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LMAO.....
i will be a monkey's uncle....this guy is absolutely correct....
now if only sri lankans had the guts to ask Dr.Zakir naik about this face to face and tear that phony's mask off....
personaly i hate this MULLA fellows.i dont know why
lol....we hate em too.....
according to Islam every man is equal except by his level of education and knowledge.....i hope those idiots get the memo soon....
LMAO.....
i will be a monkey's uncle....this guy is absolutely correct....
now if only sri lankans had the guts to ask Dr.Zakir naik about this face to face and tear that phony's mask off....
Yes !A monkey can think better than you racist!
YOU IDIOT CAN"T THINK BEOYAND QURAN!
THE BOOK OF HOLY SHIT!
YEAH MAY BE THATS WHY THE ISLAM BECAME THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN TEH WORLD.... ANE BUNG UMBALAGE BIBLE EKE THIYENA BAIYA TIKA AHALA MINISSUNTA ATHI WELA THIYENNE... UMBALA NIKAND LECTURE KENEK ENAWA KIYALA, KALISAME CHOO KARA GANNAWA... ADO CHO KOLLEK WAGE HANGILA MADA GAHANNE NATHUWA AWILLA AHAPAN DR GEN PRASHNA TILA MAGE BOOORU PUTHE...
QURAN IS THE EVER BEST MANUAL THAT SAY HOW TO LIVE!!! SO ITS NOT REQUIRED TO THINK BEYOND IT.... CHRISTIANS WHO THINKS BEYOND THE BIBLE CONVERTS TO ISLAM CZ THINKING BEYOND THE BIBLE SHOW ITS CAJOLEMENT!!!
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You are right.. I don't know whether to think god is omnipotent or not... till you answer this question in my previous reply here.. (BTW you have not commented on that reply #784 yet)
This was my question..
Referring to the highlighted parts of your comment, yes.. in our scientific observations sun doesn't seem to prostrate.. that's what I was saying..
But if you say the rest is unknown to us and only god knows.. then we have nothing to talk here
Here is how Muslims look at it! God asks us to ponder and think in the Quran about the concept of God, the creation of the universe, the intricate design and plan of the world, nature and the soul! Muslims are supposed to be muslims because they are logically convinced that, there is a God, God is one and that Quran is the word of God. We believe the Quran to be the word of God not just because of its scientific and historical precision and because its predictions have come true but most of all, the fact that all this has been encompassed in unparalleled unique literature which is poetic and precise is the ultimate factor! I will illustrate the case of One God and the Quran in further posts.
We cannot acknowledge a Creator and then as a creation try to understand in totality and figure out the wisdom of God ! Then that would mean that that god is not really god and there is no differencee between us ! We might be able to comprehend some of it but not all of it ! The same with the concept of free will and prayer , we will be able to comprehend some of its wisdom and benefits but not in totality ! I will elaborate on this in further posts .
And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They(angels) said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know." - Qur'an 2:30
This is also spoken about in the link i posted above of the conversion of Dr.Geoffrey lang
To cite another example
Allah’s Apostle said, “If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it (into the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing (antidote for it) i.e. the treatment for that disease.”
The text reads:
The Prophet said, “If a housefly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease.”
The same Hadith is also repeated in Volume 7 – with this very interesting footnote:
(1) (H. 5782) Medically it is well-known now that a fly carries some pathogens on some parts of its body as mentioned by the Prophet (S), [before 1400 years approx. when the humans knew very little of modern medicine]. Similarly Allah (S.W.T.),
Recently experiments have been done under supervision which indicate that a fly carries the disease (pathogens) plus the antidote for those pathogenic organisms.
We might not be able to comprehend this by first reactions but later on we see that there is wisdom behind it . Rational Faith .
Rational (because we are are convinced of One God and acknowlege Him as our Creator and take guidance from His Book)
Faith (because we submit as a creation to the Creat-or and acknowledge that we may not fully comprehend in full God wisdom, we are in conclusion that the Creator knows better than the creation and submit to His will and wisdom)
Watch Intelligent Faith http://vodpod.com/watch/323656-inte...-of-reason-and-intellect-in-islam-yasir-qadhi It answers the question of 'suns prostration'
(Nor does the night outstrip the day) ﴿36:40﴾ means, the night follows the day in succession and does not come later or earlier than it should be. This is why Allah said here,
﴿يَطْلُبُهُ حَثِيثًا وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ وَالنُّجُومَ مُسَخَّرَتٍ بِأَمْرِهِ﴾
(seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His command.) meaning, all are under His command, will and dominion.
The arabic word here doesnt connote a time frame ! There is another word in arabic which also implies daylight with a time frame attached to it called 'youm'. There is no time frame here attached to the word 'outstrip' which forces you to see this verse in context of a 24 hour day!the fact is , it is not completely eternally in darkness nor is it completely eternally in sunshine ! That is what is meant by 'outstrip' . one is not allowed to engulf or to 'strip' the other completely out.
Arabic is a rich language and very precise , many a time it gets lost in translation when in english ! For example there are about 9 words for farmers in arabic ! One word for the farmer that waters the seeds,one for the farmer that ploughs the earth,one for the farmer that plants the seed and so forth ! So do not view this in the sense of a 12 hour daylight and 12 hour darkness day ! In this verse the word 'nahar' is used to connote the 'daylight' or 'light' in its illuminatory sense but without attaching a time frame to it , as the word for 'day' with time frame attached to it is called 'youm' !
This is interesting..
In verse 65:12 it says Allah created 7 heavens and 7 of the earth like thereof..
Now Prophet has mentioned that as a punishment you could end up beneath the earth, then surely the 7 layers must be hell or equivalent.. then how come this is not specified in 65:12 for example "Allah created 7 heavens and 7 hells"? what's the reason to specifically mention heavens and leave out "hell"?
You could also argue since its not mentioned.... it could be 7 other planets, or it could also be 7 other heavens beneath the ground... (but then that contradicts the Prophet's statement all together)
What are you on about? 'What is the reason to specifically mention heavens and leave out 'hell'?' When the prophet mentions that of sinking down seven earths, it doesn’t imply that hell is beneath the earth. It’s metaphorical! And in the Quran hell is mention, heaven is mentioned, earth is mentioned, skies are mentioned! Each, accordingly so and relevant to context. If you ask me why this does NOT have this and that it’s like asking me why blue doesn’t have red! I can only explain or try to what it IS written.
Oh! Please dude.. these are elementary level stuff..
Now how many without Pluto?
- Mercury
- Venus
- Earth
- Mars
- Jupiter
- Saturn
- Uranus
- Neptune
Even if it is 7 without Pluto, you are still wrong because they took Pluto out only as a outer planet and re-categorized it as a dwarf planet.. yet it is still there and still a planet of some sort.. and there are 4 more dwarf planets..
So the planet count is 13
Yeah this is not as elementary as you think!
"In 2006, the International Astronomical Union officially adopted a resolution defining planets within the Solar System. This definition has been both praised and criticized, and remains disputed by some scientists.'
'From its beginnings denoting the "wandering stars" of the classical world, the definition of planet has been fraught with ambiguity. In its long life, the word has meant many different things, often simultaneously. Over the millennia, use of the term was never strict and its meaning has twisted and blurred to include or exclude a variety of different objects, from the Sun and the Moon to satellites and asteroids.
The issue of a clear definition for planet came to a head in 2005 with the discovery of the trans-Neptunian object Eris, a body larger than the smallest then-accepted planet, Pluto"
So they are still not unanimous about it and if some one later one finds out that theres another spacial object or moon of a planet that is bigger than any other planet , there is not guarantee that they will change or will not change it ! When NASA or IAU is in dispute over what is a planet and whats not and their criterion changing throughout time i will accept the categorization of the One who created it even before man figured out planets exist !
'Aristarchus: His astronomical ideas were often rejected in favor of the geocentric theories of Aristotle and Ptolemy until they were successfully revived nearly 1800 years later by Copernicus and extensively developed and built upon by Johannes Kepler and Isaac Newton. The crater Aristarchus on the Moon is named in his honor. '
If you were to say some one plagiarized , then lets look at the claim. During the time of Muhammed he was already taunted enough by those around him , he had no reason for more of it by saying that earth is round and about the orbital nature of the universe ! In fact those days such ideas were dimissed and deemed to be absurd ! If someone is going to plagiarize something then they dont plagiarize what everyone says is a lunatic theory !!! Furthermore the Prophet was unlettered , couldnt speak nor write ! Moreso , if all the science in the quran is said to be plagiarized from ancient greeks (who beleived in all that greek mythology) and other civilizations then you can expect such work to contain more errors , as you notice with scientific history where ideas are picked up from predecessors and corrected or improved upon but this is not the case with Quran ! There is not a single scientific statement in Quran that contradicts science ! I have posted testament from all those emminent scientist previously ! And apart from your 'Aristarchus' there are other spectacles of science such as embryonic develepment within the womb,the science of the bees and honey, the water cycle etc all conveyed in precise and poetic language !
Well lets examine 'this ferrari'.Starting with the 4 Noble Truths :
1.Life means suffering.(Life as we know it ultimately is or leads to suffering/uneasiness )
2.The origin of suffering is attachment.(Suffering is caused by craving)
3.Suffering ends when craving ends.
4.Reaching this liberated state(the end of the cycle of rebirth or nirvana)
How is this not a pessimistic approach to life ? To sum it all up , to live is to suffer , to desire is to suffer and we should not be attached to anything or 'anyone' for that matter ! You can only stop this suffering when you comepletely dont want anything from this world and immune to any desires and the ultimate reward for detaching yourself from this world (even all that is good in this world) is that you will perish into nothing (attaining nirvana)
Sweet is not sweet without sour , that does not mean people do not taste the sweet nor does it mean that tasting the sweet is not worth it ! You are saying is that desiring for even the good things in this world like loving some one , loving to do charity , engage in social work , having family and such will eventually lead to suffering so its not worth it !
Besides if you are to crave for nirvana then that also is a desire ! And to have that desire is also an 'attachment' ! Contradiction ! So by theory you can never really attain nirvana for as long as you have the desire for it !
If your not supposed to have desires then this goes against the very innate nature of human beings and not coherent with 'humanology' if you want to call it that! No matter how hard some one 'works' no one will be able to achieve that because to want to 'perish' is also a desire !
Wasnt it based on the above 4 rules that Budha decided to leave his wife and new born child and go and seek nirvana ? So we are to see by this example that our family,parents as 'bondage' and abandon our social,personal obligations and responsibilities in pursuit to ultimately perish to nothingness !
Theres more questions but lets address that for now
Well i rest my case then ! I take it by your budhist principles stated above that to object to tyranny such as (LTTE , China , Occupying forces) will only cause more suffering and more violence so we just have to be push overs lay back and forgive whatever they do to us , our women , our children and our land and no such thing called as defence!
May I ask how this will prevent more violence if the violent continue to be violent !? If no one stops or tries to stop tyranny , this just opens up the roads to more violence !
I also want to ask what the point of a whole judicial system is, if by your principles we should not 'take any action' and let criminals run loose because to fight back is wrong !
ආ ඔයාට සින්හල පුලුව්න්ද?
කව්ද zakir ,doctor කෙනෙක් කිව්වෙ!
ඔගොල්ලොනම් නම් ගොන් උත්තර අහගෙන උඩ බලගෙන කට ඇරගෙන ඉදියි!
zakir අවිල්ලා condoctor කෙනෙක් !
එක තෙරෙන්නෙ නත්නම් නැවත නැවත youtube video බලන්න!
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Now where is this elusive evidence? Please quote from Medline that "House fly carries antidotes to all the pathological bacteria it carries"
As far as I know, flies don't carry anti-dotes. That's why they spread disease.
And let's see the stupidity of the claim too
Now what happens if the wing that touched the drink was having the anti-dote? How can you identify which wing has the anti-dote? In that case why dip it fully and add the pathogens too?
This statement is a joke. And I once again challenge to show the particular research letter from medline or any other reputed medical research site.
http://abc.gov.au/science/articles/2002/10/01/689400.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15462958
"Drosophila males transfer antibacterial proteins from their accessory gland and ejaculatory duct to their mates Purchase the full-text article
References and further reading may be available for this article. To view references and further reading you must purchase this article.
O. Lung1, a, L. Kuoa and M.F. WolfnerCorresponding Author Contact Information, a, E-mail The Corresponding Author
Department of Molecular Biology and Genetics, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853, USA
Received 7 July 2000;
accepted 25 October 2000.
Available online 8 March 2001.
Abstract
The male fruitfly, Drosophila melanogaster, transfers to his mate proteins that increase his reproductive success by causing changes in her behavior and physiology. Here we show that among the transferred proteins are ones with antibacterial activity. We performed Escherichia coli overlay assays of native PAGE or renatured SDS–PAGE of reproductive tissue extracts of wild-type or transgenic males deficient in accessory gland function. We detected a 28 kDa male accessory gland-derived protein and two ejaculatory duct-derived proteins all with antibacterial activity. Based on its gel mobility and tissue of synthesis, one of the ejaculatory duct proteins is likely to be andropin, a previously-reported 6 kDa antibacterial peptide. All three proteins are transferred to females during mating. Therefore, they could assist in protecting the male's reproductive tract and, after transfer to the female, the female's reproductive tract or eggs against bacterial infection. Since seminal fluid proteins are transferred before the sperm, these antibacterial proteins may also protect sperm from bacterial infection.
Keywords: Antibacterial; Antimicrobial; Reproduction; Seminal fluid; Andropin" (Source)
"Brazilian Journal of Microbiology
Print version ISSN 1517-8382
Braz. J. Microbiol. vol.39 no.2 São Paulo Apr./June 2008
doi: 10.1590/S1517-83822008000200035
VETERINARY MICROBIOLOGY
Antibacterial activities of multi drug resistant Myroides odoratimimus bacteria isolated from adult flesh flies (Diptera: Sarcophagidae) are independent of metallo beta-lactamase gene" (Source)
In other words you have no idea why Allah created us!
You believe that its his choice and we are to just sit quiet, do as he says and see what happens next?
If that's fine with you then so be it.. but it still doesn't answer the question WHY?
As long as that WHY is not answered there is this possibility that Allah may never be an Omnipotent god as he claims to be.. he hides the truth from his followers... ask them to worship him but doesn't show the underlying cause!
A word about the "dipping fly theory"..
Can you give me a reference to a reliable scientific journal that says bacteriophages = antidotes ?
Referring to the verse again...
Also can you prove that Fly carry germs and pathogens in its WINGS!
They are known to carry germs on their feet, abdomen area, saliva... even if a fly carry germs in wings those are the least of the parts to worry about, if there's any part of the body worth mentioning it should be feet first, NOT wings!
Also... lets say a fly carries X number of germs and Y number of bacteriophages, when you immerse the fly what guarantee you have you will get enough bacteriophages in the food to nullify the threat of germs it leaves behind? what if its NOT enough and by dipping you are only adding more and more germs?
Since there's no time frame attached vise versa you cannot say its not 24 hours too... simple as that!
If its 10pm and If I still see daylight then night is delayed! then what you do mean by..
This is the problem.. too many ambiguous words!
Allah has been biased towards Arabs, only revealing the Quran in Arabic.. why?
1. If this is the case then any Muslim who doesn't know Arabic is not really a genuine Muslim for he or she will never be able to see the Quran as a Arabic does!
2. Then what's the purpose of having all these certifications for Quran translation around? they all must be a total joke then!
Which one would like to accept?
It's not too hard to understand what am I saying if you look at it logically!
Allah says he created "....7 of the earth there of", and you telling me those are the layers of the earth.. fine!
Prophet says... people who does unjust will sink 7 earths below, means beneath the point we are standing!
Now.. however metaphorical, prophet thinks sending some 7 earths below is a punishment.. sure it cannot be a good thing because he meant it as a punishment for evil people!
Taking that into consideration, we can come to the conclusion that Allah and his 7 layers beneath cannot definitely be heaven, because that would contradict with prophet sending evil men down there then!
Therefore... my question.. what exactly is "7 of the earth's thereof"? you telling me its not hell... it sure cannot be heaven.. 7 other planets? where?
Are you arguing with me about the planet count of our Solar system?
Scientists will always have disputes.. that's how it's suppose to be, that's how Science progresses..
We should be thankful that they don't say "god knows best" and do nothing
The important question is what's the conclusion of the scientific community in whole based on scientific evidence!
From NASA
If you dont want to believe then Quran should have a better explanation about all these planets and all those 146 moons and dwarf planets etc. and most of all how does Quran or Allah define a planet.. then you can worry about scientists disputes!
Dude.. Aristarchus invented the theory of Heliocentrism before 230BC NOT Johannes Kepler nor Isaac Newton, the only thing they did was build upon that..
What matters here most is that the idea of EARTH ORBITING SUN wasn't new! it exsisted 800 years BEFORE prophet discovered it... ACCEPT IT! ITS A FACT!!!
How to believe in Greek Mythology? Are you mad?
It's full of gods does Islam believes in any other god other than Allah?Infact Allah is like all Greek gods combined
you are not making any sense here bro! Prophet cannot plagiarise greek mythology even if he wanted to.. then that would totally be incompatible with one almighty god!
About bees!
Bees do not eat fruits... they feed on nectar!
Allah should know better! About water cycle... where in Quran it says that water evaporates into air at some point... as we know this is a main part of the water cycle!
First of all... I hope asking all these questions about Buddhism is for your knowledge, at least I hope it's for that purpose because even if Buddhism is wrong that doesn't make Islam right, I think you are smart enough to figure that out!
Anyway... the answer to your question is... YES to attain Nirvana you must have a craving for it.. yet only until you get there... I saw in thread somewhere "Wal Bada" has given an answer about Nirvana, your life is like a boat you use it to get you to the other side, once you are there... there's no need to carry the boat!
In Samayutta Nikaya it is mentioned that Ven. Ananda was asked once the same question.. he answers when you want to go somewhere... say "to a park" you think about it till you achieve it... but after you get there... the desire is no more you've archived the target, at first you persist with it once you are there... the thought is no more!
Same goes to NIRVANA, you persist with it.. till you get it you crave for it.. BUT ONLY THIS TIME... THERE WILL BE NO MORE CRAVING AFTER THAT!
If everyone stops violence then there would be no violence!
What's the whole point of judicial system? Look at Sri Lanka for an example what if few years back we said we are not going to WAR or harm any LTTE terrorists and they can do whatever they wish, we honor Buddhist principals... now.. will that be fair to people of other faiths? then you would say we don't want any Buddhist principals we are not Buddhist why should we die? seems fair to me!
Whatever Buddhists think... we need a Judicial system to bring all people into one platform first.. unless some god magically appears and turn all of us to follow him!
Having said that... we should also get rid of Judicial systems based upon religions... like Shariah Law... else implement those laws only to people of that faith!
Someone being a Buddhist and standing in a Shariah court as an accused against a Muslim... is not justice because the court itself going to rule the case according to Islam rules and the accused will have no trust in the court because the court itself is already biased towards Islam!
A religion can never be a Judicial system, at least not in a multicultural society.. a true Judicial system cannot be built upon something that only a part of the community believes, it should always be neutral!
Sorry, it prove ABSOLUTELY nothing. What I want is proof of it has antidotes for HUMAN PATHOGENS. Those antibacterial properties are for the FLY pathogens to protect the FLY.
The House fly is Musca domestica, not Drosophila (fruit fly). So don't lie and twist the facts. Prove that Musca domstica has antidotes against human pathogens like Vibrio cholerea, Shigella or Enterovirus. Otherwise you are an epic fail.
Even the blindest of Zakir Naik followers will be shaken by this blatant lying and hypocrisy
Especially see 0:40 - 0:55
Especially see 0:40 - 0:55
Even the blindest of Zakir Naik followers will be shaken by this blatant lying and hypocrisy
Especially see 0:40 - 0:55
I dont know how one could trust this, what those men say is in arabic, and the translation goes in English as subtitles, do we know whether thats EXACTLY what they are saying in their language?
The part from 0.40-0.55 , Zakir Naik's statement of "Every muslim should be a terrorist" .. Why dont you find that whole part of the speech to see what exactly he was talking about? It could have been some sentence that he quoted from someone.. or something that involves figurative speech.. This video does not disprove nor prove anything.
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