Let’s talk about Audio Album sharing

Do you like to have Sinhala audio albums download in here( Elakiri )..?


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GTRZ

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    hasanda said:
    machan loke sAhena deyak rada pawathinne bedahada gAnima matha...Cyberspace wAdima pramanayak sharing math rada pa wathinne..!
    Cybershape witharak nemei lokema pawathinne bedahada ganeemen. Eth beda hada ganna puluwan dewal thiyanwa bari dewal thiyanwa. Anika music beda hada ganna bari kamak na ne eka hamotama ganna puluwan eth salli gewanna ona.
    Eka hadana manusaya eka free denna kamathi nam eke prashnayak na. Eka hadana manussaya eka free denna kamathi naththan apita eka balen ganna ba ne. Ai anik minissunge dewal nikan illane.
     

    DJAT

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    GTRZ said:
    Cybershape witharak nemei lokema pawathinne bedahada ganeemen. Eth beda hada ganna puluwan dewal thiyanwa bari dewal thiyanwa. Anika music beda hada ganna bari kamak na ne eka hamotama ganna puluwan eth salli gewanna ona.
    Eka hadana manusaya eka free denna kamathi nam eke prashnayak na. Eka hadana manussaya eka free denna kamathi naththan apita eka balen ganna ba ne. Ai anik minissunge dewal nikan illane.

    Ow nmachan Artist free denawanam aka apita karanna deyak naha.aka eya karanna promote wenna .apith karanna akamai.ohoma wikunanna song karanna nathenam ai radio staion artis lata pay karanna?? aka dan neethiyak.

    ane manda ban maka munta terum karanna harima amarui akai mama ubata comment karanna kiwwa.dan terenawa neda tathwe.anyway GT im so happy today.mokata apa kattiya chat natuwa PRO discussion 1kak yanawa :lol: :lol:
     

    henderson

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    GTRZ said:
    Just compare srilankan albums and international music albums. Check the difference of price in stores. SL album cost Rs 500 and international album costs many thousands. Both artists have same production cost or our people have more. Since equipments are expensive in here. And in the other hand srilankan audience is very small compared to international audience. So srilankan artists have only small number of people to recover their money.

    Many years ago too albums were Rs 500 and cassettes were around 100. It never increased. I have cassettes around 15 years old but still the price tag says Rs 100/- Just think Rs100 15 years ago!
    But in the other hand all other stuff increased their price. So music makers have to pay big money to buy other stuff while selling their stuff for cheap.

    About your cars and music point. You are actually supporting my point.
    Because you said you can't copy cars but can easily can copy music. Cars are very expensive but people buy them and they have value on them. Music can be copied easily so they don't find any value in them. Lets say we'll give album for Rs 250 you think people buy hehe. Machan i have friends who think copying a CD is waste of money. Not buying just copying is waste!
    They want to put like 10 albums in a one CD. They say putting a album in CD is just waste so should put like 10 albums or use a flash drive to copy :lol:

    So my point is bro. The biggest issue is illegal copying and sharing. After you reduce illegal sharing or copying you can reduce the price of album depending on sales.

    If you can reduce price by stopping Illegal copying, its excellent. Lets assume you stopped the Illegal copying. After that still music price is same as old time its high until your sales are get higher. Stopping of Illegal copying does not mean people will start to buy. Of course their will be some in sales, but most of people will go for free media such as radio channels. So increase in sales will not be significant increase to drop prices. So still it will be almost the same as current situation only thing is publicity will be reduced since amount of copies are very low. It usually does not work that way.

    When we talk about western countries the price of music is high when you compare with Sri Lanka. But how about the income? Its many times SL avg income. So their purchasing power is high and they can afford those prices.

    Since cassette is 100/= and CD is 500/=, both have same content. So does media is costly? I think high price tag for CD is bcoz they assume its Luxury item and cassette is 100/= bcoz its poor mans Item. That assumption is correct for few years ago but no longer its correct.

    I think if you need to make profit you need to take a risk. If someone start to give original CD a less price, say its 100/= most of people will buy it instead of copying. And Still it does not happen you can apply anti piracy laws then definetly people will move from pirated to original stuff instead of going for free media like radio channels.
     

    DJAT

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    hasanda said:
    hari machan admin ehema hithapan uba cd1k aragena eka ube yaluwekata denne nAdda.? uba ekata salli gannawada.?

    machan api CD 1kak aran yaluwo 10kata denawa kiyamu.but api link 1kak share karala winadi 10k hitiya kiyamu.mokakda wenasa Internet 1ka machan album 1ka share wenawa wadi neda?? kohoma dunnathe Album 1ka salli deela ganna nathi 1ka waradi tamai.but machan GT kiwwa waga Ai api anik ewa oya waga share karanna nattha?? aka apita watina nisa nemaida?? album 1ka 1ka parak ahuwahama watinna nathi wenna puluwan athe aka 1ka parak hari ubata watinawa neda??
     

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    DJAT said:
    machan api CD 1kak aran yaluwo 10kata denawa kiyamu.but api link 1kak share karala winadi 10k hitiya kiyamu.mokakda wenasa Internet 1ka machan album 1ka share wenawa wadi neda?? kohoma dunnathe Album 1ka salli deela ganna nathi 1ka waradi tamai.but machan GT kiwwa waga Ai api anik ewa oya waga share karanna nattha?? aka apita watina nisa nemaida?? album 1ka 1ka parak ahuwahama watinna nathi wenna puluwan athe aka 1ka parak hari ubata watinawa neda??

    hari machan kawru unath edein sathutu wenawanm neda watinne...machan wenath dewal ekka kalawa patalawanna epa ban...lassa deyak dakinna api hAmoma sai ban..e wagema lassana sinduwak ahanna hAma manussayeka asai..eka pawa nA machan thawa 100kta duna kiyala... unoth pin siddawei..
     

    DJAT

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    hasanda said:
    hari machan kawru unath edein sathutu wenawanm neda watinne...machan wenath dewal ekka kalawa patalawanna epa ban...lassa deyak dakinna api hAmoma sai ban..e wagema lassana sinduwak ahanna hAma manussayeka asai..eka pawa nA machan thawa 100kta duna kiyala... unoth pin siddawei..

    machan manussa kamai kalawai dekama samanai. Hari Uba GF lassanai kiyamau Uba kamathida eyawa share kara ganna (machan dont missunderstand its EX only) :P) .akama balapan.uba manussa kama gana kata karanawa ethakota artista wena asadarane?? he or she amanussayekda??
     

    GTRZ

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    henderson said:
    If you can reduce price by stopping Illegal copying, its excellent. Lets assume you stopped the Illegal copying. After that still music price is same as old time its high until your sales are get higher. Stopping of Illegal copying does not mean people will start to buy. Of course their will be some in sales, but most of people will go for free media such as radio channels. So increase in sales will not be significant increase to drop prices. So still it will be almost the same as current situation only thing is publicity will be reduced since amount of copies are very low. It usually does not work that way.
    You got to understand the market and how products and price change depending on the people's need. You are having a totally wrong idea machan.
    If we can reduce illegal copying then sales will increase then it's up to music makers to reduce the price or keep it as that. If they reduce the price there will be more sales. Its up to them to make more sales or just keep the price up and share it with few number of people. So music and artists depends on popularity so they want to get popular as much as they can so surely they will have to reduce the price and get more people to listen to their songs. Then they can reduce the price because they got enough sales to cover the costs.

    henderson said:
    When we talk about western countries the price of music is high when you compare with Sri Lanka. But how about the income? Its many times SL avg income. So their purchasing power is high and they can afford those prices.
    I am not talking about price in western countries but the price of western albums in srilankan stores. Srilankan album prices are much lower than that too.
    And why don't you think about the production cost. Our people get equipments or media for cheap? Its even more expensive than other countries.
    Our radio stations or any TV channel paying royalty for artists when they play their music? never. So basically if you really don't wanna buy albums then you can stop it. Why asking them for free. It means you want them so in simple like other stuff their is a cost to cover so there will be a price tag.

    henderson said:
    Since cassette is 100/= and CD is 500/=, both have same content. So does media is costly? I think high price tag for CD is bcoz they assume its Luxury item and cassette is 100/= bcoz its poor mans Item. That assumption is correct for few years ago but no longer its correct.
    Record companies try to cover the cost by selling CDs, If you take the cost of media then cassettes are more expensive then CDs. Anyway if you don't like that then you can buy cassettes. hehe I know you will say less quality and you want CDs. Then its just business they set the price for the demand. Overall they want to cover the cost.

    henderson said:
    I think if you need to make profit you need to take a risk. If someone start to give original CD a less price, say its 100/= most of people will buy it instead of copying. And Still it does not happen you can apply anti piracy laws then definetly people will move from pirated to original stuff instead of going for free media like radio channels.
    Already music industry is a big risk. You spend tons of money on an album and you are not sure how much you will get in return. Nope you are dead wrong even if you give an album for Rs 100 it will only increase the sales in small percentage while your overall income will get very low since you are giving the album 5 times less than the usual price. In srilanka until people can't get the music for free they will never buy it even how cheap it goes. I mean majority of the people. So it should be reduce of illegal copying and dropping the price as sales grows method. About radio stations it's already there and its not an alternative for music albums. I think i don't have to explain about it.
     

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    hasanda said:
    hari machan admin ehema hithapan uba cd1k aragena eka ube yaluwekata denne nAdda.? uba ekata salli gannawada.?

    mama kiyanne machan elakiri eke share karana eka gana. Nathuwa umbala private life eke share karana ewa mata adala na machan. Mata ewa wadakuth na.
     

    GTRZ

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    hasanda said:
    hari machan kawru unath edein sathutu wenawanm neda watinne...machan wenath dewal ekka kalawa patalawanna epa ban...lassa deyak dakinna api hAmoma sai ban..e wagema lassana sinduwak ahanna hAma manussayeka asai..eka pawa nA machan thawa 100kta duna kiyala... unoth pin siddawei..

    Ithin machan api okoma ganna kamathi lassna dewal ne. Ithin anik lassana dewal apita free hambenne na ne. Ewata api salli gewanwane. Ewa api nikan illanneth na ne. Ewagema ewa nikan dunnoth pin thamai. Eth kawruth apita ewa nikan denne na ne. Ithin ai music witharak nikan illanne?
     

    DJAT

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    GTRZ said:
    Ithin machan api okoma ganna kamathi lassna dewal ne. Ithin anik lassana dewal apita free hambenne na ne. Ewata api salli gewanwane. Ewa api nikan illanneth na ne. Ewagema ewa nikan dunnoth pin thamai. Eth kawruth apita ewa nikan denne na ne. Ithin ai music witharak nikan illanne?

    hehe ubathe nokiya kiwwa mama kiyapu EX 1ka na :P??
     

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    DJAT said:
    machan manussa kamai kalawai dekama samanai. Hari Uba GF lassanai kiyamau Uba kamathida eyawa share kara ganna (machan dont missunderstand its EX only) :P) .akama balapan.uba manussa kama gana kata karanawa ethakota artista wena asadarane?? he or she amanussayekda??
    machan mage GF lassai kiyala eka share karanna bA eka maha pissu kathawak ne ban....namuth machan minissu mage gAni lassai kiyala kiwwata kamak nA.lassana de lassani kiyala kiyana one
     

    henderson

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    GTRZ said:
    You got to understand the market and how products and price change depending on the people's need. You are having a totally wrong idea machan.
    If we can reduce illegal copying then sales will increase then it's up to music makers to reduce the price or keep it as that. If they reduce the price there will be more sales. Its up to them to make more sales or just keep the price up and share it with few number of people. So music and artists depends on popularity so they want to get popular as much as they can so surely they will have to reduce the price and get more people to listen to their songs. Then they can reduce the price because they got enough sales to cover the costs.
    Even after covering the cost still albums are the same price. I don't know any album where price was reduced after covering up costs. Anyway may be you can enlight me bcoz my knowladge about prices are low.

    GTRZ said:
    I am not talking about price in western countries but the price of western albums in srilankan stores. Srilankan album prices are much lower than that too.
    And why don't you think about the production cost. Our people get equipments or media for cheap? Its even more expensive than other countries.
    Our radio stations or any TV channel paying royalty for artists when they play their music? never. So basically if you really don't wanna buy albums then you can stop it. Why asking them for free. It means you want them so in simple like other stuff their is a cost to cover so there will be a price tag.

    western albums are for limited amount of people who have probably high living standered where sinhala albums are for everyone in the country. So probably it must be affordable for major portion of the socity.

    GTRZ said:
    Record companies try to cover the cost by selling CDs, If you take the cost of media then cassettes are more expensive then CDs. Anyway if you don't like that then you can buy cassettes. hehe I know you will say less quality and you want CDs. Then its just business they set the price for the demand. Overall they want to cover the cost.

    In this case I would rather buy a cassette and also I would get a pirated CD. Since I have paid for artist for the music.

    GTRZ said:
    Already music industry is a big risk. You spend tons of money on an album and you are not sure how much you will get in return. Nope you are dead wrong even if you give an album for Rs 100 it will only increase the sales in small percentage while your overall income will get very low since you are giving the album 5 times less than the usual price. In srilanka until people can't get the music for free they will never buy it even how cheap it goes. I mean majority of the people. So it should be reduce of illegal copying and dropping the price as sales grows method. About radio stations it's already there and its not an alternative for music albums. I think i don't have to explain about it.
    I don't said you should reduce the price of the album and wait. I mean you should reduce album when heavy operation against pirated music is in place, so that people are forced towards purchase. You can't expect most of people to pay 500 rupees for a album. If you reduce it for 100 rupees with heavy active copyright laws. probably you will make sales more than 5 fold.

    I did not support to put music for free download in EK. Bcoz its Illegal and I don't want to see something bad happen to EK. I was just sharing my personal thoughts why people rather prefer pirated music rather than original music.