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he he:lol:

dont get into fantasy man..


face the real combats...

how many real fightings you have engadged in?besides the your kungfu class spearings...:)

dont tell me about the kungfu competitions..I,m asking about the real fights..with blood and broken bones....;)

interesting topic..But we never agree on the technical superiority of so-called Wing-chun style...:no: :) :)

gud luck with your practice bro:)
 
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heard that prasnna jayaweera also coaching to SL army Special forces :dull: ..

but wingchun style has much limitations..So the SFs are also trained to full contact versions of the Karate...

The most powerful kicks are originating from the "bound spring physics principle"..So most Taekwondo and karate or shorinji kenpo kicks are very power full:)


yes machan, Our loku teacher is coaching to all three forces + MP

Macho I think you have miss lead by some one or a coach.

AFAIK wingchun is the Martial art that has No limitations unlike others.
Karate is also good bt my opinion is it is not as gr8 as wingchun when it comes to street fighting. Keep in your mind that karate is also originated frm Southern Chinese martial arts.

Wing chun was created in china to be the best of the best martial art by the representing monks of the chinese martial arts styles(nan styles, chan styles, Thai chi styles..........1000+ other styles) at that time, All those monks discussed together abt the good n bad in their own martial art style n finally came up with the idea of making the best martial art which was later called Wing chun

Karate n many other martial arts are often based on the maximum power, bt in Wing chun power is not only the fact of winnin. In wingchun we learn how to use the power in the most efficent way. In wing chun we use muscle power + Ground power n jerks.
In martial arts like Karate ,Taekwondo, chinese sanshou, Muay thai........ taht ground power is wasted coz they use "bound spring physics principle" as you said, n they rarely use jerk attacks which are really useful in street fighting. so i think those martial arts are better as sports than being a street fighting art when compared with wingchun.

Wing chun can never be a sport as it has no limitations, rules. If anyone try to put rules for wing chun fighting it wont be Wingchun anymore



AFAIK wing chun has got most powerful kicks n punches coz "jerks" are used + power
 

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Sasika@Elakiri said:
yes machan, Our loku teacher is coaching to all three forces + MP

Macho I think you have miss lead by some one or a coach.

AFAIK wingchun is the Martial art that has No limitations unlike others.
Karate is also good bt my opinion is it is not as gr8 as wingchun when it comes to street fighting. Keep in your mind that karate is also originated frm Southern Chinese martial arts.

Wing chun was created in china to be the best of the best martial art by the representing monks of the chinese martial arts styles(nan styles, chan styles, Thai chi styles..........1000+ other styles) at that time, All those monks discussed together abt the good n bad in their own martial art style n finally came up with the idea of making the best martial art which was later called Wing chun

Karate n many other martial arts are often based on the maximum power, bt in Wing chun power is not only the fact of winnin. In wingchun we learn how to use the power in the most efficent way. In wing chun we use muscle power + Ground power n jerks.
In martial arts like Karate ,Taekwondo, chinese sanshou, Muay thai........ taht ground power is wasted coz they use "bound spring physics principle" as you said, n they rarely use jerk attacks which are really useful in street fighting. so i think those martial arts are better as sports than being a street fighting art when compared with wingchun.

Wing chun can never be a sport as it has no limitations, rules. If anyone try to put rules for wing chun fighting it wont be Wingchun anymore



AFAIK wing chun has got most powerful kicks n punches coz "jerks" are used + power

useless to go further man....
then why the "hell" all those SFs (including us navy seals and brisitsh SAS and our SL elites) are trained to full contact versions....

again , AS i already told I was well aware of the facts man...i know very well who is da this jayaweera..:frown: :) :lol:

just asking did you ever engadged in real blood arm to arm combat?:dull:
you told me before that the higher kicks are useless and the wing-chun is like da streat fighting....
flying and jump kicks are terible man..can brake the enamies bone and crack the throat....(once the jaffna SL gamunu watch soldier has killed a LTTE bastard with a such throat breaking kick..so com'on man..respect the realty..Not the Kungfu-History)...

bye machan..And if you live in SL have a visit into nearby SL army elite training center..(but, .I think you are yet under the16 years old teen)
 
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wing chun is never acepted as a complete combat form...(even the bruce lee has copied other martial arts to form his JEET-KUNE-DO...( do you know it man.?.)
ehema neth nam special forces walata wingchun ma witharak train karai ne:P

math kalayak jayaweeragen practice una (eyage concept eka thama wingchun thama hondama kiyala)...namuth wing chun eke "fantacy" wage newei attha ta gahaganna giyama....eka godak wenas machan :lol:

if you have a time visit into katukurunda stf base or maduru oya SF base..(how old are you bro???)--- SL elite units are extremely trained in full contact martial arts ...

Machan there is no concept as jayaweera concept, he teaches wht he learned frm grandmaster william chun

grand master william chun is called as the moderator of wingchun, he has got his own style which is modern wingchun.

My opinion is that modern wingchun is not 100% perfect,

Traditional wing chun is da best, bt leg movements in modern wing chun are better. wing chun kawadawath fantacy neme machan, atta thamai academy eke godak welawata combination kara kara innawa bt kaalayak kalama machan api real fights karama therenawa wingchun kiyanne mokakda kiyala
wing chun walin fight karanna nam wing chun concept eke inna one

Samahara aya wingchun walin fight karnna giyama tika welawakin oppotent ge style eka karanna yanawa , anna ethokata thamai wing chun kelawenne .

Wing chun is all about fullcontact machan :lol: we dont have seperations.

Karate n other martial arts are also gud
 
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useless to go further man....
then why the all the SFs (including us navy seals and brisitsh SAS and our SL elites) are trained to full contact versions....

again , AS i already told I was well aware of the facts man...i know very well who is da this jayaweera..:frown: :) :lol:

just asking did you ever engadged in real blood arm to arm combat?:dull:
you told me before that the higher kicks are useless and the wing-chun is like da streat fighting....
flying and jump kicks are terible man..can brake the enamies bone and crack the throat....(one the jaffna SL gamunu watch soldier has killed a LTTE bastard with a such throat breaking kick..so com'on man..respect the realty..Not the Kungfu-History)...

bye machan


Full contact,...... i hate that word machan.

I repeat Wingchun is all abt FullContact, there is no Fullcontact n noncantact seperation

us navy seals and brisitsh SAS and other intl. speacial forces are not trained with only karate, Nowadays they are often trained with Brazillian Jiu jutsu (which is a mixed martial art and that is also originated frm chinese martial arts), Wing chun n some other martial arts

even in sl forces they are taught Wingchun, karate + other kinds of martial arts coz they may think mixing all together is better :P
N ppl in forces have enough power to do attacks n block whn fightin coz they are pre fitness trained ppl., bt in real world every person hasn't got equal power to fight,there are skinny ppl fat ppl, too tall ppl so wing chun is for evryone, no need to have too much power, forest law is ignored in WC:D

Hehe all his past n present students know him very well, evn I :rofl: :P :lol: :confused: :P :P

:P :P wht are you asking men, YES I HAVE , cnt count even.
I know the taste of fresh blood
In challenge fights and whn practicing, Wing chun was part of ma life sum time back(whn i was 12, 13 , 14 ,15 yrs old) , sometimes in ma classes i was the youngest person, I most of the time had to spar with men, uni students, priests who were over 20 yrs old+ sometimes 35+:rofl: jst imagine i was only abt 13 ,14 yrs at that time n evryday im straight heading to weda mahaththayas place after the practice session.:P

I never said that, i never said that jump kicks and flying kicks are useless,Even we have practiced em and cn do, Wht I said was that in WC those are not thought as big things. Flying kicks and jump kicks are godayanta magic :P , Bt I believe that they are really effective if sum 1 can do it accurately. coz jst imagine wht will happen if someone do a high side kick after taking a side stance whn a person in air while doin a flyin kick:P n there are many other ways to avoid and counter attck back .
We use higher kicks in WC, bt doesnt say that a person can fight jst bcoz he cn do a fancy Jump kick or a flying kick to air, to get the max out of it, practitioner should learn the real use of the kick not to jst show off. as i said it is godayanta magic n there are many other attacks, kicks which are better than flying kick if a person cn do em.



Im respecting the reality n talkin it machan :D :cool:
 

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Sasika@Elakiri said:
Machan there is no concept as jayaweera concept, he teaches wht he learned frm grandmaster william chun

grand master william chun is called as the moderator of wingchun, he has got his own style which is modern wingchun.

My opinion is that modern wingchun is not 100% perfect,

Traditional wing chun is da best, bt leg movements in modern wing chun are better. wing chun kawadawath fantacy neme machan, atta thamai academy eke godak welawata combination kara kara innawa bt kaalayak kalama machan api real fights karama therenawa wingchun kiyanne mokakda kiyala
wing chun walin fight karanna nam wing chun concept eke inna one

Samahara aya wingchun walin fight karnna giyama tika welawakin oppotent ge style eka karanna yanawa , anna ethokata thamai wing chun kelawenne .

Wing chun is all about fullcontact machan :lol: we dont have seperations.

Karate n other martial arts are also gud

dear bro Sasika

i agree with you on the free form of the Wing-chun...and I respect to your knowladge on this issue
bUT,.. i cant agree on, that it is the best form of the martial art...

dont tell me about the full contact ,,,I know very well man... ;-D

you can define it as a free style...I got understood that there are weak points, As I observed the some strokes of Mr jayaweera (it was long time ago)...
tHE wingchun lover tell that they adopt the enamies strikes. But remember the fight is not always a gamble...

The shaolin tradition and Shorinji kempo tradition are still using the strokes based on bound spring principle...

attha waliyak kiyanne atha gana eka nemei, etayak (bone) hari kedenna ona..

you make me laugh when you talking about the "godayanta majic"..(.a STUPID VERSION to justify urban ignornce)

again useless to go further...This is a topic about the kungfu and I dont want to make reaction to the ongoing kungfu discussions..

sounds like you are very sure about the wingchun fantasy..Honestly I ,m very willing to meet you and test some fight with you...Let us organise something about late of this year..Becasue now I,m out of the SL



until that day bye :)
 
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dear bro Sasika

i agree with you on the free form of the Wing-chun...and I respect to your knowladge on this issue
bUT,.. i cant agree on, that it is the best form of the martial art...

dont tell me about the full contact ,,,I know very well man... ;-D

you can define it as a free style...I got understood that there are weak points, As I observed the some strokes of Mr jayaweera (it was long time ago)...
tHE wingchun lover tell that they adopt the enamies strikes. But remember the fight is not always a gamble...

The shaolin tradition and Shorinji kempo tradition are still using the strokes based on bound spring principle...

attha waliyak kiyanne atha gana eka nemei, etayak (bone) hari kedenna ona..

you make me laugh when you talking about the "godayanta majic"..(.a STUPID VERSION to justify urban ignornce)

again useless to go further...This is a topic about the kungfu and I dont want to make reaction to the ongoing kungfu discussions..

sounds like you are very sure about the wingchun fantasy..Honestly I ,m very willing to meet you and test some fight with you...Let us organise something about late of this year..Becasue now I,m out of the SL



until that day bye :)
I think my knowledge is not enough to talk abt Wingchun machan coz I still couldnt make you understand.

I respect to yours too

Machan wht I said was Its the best martial art in the world for me bt now I say it has got the best martial art concept.

I didn't say nything abt fullcontact, ur the one who did.

why do i have to repeat u the same thing? . yes i told you ne, william chun style is not 100% perfect. eg : keeping the onguard stiffly

Yes most of the times bt thats one method only

chk this site n read the history as you cn learn many things abt WC, so it may b true that traditional styles still use bound spring principle bt mate i have to repeat you again that wing chun is based on those traditional styles and was created becoz there were weaknesses in those traditional styles. read the history you will get it, the biggest problem with those styles were the time they had to spend to becom a superior, they are gud for monks coz they had plenty of spare time to practice. to become a warrior they had to practice frm the small age for abt 20 yrs.

today we cnt do that ne , so wing chun is also appropriate to practice as a self defence martial art than practicing a martial art which is mainly based on body power like those traditional styles and karate........

Atta waliyak kiyanne ata ganna eka neme thamai N Machan Fight ekak gihilla thamangema Ata kataganna onenam mokatada banzz martial arts karanne? Wal adi, pol adi tikak purudu wunanam iwaraine lolzzzzzzz....:lol: :lol:
practice karanakota waradeem nawatwanna baa bt real martial artist kenek thamanta karadarayak wena kisi deyak karanna, ehema karanawanam martial arts karala palakuth na, Ehema thamnta thuwalayak wena widiyata practice karana, fight karana eka niyama martial artist kenekuth neme mama hithanne


k again i will repeat, wing chun is not a fantacy, you can call flying kicks fantacy though :D.

Are u doin ny martial art now other than WC?

Aniwa machan, jst PM me whenever you can, whtever place you like,ny time, Im always ready. Bt i play no rules,
I think you'll understand wht I'm tryin to tell you, after it. ;) :D
 

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Sasika@Elakiri said:
I think my knowledge is not enough to talk abt Wingchun machan coz I still couldnt make you understand.

I respect to yours too

Machan wht I said was Its the best martial art in the world for me bt now I say it has got the best martial art concept.

I didn't say nything abt fullcontact, ur the one who did.

why do i have to repeat u the same thing? . yes i told you ne, william chun style is not 100% perfect. eg : keeping the onguard stiffly

Yes most of the times bt thats one method only

chk this site n read the history as you cn learn many things abt WC, so it may b true that traditional styles still use bound spring principle bt mate i have to repeat you again that wing chun is based on those traditional styles and was created becoz there were weaknesses in those traditional styles. read the history you will get it, the biggest problem with those styles were the time they had to spend to becom a superior, they are gud for monks coz they had plenty of spare time to practice. to become a warrior they had to practice frm the small age for abt 20 yrs.

today we cnt do that ne , so wing chun is also appropriate to practice as a self defence martial art than practicing a martial art which is mainly based on body power like those traditional styles and karate........

Atta waliyak kiyanne ata ganna eka neme thamai N Machan Fight ekak gihilla thamangema Ata kataganna onenam mokatada banzz martial arts karanne? Wal adi, pol adi tikak purudu wunanam iwaraine lolzzzzzzz....:lol: :lol:
practice karanakota waradeem nawatwanna baa bt real martial artist kenek thamanta karadarayak wena kisi deyak karanna, ehema karanawanam martial arts karala palakuth na, Ehema thamnta thuwalayak wena widiyata practice karana, fight karana eka niyama martial artist kenekuth neme mama hithanne


k again i will repeat, wing chun is not a fantacy, you can call flying kicks fantacy though :D.

Are u doin ny martial art now other than WC?

Aniwa machan, jst PM me whenever you can, whtever place you like,ny time, Im always ready. Bt i play no rules,
I think you'll understand wht I'm tryin to tell you, after it. ;) :D

Thanks my friend I ll surely pm you .and leave the mobile no and let us discuss the place and times..
sounds like that you are already going into psy stage talking about the rules..
who said there are rules in the extrem combat....please dont be pathetic friend..:dull:

we are never based on the flying kick concept or what ever concept..The wind blows what ever and when ever it wants.,. That is the pure mechanical theory of the our martial art tradition...

see yu soon friend
 
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Bruce lee is a student of Great grand master Yip mann (who is called as the father of wing chun sumtimes, bt he's not the person who invented it. )

Grandmaster Yip mann is only 5 ft tall and a small built person bt he could KO any kind of a person because of his WC skills. He worked as a cop to the HK government and some say that he had a hobby of takin dangerous criminals, fighters out of the prison illegally and challengin them to fight with him for his practice. And those ppl never returned to the jail back without goin to the hospital :rofl: :rofl:

Chk out this vdo, here the bruce punch the sand bag with vertical fist punch with wrist jerk(this atack is unique for Wing chun)

at the end it shows he's performing another vertical fist wrist jerk on karate practitioner from 1inch only and the guys falls down - see how powerful a wrist jerk is

And he performs a wing chun cross leg side kick with thrust, see hw powerful.
 

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Sasika@Elakiri said:
Bruce lee is a student of Great grand master Yip mann (who is called as the father of wing chun sumtimes, bt he's not the person who invented it. )

Grandmaster Yip mann is only 5 ft tall and a small built person bt he could KO any kind of a person because of his WC skills. He worked as a cop to the HK government and some say that he had a hobby of takin dangerous criminals, fighters out of the prison illegally and challengin them to fight with him for his practice. And those ppl never returned to the jail back without goin to the hospital :rofl: :rofl:

Chk out this vdo, here the bruce punch the sand bag with vertical fist punch with wrist jerk(this atack is unique for Wing chun)

at the end it shows he's performing another vertical fist wrist jerk on karate practitioner from 1inch only and the guys falls down - see how powerful a wrist jerk is

And he performs a wing chun cross leg side kick with thrust, see hw powerful.

fist punch with a wrist jerk= one of best...fast and uses the rotation power of the wrist....and can be combined with the another fast punch from the other hand

mh..:no: this kick is not purely from the wingchun style, although wingchun masters named it as the cross leg side kick..yes the unique modified advance form is endemic to WC..but the basic form is used by shaolin kungfu and by the shorinji kempo :)
 
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Thanks my friend I ll surely pm you .and leave the mobile no and let us discuss the place and times..
sounds like that you are already going into psy stage talking about the rules..
who said there are rules in the extrem combat....please dont be pathetic friend..:dull:

we are never based on the flying kick concept or what ever concept...,. That is the pure mechanical theory of the our martial art tradition...

see yu soon friend

I didnt say you said :D :D :D

I think you have understood a bit."The wind blows what ever and when ever it wants"

Machan wt is ur martial art? tradition or whateva?

see ya chk the vdos too
 
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uhox said:
fist punch with a wrist jerk= one of best...fast and uses the ratation power of the wrist....and can be combined with the another fast punch from the other hand

mh..:no: this kick is not purely from the wingchun style, although wingchun masters named it as the cross leg side kick..yes the unique modified advance form is endemic to WC..but the basic form is used by shaolin kungfu and by the shorinji kempo :)

Yes it should be ne coz WC means a part of chinese martial arts, Its a style. and its basement was traditional chinese styles, traditional shaolin styles + other styles frm different suburbs of china
 

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Sasika@Elakiri said:
I didnt say you said :D :D :D

I think you have understood a bit."The wind blows what ever and when ever it wants"

Machan wt is ur martial art? tradition or whateva?

see ya chk the vdos too


do u really interested about our Martial art tradition man????:lol:
just a tip....go to google and search the word angam or malayalam...

but...that is not the all...

anyway quite better than the "konde bendapu chinnunge" stuff and it is oposite form of the so-called imported martial art traditions,on which most of our urbanite youth are based on....:lol: :)
 
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uhox said:
do u really interested about our Martial art tradition man????:lol:
just a tip....go to google and search the word angam or malayalam...

but...that is not the all...

anyway quite better than the "konde bendapu chinnunge" stuff and it is oposite form of the so-called imported martial art traditions,on which most of our urbanite youth are based on....:lol: :)

Haha angam da ela ela hehe