called law of the seasons. E.g. if you travel to Canada during Winter, you feel cold not because of Karma, but because of the weather.

2. Bija Niyama - law of the "seeds". This explains certain resemblance within a family.

3. Karma or Kamma Niyama - People gets results according what they've done.

4. Dharma or Dhamma Niyama - Phusical laws. E.g we are not floating around due to laws of gravity. This also explains why we weighs 6 times lighter on the moon.

5. Citta Niyama - Law of the mind, e.g. pyschic energy etc.

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I've heard about them from a one of cousins who is a Christian.

According to Buddhism, if someone don't want to stop rebirth, but he'd like to live in a heaven, Then he can live a normal life controlling his mind & doing good things as all religion teaches to. So I can accept Buddhism is like other religions in this way. That's my way in these days.

But if someone want to stop rebirth & suffering forever then he has to clean up his mind. After cleaning up there can't be anything bad in his mind. That's not easy we can control our mind for few minutes but hard to remove all the bad in the mind forever. I'll switch to this way later.


I saw only physical side of this theory. anyway I also a greatest scientist. I hope that one day He can be a Buddha.




Yes. I heard that Jesus had some special abilities such as healing. And these days there are some people who has special abilities. Someone who haven't bought special powers from his previous life can get special human abilities by doing some samadi-meditations. samadi-meditations was already discoved before Buddha. Buddha discovered vidarshana-meditations what helps to remove all the bad in the mind forever. Even I accept u, I didn't mean that Buddha is messanger.


I can't accept this completely. But I feel sometimes I do so.



Religious part of Buddhism is like every other religeons. Other part is not so coz this part is not religious. It teaches to stop suffering. But a religeon teaches to be good. So Christianity, Islam and religious part of Buddhism is the same. Everything teach to be good. So I can follow Christianity or Islam and religious part of Buddhism with other part of Buddhism. And that's my way. There are many things we can learn from articles of sirajstc. Even we're not islamic people. However I don't beleive "Creator concept" in any religion.

Good man You have a good brain to think properly.

Yes, We all do have many things to learn from each other. And discard what you don't believe according to your brain But don't tell them to others... Because they may have a different point of view about thing and their belief may be different from ours.

Ah about Siraj. Yes, he is a good Muslim. No doubt about that.
But Sometimes he forgets that he is a 'human' living in 'Sri Lanka' though

 

[ChuttaFX]

Good man You have a good brain to think properly.

Yes, We all do have many things to learn from each other. And discard what you don't believe according to your brain But don't tell them to others... Because they may have a different point of view about thing and their belief may be different from ours.

Ah about Siraj. Yes, he is a good Muslim. No doubt about that.
But Sometimes he forgets that he is a 'human' living in 'Sri Lanka' though

Thanx

But don't tell them to others... Because they may have a different point of view about thing and their belief may be different from ours.

Of cause When I was child thought that everyone was like me. So I was suppressed when others didn't agree with me. But later, I could realize that everyone isn't like me. However, sometimes I tell my ideas to other coz I wanna how they think of mine. Will it be problematic?

 

[Kasmadumala]

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