kill non-believers wherever they find them...!!

gazaly

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Why are there verses in the Qur’an that encourage Muslims to kill non-believers wherever they find them?
The Importance of Context

The word ‘context’ has two dictionary meanings:
1. The parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect. 2. The set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.

Any discussion on Qur’anic verses that refer to violence would be meaningless, without a study of the surrounding context. Before we study the verses in question, therefore, let us examine this issue in a wider perspective:

The Sanctity of Life

The Glorious Qur’an says:
“…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.” [Al-Qur’an 6:151]

Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live. The Glorious Qur’an says:
“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.” [Al-Qur’an 5:32]

The value of human life is so great, that the Qur’an equates the taking of even one human life unjustly with the killing of all humanity.

The Verses of War

The words that often cause consternation among those unfamiliar with Islam, are: “…and slay them wherever ye catch them…”

The truth is that this is only part of verse 191 of Chapter 2 of the Qur’an. Let us read the verses 190 to 191 in order to get a complete picture:

“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.” [Al-Qur’an 2:190-191]

It is a well-known fact of Islamic history, that fighting against aggressors was prohibited during the first thirteen years of the Prophet’s mission. After Muslims migrated to Medina, the verses above were revealed to enable the community to fight in self-defense. The verses that follow clearly indicate Islam’s prohibition on aggression and inclination towards peace:

“But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.” [Al-Qur’an 2:192-193]

The verses above specifically refer to fighting against oppression and in defense of religious freedom as the Glorious Qur’an says:
“Let there be no compulsion in religion” [Al-Qur’an 2:256]

Fair-Dealing Towards All

When read in context, the above verses do not even remotely suggest an exhortation for Muslims to be vicious or hateful towards people of other faiths. Far from this, the Qur’an actually requires that Muslims conduct themselves with fairness and dignity in all matters, and especially in regard to interfaith relations, as indicated by the following verse:

“Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just." [Al-Qur’an 60:8]
 

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Better not commenting about this :)

All these holy books were written by extremists who tried to control their people in the name of God and make them live in fear...
That was the only objective. These are just dogmas...whatever


Anyway, thanks for the post.
 

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The problem with Quran and most other religious texts is the way they are written (vague phrases that have no meaning on their own ), and how one go about interpreting them. If you take verses 190 to 191, it starts with "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you", this can be easily taken as fight those who does not believe in Allah (non believers). More often than not, extremists tend to interpret it that way.

All these holy books were written by extremists who tried to control their people in the name of God and make them live in fear...

Yes.

And these old texts have no real use in the modern world. They only lead to chaos and confusion. Science and technology provide us the basic understanding of the world around us, and the necessary tools to carry out our daily activities (I know science is not complete, but it makes far more sense than religion). Rational thinking, ethics and morals will give us a value system to govern the society (Even though ethics and morals have some ties with religion, they can stand on their own; a good example is the legal and justice system).

The bottom line : We don't need a religion anymore.
 

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The problem with Quran and most other religious texts is the way they are written (vague phrases that have no meaning on their own ), and how one go about interpreting them. If you take verses 190 to 191, it starts with "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you", this can be easily taken as fight those who does not believe in Allah (non believers). More often than not, extremists tend to interpret it that way.

EXACTLY!





And these old texts have no real use in the modern world. They only lead to chaos and confusion. Science and technology provide us the basic understanding of the world around us, and the necessary tools to carry out our daily activities (I know science is not complete, but it makes far more sense than religion). Rational thinking, ethics and morals will give us a value system to govern the society (Even though ethics and morals have some ties with religion, they can stand on their own; a good example is the legal and justice system).

The bottom line : We don't need a religion anymore.


We should clarify this. Based on the behaviour of this society, we should be aware that a world would be an anarchy without a religion. The problem is not in a specific religion, but on the people who follow that.

A religion should teach people to live in a civil, peaceful and spiritual way in this world.

Human beings aren't at the same level. There are more developed ones and less. More influecable and sensitive ones and less ones.

The only religion which is not a dogma is buddhism, the others are only Dogmas which block human beings' souls' evolution. This is a kinda complicated argument:oo:
 

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The only religion which is not a dogma is buddhism, the others are only Dogmas which block human beings' souls' evolution. This is a kinda complicated argument:oo:
All these holy books were written by extremists who tried to control their people in the name of God and make them live in fear...
That was the only objective. These are just dogmas...whatever

wow what a Statements, honouring your religion and abusing other religion without any proof and search.I think your are saying about buddah's book as they are written by budha and may be written by extremists who tried to control their people in the name of God and make them live in fear...


 

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wow what a Statements, honouring your religion and abusing other religion without any proof and search.I think your are saying about buddah's book as they are written by budha and may be written by extremists who tried to control their people in the name of God and make them live in fear...




hehe..excuse me brother, but TRY TO GET WHAT I SAY BEFORE REPLYING IN A DUMB WAY ... thank you


Tell me whether you know the meaning of "DOGMA".
Most of the religions are dogmas, because they force people to believe in the verses written on a holy book and to follow those without accusations.


I have clearly told that buddhism is NOT A DOGMA.
Because the difference is that it clearly says "BELIEVE NOTHING, NO MATTER WHERE YOU READ IT OR WHO SAID IT. NO MATTER IF I HAVE SAID IT, UNLESS IT AGREES WITH YOUR OWN COMMON SENSE AND REASON"

Buddhism does not force a person to believe in ANYTHING. u got me???

I do respect Lord Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad; but I'm totally against holy books written by extremists who only try to block our souls' evolution and don't let us think on our own.

We are not puppets of anyone or anything!! we must have the freedom to think using our own brains, because we are gifted by that.

CLARIFIED?
 

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Well Its Really Hard To Let This Post Pass.... :-) :)

I Believe gazzly has posted his own veiw / He Extracted It from Somewhere...

I'm a christian and Im proud to be a christian and im glad that I was born christian....
Also in the same context I believe all of you born to a Buddhist family or any other religious background would have its influence...

Also It is you who decide what your religion should be... ...It doesn't matter what background your born to.....

But we should never point our finger and say other religions are wrong and they teach absolute crap etc etc.... Its not ethical...

Just by quoting a verse from any other holy script it doesn't prove anything...
Especially at a time of victory...we should be united as one...no matter what religion we're in....

Thats my thought...

United we stand....Divided we fall...


Ai Ai People...
Cheers...

:love::love::love::love:
 

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An I am christian, not buddhist.
I was baptized. But I have the courage to make a decision on my own.

Dear who have told you that islam is dogmas religion, this is the problem in us that we don't search personaly and believe on the other people propeganda.You r not true in your claim that I do respect Lord Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad; and ""Believe nothing,
unless it agrees with your own
reason and your own common sense". i invite you to search islam not through reading the book of people who are against islam but real muslim books.


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Dear who have told you that islam is dogmas religion, this is the problem in us that we don't search personaly and believe on the other people propeganda.You r not true in your claim that I do respect Lord Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad; and ""Believe nothing,
unless it agrees with your own
reason and your own common sense". i invite you to search islam not through reading the book of people who are against islam but real muslim books.


how do you know that somebody told her that islam is a dogmas religion
how do you know that she doesn't search personally:eek: