LTTE's War in x-pert's point of view.

[Sujakshan]

macho..!!
mama methana Terrorism or Racism gaena kathakaranna nemei me Post eka dhaemme......!!

 

[Sujakshan]

That's the known... shanX is also Tamil neda machang...?

and... hmmm.... Teron kiyala ekek innawa.... And balamuko... mole thiyena koti patiyek wath awilla mokak hari kiyayida kiyala...

http://eelam.com/tamil_eelam.html
menna macho........!!

 

[just]

Once again wrong. If huger can kick on your ass and can you make un-patriotic you are in a big way a hypocrite, to put it mildly. Patritism peas during the time of difficulties.

hmm let me see then..

reasons for my patriotism to go up...

1. we are killing and they are killing (i can see the meter springing)..
2. cost of essential goods, baby food, medicine, oil... skyrocketing
3. media...well burn them right..(or else there's always good old uncle mervin)
4. no of parliment ministeres still counting (also their size, some seems almost they dont have a neck)
5. personnel expenses of them the numbers i dont even know
6. president is like not from this country
7. minorities are more pissed cos people cant here them talking even (political voices being shut)
8. taxes (hmmm can i goto to washroom in peace now
...and the list goes

buddy patriotism is saving the country last time i checked.where do u think the country would end up going like this...getting rid of terrorism is a good thing for all as sri lankans.but if we say patriots and watch watever circus they showing in the name of war...thats i dont know wat but not patriotism for sure.

im glad people atleast quate pieces of post and unswer them upto the point..

but its good if they can give a whole answer to the problem as well, for all to get an idea of their view..

 

[sri_lion]

hmm let me see then..

reasons for my patriotism to go up...

1. we are killing and they are killing (i can see the meter springing)..
2. cost of essential goods, baby food, medicine, oil... skyrocketing
3. media...well burn them right..(or else there's always good old uncle mervin)
4. no of parliment ministeres still counting (also their size, some seems almost they dont have a neck)
5. personnel expenses of them the numbers i dont even know

only this government?

6. president is like not from this country

I dont understand what you mean here!!

7. minorities are more pissed cos people cant here them talking even (political voices being shut)

1. Majority of the minority Tamils are on the front lines of the WAR, their voices shut down by LTTE

2. Colombo Tamil politicians will be dead if they voice... again you know who!!

3. This only apply to Tamils not all minority

I'm not ruling out Tamils does not have any problems in Sri Lanka, they do!

But why? largely due to the fact that the Terrorist themselves consist of Tamils..

When government arrest some Tamil, they shout that Tamils rights were violated! Without questioning suspects how do we know whether he / she involved in it or not? Its not written on the forehead that he/she a terrorist!! Besides its Tamils who are involved in LTTE so whom do we arrest? We are not arresting Tamils because we wanna genocide all of them.. we arrest for others protection including Sinhalese and Muslims (Sri Lankans)

Tamils do face difficulties, so does Arab Muslims in western countries not because they are truly guilty but its just some terrorists happens to be Muslim Extremists!

Although I admit one thing... Sri Lankans specially Sinhalese attitude towards Tamils must be changed.. for good! This though cannot be achieved only by Sinhalese alone, Tamils will have to reject EELAM and Terrorism all together! ITS THE ONLY WAY!!

8. taxes (hmmm can i goto to washroom in peace now
...and the list goes

again.... only this government?

buddy patriotism is saving the country last time i checked.where do u think the country would end up going like this...getting rid of terrorism is a good thing for all as sri lankans.but if we say patriots and watch watever circus they showing in the name of war...thats i dont know wat but not patriotism for sure.

So according to your theory, you will only be patriotic if all off above conditions are met? for one thing then I understand your concern and you were never a patriot because we always had these problems, the other thing is you will never be!!

im glad people atleast quate pieces of post and unswer them upto the point..

I did quote your post, I didn't miss a single letter in it though so please don't freak out next time!

but its good if they can give a whole answer to the problem as well, for all to get an idea of their view..

Wake up! this is our answer and what we and the majority of Sri Lanka believes the only answer to the problem.... read the topic.... a WAR for Terrorist and bring them down on their knees and take it from there!!!

Its not because we love violence or anything, its because we have tried every other thing already and realized BEAST IS AFTER ALL A BEAST IT ONLY KNOWS HOW TO BITE!!

So you are the one that oppose to all this.... so we'd like to hear your plan! as in how do you maintain the 8 things you mentioned and still wage WAR on terrorists to save our country?

 

[just]

Although I admit one thing... Sri Lankans specially Sinhalese attitude towards Tamils must be changed.. for good!

i just thought of quating cos this is the first time you admitted that. i hope you dont feel down about it.becouse thats a good thing...if ppl realise their mistakes and be careful that not to let them happen again world will improve even in small steps.

also i dont need to justify anything i put here. its the fact if u goto road that i know.

i did put my view in the 1st post i did for this thread clear and simple.


if you need it again in points:

- terrorist should be answrerd in their way clear agreed

- at same time interest should be put to see wat the cause of the problem..
i dont see thats being done cos recently minorities feel unsafe (muslims and tamils specially) abductions, killing, ransom , political leaders assasinated, specially government seems playing a role (taking off Maheshwarans,hakeems etc security)
- also the other common factors effecting all sri lankan
you asking these things never happened? ok so i assume you saying thats normal?
do u know the number of cabinet n non cabinet ministers here?
do you no the their expences are from majority of poor people?
and still do you know they r getting the pay and warming their asses?
do you know how many of them openly being thugs here?
do you know what their sons doing?
do you know what happened to all tsunami reliefe money that came here?
its like government is full with thugs not decent ministers.

can you name one minister in our cabinet who we can say honest from heart?

dream on buddy for the new sri lanka...while all the ministers get fat n poor public die in hunger.

long live the patriots

 

[sri_lion]

i just thought of quating cos this is the first time you admitted that. i hope you dont feel down about it.becouse thats a good thing...if ppl realise their mistakes and be careful that not to let them happen again world will improve even in small steps.

also i dont need to justify anything i put here. its the fact if u goto road that i know.

i did put my view in the 1st post i did for this thread clear and simple.


if you need it again in points:

- terrorist should be answrerd in their way clear agreed

- at same time interest should be put to see wat the cause of the problem..
i dont see thats being done cos recently minorities feel unsafe (muslims and tamils specially) abductions, killing, ransom , political leaders assasinated, specially government seems playing a role (taking off Maheshwarans,hakeems etc security)
- also the other common factors effecting all sri lankan
you asking these things never happened? ok so i assume you saying thats normal?
do u know the number of cabinet n non cabinet ministers here?
do you no the their expences are from majority of poor people?
and still do you know they r getting the pay and warming their asses?
do you know how many of them openly being thugs here?
do you know what their sons doing?
do you know what happened to all tsunami reliefe money that came here?
its like government is full with thugs not decent ministers.

can you name one minister in our cabinet who we can say honest from heart?

dream on buddy for the new sri lanka...while all the ministers get fat n poor public die in hunger.

long live the patriots

YES! I admit that Sinhalese attitude towards Tamils are not very good.. but there's a reason for that and its not a mistake! Ancient times Tamils and Sinhalese lived peacefully.. until under British thier sarcasm grew in huge proportions up to the point that they thought they could rule this nation after British gone or with them!!

Trust was broken! So did the attitude of Sinhalese towards Tamils! It must change but it must be mutual!!!

Let the law and order decide who's guilty and who's not because neither you nor me know whether government really killing politicians or not, if you have proof you can make a case against the govt. please be my guest.. if you don't, then don't simply BLIND BASH!! beside.... if UNP really knows govt. did those things then why dont they make a case! Maybe they killed their own party member and put the blame on govt. who knows.. that's a possibility too!!

So lets not talk or let our imagination run wild about what we do not know and stick to the topic of WAR between SRI LANKANS vs. Terrorism!

So you are saying these dirty politics never happened in Sri Lanka?

When UNP ruled...

- They never had thugs?
- Inflation never was an issue?
- All of their sons were calm and quiet?
- All of their ministers were decent and honest?
- No corruption what so ever?
- Ministers were kept their body in shape??

C'mon bro! bring some proper argument!! what is this? isn't this what was happening all the time? and YES!! IT IS NORMAL in Sri Lanka.. is it NOT?

I'm not any political party's slave or fan or a supporter.. But you talk like current govt. invented all these and you've never even seen them before!!

I personally think you have a personal grudge against Mahinda Rajapakse's govt. if so then tell your problem straight.. we'll discuss about that.. your single opinion does not represent every one elses... besides a govt. is decided by the majority of the people..... whom they feel the best for the job! If everybody thinks the way you think then , oh! my god! then there's no one left whom eligible to rule this country! Is there anyone? or any Party?

According to you.. you don't have enough money or time to be a Patriot!! then what about those boys who are dying for the county's honor at the forefronts of the WAR? do they have enough money and time that they willing to die for it?

 

[just]

ok i'll keep my opinion a side...and try to understand what you trying to say...

wipe off the terrorists and problem finished..OR until each and every tamil (or sihalese) is wiped off this island this wont finish..(i just hope you want say not every tamil is terrorist again..if you do pls tell me how you gonna recognize)

also maybe then the muslims then burgergs etc...you actually didnt answer this point

"at same time interest should be put to see wat the cause of the problem..
i dont see thats being done cos recently minorities feel unsafe (muslims and tamils specially) abductions, killing, ransom , political leaders assasinated, specially government seems playing a role (taking off Maheshwarans,hakeems etc security)"

so your answer is poilitics (UNP,PA,JVP...etc) it was like that is like that and will be like that (or maybe should be like that for you )...? is that what you telling.

as for the majority support for the government, then i dont think government has to buy MP's, threaten Them, keep ppl who went into media and kikced jusrnalist with drug leaders and murderers publicly..just to get a budget passed.

i have no personnel grudge with mahinda uncle, he's cool. and which president gave us a budget airline tell me? maybe you can take it when u fly next time.the money will benefit the country..cos "me ahasa ape"

but again it'll be safe in kuala lampur itself..

 

[sri_lion]

Half of what you asked I've already commented go back and read previous posts!

ok i'll keep my opinion a side...and try to understand what you trying to say...

wipe off the terrorists and problem finished..OR until each and every tamil (or sihalese) is wiped off this island this wont finish..(i just hope you want say not every tamil is terrorist again..if you do pls tell me how you gonna recognize)

also maybe then the muslims then burgergs etc...you actually didnt answer this point

then again I'd like to reiterate this!

1. WAR is not the ultimate solution, (everybody knows it )
2. WAR is A PART of it
3. We wage WAR to make Terrorists weak and bring them to the table!
4. We have already try talking without fighting, but talking or not still people and politicians in south get murdered by LTTE.

I did not say all Tamils are Terrorists, I said LTTE consists of TAMILS.. is it not true?

Muslims and other minority does not opt for Terrorism, so they do not have issues that Tamils have!

If you are saying they have major issues then be specific, tell us what specific issues these minorities have, that Sinhalese doesn't have? We would like to know!

FOR YOUR INFORMATION....AND AS A FACT..... NOWHERE IN THE WORLD A MINORITY IS FULLY SATISFIED BY ITS GOVERNMENT'S ACTIONS!!!

TELL ME IF THERE'S ANY COUNTRY THAT MINORITY NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH MAJORITY SELECTED GOVT.

"at same time interest should be put to see wat the cause of the problem..
i dont see thats being done cos recently minorities feel unsafe (muslims and tamils specially) abductions, killing, ransom , political leaders assasinated, specially government seems playing a role (taking off Maheshwarans,hakeems etc security)"

We already discussed the cause of the problem!

Sinhalese feel unsafe too! Both in South and especially in North!

"govt. seems to be playing a role"? so you are not sure either?!!

NOT GOOD ENOUGH

as I said earlier if you have proof please say so!! We also would like to know! because you are the one who's accusing!!!

and tell us in your opinion what should govt. do to make minority happy or to put it your way answer the "cause of the problem"!!! (still waiting for your answer)

so your answer is poilitics (UNP,PA,JVP...etc) it was like that is like that and will be like that (or maybe should be like that for you )...? is that what you telling.

Is it NOT?

as for the majority support for the government, then i dont think government has to buy MP's, threaten Them, keep ppl who went into media and kikced jusrnalist with drug leaders and murderers publicly..just to get a budget passed.

So your earlier argument is invalid then... so after all its not MP's from this govt. only who accept money and pass over!

I ask you again! tell then whom do we elect? RANIL?

i have no personnel grudge with mahinda uncle, he's cool. and which president gave us a budget airline tell me? maybe you can take it when u fly next time.the money will benefit the country..cos "me ahasa ape"

Infact I think Sri Lankan airlines acquired by the govt. is also better! Now no need to pay 40% to an outsider!

but again it'll be safe in kuala lampur itself..

Totally irrelevant!!!

 

[just]

ok let me break down this so that others also can have an idea.

terrorrism should be fought militarily you dont have to prove that in 4 points buddy even i told that in my first post.if you din read or understand it, then im sorry

if otherwise maybe you can quate and prove.

so all this time what you were trying was prove im wrong in other two points;

1. govenments human rights media freedom and no proper economic management..etc
2. govenment not putting enough effort to win minorities who were expecting to get a good life as every sri lankan can and should.

first you seems to be need solid evidents for every single thing.

first if a govenment want everyone to know directly that its doing such things then it will be without doubt the govenment thats with most stupid people in the world.so arguments are based on reasonable doubts that we come into with facts we thats available.

maybe you have been out of SL for pretty long you dont know these facts.

even still you insist on evidence ill just ask you to prove these two facts with evidents if you can ill step down.these were arguments that you used.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION....AND AS A FACT..... NOWHERE IN THE WORLD A MINORITY IS FULLY SATISFIED BY ITS GOVERNMENT'S ACTIONS!!!

TELL ME IF THERE'S ANY COUNTRY THAT MINORITY NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH MAJORITY SELECTED GOVT.

ok shall i start listing countries will you prove with evidents that they have or had problems with monorities?

also once elected its not a govenment of majority or minority, all of them citizens thus it cant see them in differennt eyes. so even if you prove that each and every country i list has the issue (i mean IF YOU PROVE) still one cant make it an excuse.isnt it collecting taxes from all of them???
(you seems confusing this point, cos you talking about MAJORITY elected govenment often)


ok my two points:

1.solid evidence of govenments shutting of media.
in case if you dont know this is video of our labour minister going into state media with a murderer and a heroin dealer to kick a director whome didnt out what he wanted in TV.check it out here http://www.sendspace.com/file/tql4pv

and the enoumerous public support could be seen their.including as far as i know the first time a minister has been publicly called P****ya,and squeezed his balls (now i know why his face was like that poor gamunu).for your info no action has been taken against him but also his still the minister.

i can show you more videos of how he's behaving in public with utter filth in his mouth towards media.you want more? with a guy like "DOCTOR" Mervin silva in the cabinet you get things that you never think you can.so thanks to him i have solid evidence

human rights i can get you the letters, media relieses that of human civil right groups local and international have sent govenments to stop its hard policies and hunting down of political enemies.you want them?

if you saying this happened before as well.ya thats why ppl kicked them and mandated a new govenment (anyways thats a real silly argument buudy)

ok economy will just assum its not very controlable with world situation. but still we dont need a minister to make statements like..

"gas went up i cant help.."
"bread oh is it gone up??? i din know that"
"life is hard...but we cant do anything"
oh god and we have a cabinet of 110+ all luxaries with our taxes just to make statements ...



2.evidents of minority issue.
T.maheshwaran security was taken off before he was shot dead.maybe we dont know who shot him.but based on facts we can have reasonable doubts.several parties have directly accoused president and government including JVP of this murder...

and for your info he represented minority, he was democratically elected and he did talk about their rights.also rauff hakeems security was taken off cos he voted against budget. and in local election in east they say their lifes are thretened without security but government seems deaf.so why should government treat democractic leaders of minority like this if they dont have an issue with them? they've not taken any government ministers or even MP's security off..isnt this double standards?



also you know why you being there and i being here is relevant?

cos if a a guy whose effected with this govenments two spoon policy gets dissapointed, looses confident and decided to take down whose responsible.im sure you are safe and sound than me. in a way that gives me more right as the person who will have to face the consequences.

i'd like if you can answer based on these two points and arguments

 

[DJ.Parker]

thoughtful replies.... pls continue

 

[just]

thoughtful replies.... pls continue

thanks man

 

[x-pert]

Looks like Teron

 

[sri_lion]

first if a govenment want everyone to know directly that its doing such things then it will be without doubt the govenment thats with most stupid people in the world.so arguments are based on reasonable doubts that we come into with facts we thats available.

Exactly!! so what are we arguing here? I'm saying the same thing!! So come back and argue when the facts are found!!!

ok shall i start listing countries will you prove with evidents that they have or had problems with monorities?

Go ahead!! Any multi-racial country, with a substantial amount of ethnicity (or similar to what Sri Lanka have) would do!!!

There's bound to be problems!! We have EK members all around the world let them tell the situations / issues of those countries!!! Would be a great opportunity!!

also once elected its not a govenment of majority or minority, all of them citizens thus it cant see them in differennt eyes. so even if you prove that each and every country i list has the issue (i mean IF YOU PROVE) still one cant make it an excuse.isnt it collecting taxes from all of them???
(you seems confusing this point, cos you talking about MAJORITY elected govenment often)

YES! In theory!! but in which country is it practical?

And if you talk about it democratically..... then democratically people will get what they deserve, power will be disseminate accordingly!! And then I'm asking democratically what the minority in SL does not have that the other have?

About the TAXES!! If Colombo collects higher TAXES than Jafna, Colombo residents will benefit more than Jafna! What's that gotta do with Minority Majority?

Besides, who pay more TAXES? 70% Sinhalese or the REST? Like I said, Sinhalese are the driving force of Sri Lanka they account for the majority of the economic development of the country and rightly so they will benefit mostly and have better lives... what's that gotta do with Majority Minority?

Dont get confused among legislation rights and sheer numbers!!

ok let me break down this so that others also can have an idea.

terrorrism should be fought militarily you dont have to prove that in 4 points buddy even i told that in my first post.if you din read or understand it, then im sorry

if otherwise maybe you can quate and prove.

so all this time what you were trying was prove im wrong in other two points;

1. govenments human rights media freedom and no proper economic management..etc
2. govenment not putting enough effort to win minorities who were expecting to get a good life as every sri lankan can and should.

ok my two points:

1.solid evidence of govenments shutting of media.
in case if you dont know this is video of our labour minister going into state media with a murderer and a heroin dealer to kick a director whome didnt out what he wanted in TV.check it out here http://www.sendspace.com/file/tql4pv

and the enoumerous public support could be seen their.including as far as i know the first time a minister has been publicly called P****ya,and squeezed his balls (now i know why his face was like that poor gamunu).for your info no action has been taken against him but also his still the minister.

i can show you more videos of how he's behaving in public with utter filth in his mouth towards media.you want more? with a guy like "DOCTOR" Mervin silva in the cabinet you get things that you never think you can.so thanks to him i have solid evidence

Dude!! AGAIN!!!! What are you trying to prove here?? I never said govt. is not trying to curb media!! All I'm saying there's no such thing as a perfect govt.

Ok this is what I want to know from you!! Tell me this!

1. Is it only this govt. that tried to curb media? Yes or No
2. If "YES" then you are utterly wrong.. You need proof? I can give you
3. If "No"

Ask yourself, have you always concerned for these kind of issues whatever govt. was in power?

if "YES"

Then good.. I salute you!!! You are an unbiased man whom always stood by what you believed!!

then my question..

What do you think we should do about it? I wanna hear your plan!!!

Maybe then we can discuss / argue whether your plan is a viable solution or not!!

if "NO"

Then you are MUD SLINGING only at current govt. which makes you AN ANTI-RAJAPAKSE!!!

SO YOU CHOOSE!!!


There's no point you arguing with me over this.. My only argument with you is currently WAR is the only solution for the Sri Lanka vs. LTTE issue!!

You agreed!! and that's it!!

As for Mervin Silva and his Son and his thugs!! I'm with you! I hate them too!!

And FYI... media is not perfect either!! Switch on a radio around mid night.. can you listen to those (sex) stories with your child? and go on a bus at that time!!! I mean you are sooooo in SL you should be talking about these thing too right? A media like "SIRASA" who earn from Sri Lankans can say "Tamilselvan Mahatha"? Even CNN doesn't call "Mr.Bin Laden"!!!

That's by the way is "Mr." would suit any hypocrite.... but this is "Mahatha" which breaks down to "Maha+Uththamaya" in Sinhalese!!!

Either SIRASA does not know Sinhalese in which case what good a media station which does not know county's national language!! else they do it purposely which is.... TREASON and Playing with people's thoughts!! Another example!! you dont have to go that far... just yesterday.. LTTE has released a statement saying they need the CFA back and they will obey 100% this time!!! How many Sri Lankans know this? Members of this forum will witness that yesterday they heard in Media saying LTTE made a statement that they are ready for war, since govt. is asking for it!!!

So this is the Media for you? Then I can say Media violated human rights too!! Our rights to know the truth!!!

2.evidents of minority issue.
T.maheshwaran security was taken off before he was shot dead.maybe we dont know who shot him.but based on facts we can have reasonable doubts.several parties have directly accoused president and government including JVP of this murder...and for your info he represented minority, he was democratically elected and he did talk about their rights.

YES! I don't see any mis use of power here... Like you said we don't know who shot him, and according to law and order a case in the process.... and in this case witnesses were not being able to recognize the killer either.. right??

Again.. I understand reasonable doubts.. but you and I both know innocent or guilty depends on the conclusion upon the facts collected, Not only Maheswaran incident every crime has more than 1 suspects if there's no witness!!! as in his case even witness failed him!!

And democratically justice is being done for him.. his killers or suspects under trial now.. so what the issue? Reducing security doesnt mean that anyone will get killed then like you said Rauf Hakeem's security also reduced and he still alive!!

Last time Premadasa was accused of mass murder too.. did they ever find any evidence to support the theory, Ranil was linked to Batalanda but he still at large..so how can people believe in these MUD SLINGING anymore??

So we do not know who killed him yet.. and that's the basis for your minority problem.. so you can't really classify what problem it is without knowing who the killer belong to!! If the killer belongs to LTTE then this is no more a minority problem its a terrorist problem!!

If you need me to comment on minority problems you need to find specific problems that each minority has as Tamils, Muslims etc. that Sinalese does not have!! (if Sinhalese have the same problem it wouldn't be only a problem for minority.. would it?)

Then we'll talk!!

also rauff hakeems security was taken off cos he voted against budget. and in local election in east they say their lifes are thretened without security but government seems deaf.so why should government treat democractic leaders of minority like this if they dont have an issue with them? they've not taken any government ministers or even MP's security off..isnt this double standards?

Persoanlly.. I really DONT CARE ABOUT Rauf Hakeem... I WISH IF HE IS DEAD!!

Because he not only mis used his own people's trust he also sold every Sri Lankan when he paid his condolences to "Tamilselvan", you are in SL.. you should know what he said!! or you want me to remind you?

If he at least remember the Kattankudi Muslim Mosque Massacre in August 1990 which LTTE killed over 100 Muslims while they were praying inside a holy mosque!!

And he pay condolances to LTTE? WHAT A SHAME!!!

HE IS AS GOOD AS A TERRORIST TO ME!!!

Now who is having double standards?

 

[sri_lion]

Looks like Teron

only GT knows!

 

[sri_lion]

human rights i can get you the letters, media relieses that of human civil right groups local and international have sent govenments to stop its hard policies and hunting down of political enemies.you want them?

Sorry I seem to have missed this part from your reply...


So about human rights!! if there were suppose to look at human rights then they must look at human rights!! Then I'm sure they looked at Sinhalese rights too!! So you can post those evidence and we'll see how fair they really are!!!

Besides you already agreed that WAR is the only and current solution for the problem (according to the earlier 4 points)!! But do you remember these human rights org. / NGOs protested when govt. try to make WAR? Which is now we both have agreed is the solution (Man!! you are the one in SL you should remember these)!! So they were obstructing the solution! which side are you now?

if you saying this happened before as well.ya thats why ppl kicked them and mandated a new govenment (anyways thats a real silly argument buudy)

Oh! then why worry? people wil make another govt.

ok economy will just assum its not very controlable with world situation. but still we dont need a minister to make statements like..

"gas went up i cant help.."
"bread oh is it gone up??? i din know that"
"life is hard...but we cant do anything"
oh god and we have a cabinet of 110+ all luxaries with our taxes just to make statements ...

Agreed! then again I've heard them before!! I remember once Srimani Athulathmudali answered to a question by a journalist "Why the trains are late?"

She said there are COWS on the tracks!!

and also like Ranil went to Polonnaruwa and promised farmers that he'll replace "BULATHWITA" with "CHEWING GUM"

So Nothing new.. unless you have a solution for it!! Well... I don't !!

About the Luxury lives of Ministers... again, nothing new and they've always had thier privileges, but people also seems to have forgotten that they also can face the most ruthless death anywhere anytime... so there are risks too!!!

WAR is the solution and you know it I know it.. current govt.'s time not over yet and it will have to maintain this until either their time is over or the WAR is over! If govt. loses out people losing out as well.... the elections which will cost more... and most of all economy will further go down because of the political instability!! with far reaching consequences!! Which at the peak of the WAR makes it much more harder!! etc. etc.

So in order to address the bigger problem, everybody has to make some sacrifices!! Like they have been for 25 years!!! You can argue on this but you'll end up just doing that!!

 

[uhox]

onna me topic ekata adala info tikak denawa...Meka PRO ltte PROFESSOR kenek liyapu ekak...LTTE eke vikashanaya gena

Pirapaharan, Chapter 15
JR Visits China and the US

by T. Sabaratnam

(Volume 2)

The Chunnakam Massacre

Trade and Shipping Minister Lalith Athulathmudali was appointed Minister of National Security and Deputy Defence Minister on 23 March 1984. An Oxford educated lawyer-politician with an unbridled ambition to succeed Jayewardene as the president of Sri Lanka, Athulathmudali took the appointment as the gateway to realize his desire. He plunged into the task of destroying the Tamil armed struggle with enthusiasm and demonstrated to the Sinhala masses that he was the real reincarnate of Dutugemunu, the ancient Sinhala King who defeated the Tamil monarch Elara and reinstated the Sinhala dominance.

Sinhala politics of the 1980s should be understood to place the anti-Tamil activities of the Jayewardene regime in the correct context and perspective. Athulathmudali, Mahaweli and Lands Minister Gamini Dissanayake and Ranasinghe Premadasa were competing to succeed Jayewardene, whose second six-year term of office would end in 1988. They were competing to present themselves as the best Sinhala nationalist leader.

Gamini Dissanayake had already chosen his role as the minister who implemented Jayewardene’s third policy track of destroying the basis for Tamil Eelam, the claim for a Tamil homeland. Premadasa had taken upon himself the role of denying the Tamil demand for an autonomous federal region. Athulathmudali had now received the opening to present himself before the Sinhala electorate as the leader who destroyed the Tamil freedom struggle, which he and Jayewardene called Tamil terrorism.

Athulathmudali got into the act soon after being appointed. He summoned a top level conference of service and police chiefs soon after he took over the new posts at the Defence Ministry. He invited me to cover the function and the conference. He announced at the conclusion of the conference, "Tomorrow we are going to Jaffna. President Jayewardene had given me two specific tasks. The first task is to defeat terrorism. The second is to transform the ceremonial military into a fighting force. We cannot fulfill those tasks sitting here in Colombo. We will go to the scene of the battle. Tomorrow morning we will be working out our strategy to defeat terrorism from Jaffna."

I decided to opt out of the press corps that accompanied Athulathmudali to Jaffna. I told him that the usual defence reporter would fly with him to Jaffna. I told him that I would continue to cover his trade and shipping ministry and the All Party Conference (APC), which had been sitting at the BMICH since January 1984. I told him that, being a Tamil, I would be looked at with suspicion by the military and that, being a Jaffna man, I would face the risk of death. He readily accepted my reservations. He said, "Saba. You are right." My respect for him grew.

Jayewardene appointed General Sepala Attygala as defence secretary and his son Ravi Jayewardene as national security advisor.

Lalith Athulathmudali

Athulathmudali flew to Jaffna in the morning of 24 March 1984. Attygala, Ravi Jayewardene, commanders of the army, navy and airforce and the Inspector General of Police went with him. Senior army and police officers deployed in the Jaffna district attended the conference. Half an hour after the conference started Jaffna’s Police Superintendent whispered to the IGP that a sergeant and two police constables had been killed in Point Pedro. The IGP passed the message to Athulathmudali, who was visibly shocked.

The LTTE had carefully planned this attack. It was intended to give a message to Athulathmudali. A group of LTTE hit-men waylaid and attacked a police patrol in Point Pedro. A sergeant and two police constables were killed in the spot and two other constables and the driver were injured. T he attackers fled with the weapons of the policemen.

Two days later, on 26 March, gunmen shot and killed a member of the airforce in Chunnakam. Airforce men avenged his death two days later, 28 March. They arrived at the Chunnakam market, the biggest vegetable market in the Jaffna peninsula, in a jeep and a truck and went to the Chunnakam police station. Then they went to the market packed with people as it was a market day. They then opened fire on the civilians in the Chunnakam market square.

Nine persons died and over 50 were injured and Subramaniam, known as Maniam, the market keeper, collapsed and died of a heart attack in the market square.



The LTTE and other armed groups were now ready to attack the Sri Lankan security forces. The LTTE decided to punish the security forces for the Chunnakam massacre. They decided to ambush the platoon of soldiers who belonged to the newly-formed Gajaba Regiment which provided guard to the trains plying between Colombo and Jaffna. The soldiers who provide guard to the Yal Devi express train disembark at Jaffna station and travel in a convoy of vehicles to Palaly Camp. Yarl Devi reaches Jaffna at around 9.30 p.m. The convoy, led by a five-ton Bedford truck, went along Hospital Road to the town and then proceeded to Palaly.

Car Bomb Attack

On 9 April the train was slightly late and the convoy of three vehicles left the station at about 9.45 p.m. As it was traveling along Hospital Road, a booby-trapped car parked near the historic Adaikala Matha Church exploded throwing the massive truck twenty meters away. The truck fell into the drain. Thick branches of a shade tree that stood about 70 feet away were shaved off at various places. Leaves on some branches were roasted. Over ten soldiers who travelled in the truck died. It took several minutes for the soldiers in the other vehicles to recover,

The 9 April explosion was the LTTE’s and Sri Lanka’s first car bomb explosion. Before that car bombs had been used by the IRA and Palestinian guerillas.

The army retaliated. Soldiers set fire to the shops and houses in the vicinity. They shot and killed the people who tried to escape. Two armoured cars stationed at the Buddhist temple, Naga Vihara, rushed to the scene of the ambush and fired several rounds with the 7.27 guns at the church, damaging the building and the statue of Jesus Christ.

The Catholics were enraged. On 10 April morning the entire Catholic coastal belt rose in protest. A group of civilians first marched around 8 a.m. to the Sinhala Vidyalayam which the army used as a resting place and burnt the buildings. Another mob vented its anger at the Buddhist Naga Vihara at Stanley Road around 8.30 a.m. Eye witnesses told me that the people were so worked up that they marched to the Vihara with crow bars and iron rods and demolished the building to the ground. Many used their bare hands to pull down the buildings.

Two weeks after that incident I met the chief priest of the vihara in Colombo. He showed me an album of photographs which showed a mound of rubble. He blamed the LTTE for the destruction.

Eight armed youths entered the Jaffna branch of the Bank of Ceylon when it opened the door at 9 a.m. and robbed 1.2 million rupees in cash. They escaped in the bank manager’s car.

The government declared an 18-hour curfew at 12 noon on 10 April in the Jaffna district. A large contingent of soldiers was brought to the Jaffna town that night. They burnt down the Jaffna Cooperative Stores and the adjacent buildings. They fired at civilians, killing many.

Soldiers tried to march towards Gurunagar, the densely populated Catholic village to the southeast of Jaffna city. The residents, led by Catholic priests, put up road blocks. They parked vehicles across the road. They burnt used tyres and logs of wood. The LTTE took a lead in mobilizing the people. Kittu and other LTTE cadres were there distributing grenades and petrol bombs.

The LTTE and other militant groups succeeded in restricting the movement of the soldiers. The army and the Colombo press were upset over this development. An army officer described to the Daily News this new phenomenon thus: "The terrorists employed new tactics, not encountered previously, to prevent the free movement of army patrols."

An Information Department publication Mission of Violence has this: "On the night of April 10, army patrols encountered road blocks, burning tyres were thrown on the road and at several points, were ambushed by armed youths, who used their firepower with the assurance of professional soldiers."

Jaffna Government Agent Devanesan Nesiah said the military killed more than 50 civilians. The Jaffna Citizen Committee claimed that the number killed by the army was 234 civilians in the four days beginning 9 April. State Ministry secretary Douglas told the weekly press briefing, "I cannot say every single person killed was a terrorist. When soldiers are ambushed or come under attack they fire in all directions. What else can they do? After all how does one identify a terrorist?"

On the same night a group of armed LTTE cadres exhibited the high degree of professionalism they had achieved. At 8.15 they walked into the Point Pedro police station, firing automatic weapons as they entered. The policemen threw away their old shotguns and fled. The Tigers used powerful explosives and blasted the buildings and burnt the two jeeps parked in front and walked away taking with a walkie-talkie set.

The August 9 ambush gave a new dimension to the armed struggle. The LTTE made use of the car bomb for the first time. It mobilized the people against the army. It successfully restricted the army's movement. And, above all, the ambush signified the intensification and sophistication of the armed struggle.

Athulathmudali reacted with anger. He had been aware of India’s training program since December 1983. The first ten days of April 1984 had demonstrated the high level of efficiency the armed groups, especially the Tigers, had achieved. The security council meeting he presided over on 11 April considered ways and means of curtailing the movement of the militants across the Palk Straits. The result was the creation of a maritime restricted zone, also known as a surveillance zone, inside Sri Lanka’s territorial waters.

Athulathmudali told the press that evening that no ship or boat would be allowed to be inside the maritime restricted zone without the permission of the Navy Commander. The boats that travelled with permission would be escorted by a navy patrol craft. He said the restriction was imposed to prevent smuggling of narcotics and to prevent the movement of terrorists between Sri Lanka and India.

Foreign Mercenaries

Athulathmudali was questioned at that press briefing about the induction of the Israeli Internal Security Agency Shin Bet into Sri Lanka. He admitted that Shin Bet was involved in the training of the Sri Lankan armed forces. He said many Israeli officers were involved in the training of the Sri Lankan soldiers in Colombo.

His admission was carefully structured in the form of a question. He said, "Is it wrong to get our soldiers trained when terrorists are being trained? The events of the last few days have proved beyond any shred of doubt that terrorists are given professional training in guerrilla warfare."

The Sri Lankan government also hired in the next few months Keeny Meeny Services, a Channel Island-based British mercenary company, to train the Sri Lankan Special Task Force (STF), an elite police commando unit set up under the command of Ravi Jayewardene. The former British Special Air Services personnel provided by the company trained STF personal in counterinsurgency methods. British mercenaries and British pilots of this company also took part in combat.

The British pilots piloted helicopter gunship and combat aircraft. They took part in bombing raids in the Jaffna Peninsula. These British mercenaries were paid a monthly salary of around 2,500 British pounds per person. They operated in Sri Lanka with the tacit approval of Margaret Thatcher's government. British weapon manufacturers sold huge quantity of armaments to Sri Lanka in April, 1984. Twenty armoured vehicles, a large quantity of night vision equipment, SLGs, LMGs, etc. were bought.

Pakistan also provided training and weapons to Sri Lanka, especially during President Zia Ul-Haq's period. Reports said that more than 8,000 Sri Lankan troops were trained in counterinsurgency. Pakistani-trained men wore black shirts and were responsible for indiscriminate killings.

Athulathmudali, while engaged in upgrading the quality of the army, was also busy in raising its numerical strength. When he took charge in March 1984 the strength of the army was about 15,000 with 11,000 regulars and 4000 volunteers. He launched a rapid recruitment drive by lowering the educational and physical requirements of enlistees.

A week after the imposition of the maritime restricted zone a naval patrol craft detained a boat which refused to stop when asked to do so. The boat, fitted with two 25 horse power engines, was taking fresh recruits for training in Tamil Nadu. Thirteen were arrested and investigators found among them a young boy aged 16. Athulathmudali flew to Palaly to question him. The boy said he was forcibly being taken to India for training. He added that he had agreed to go with the three hardcore terrorists because they threatened to kill his parents. For Athulathmudali the boy was a propaganda treasure.

On 1 May 1984 gunmen shot a Tamil police constable in Kalmunai town, thus restarting the militant campaign to eliminate Tamil informers and Tamil police investigators. He was the first policeman to die in the eastern province. Next day, 2 May, police constable Navaratnam was gunned down at the Point Pedro bus stand. Navaratnam, a member of the elite Special Unit established to arrest militants was about to board a bus to Jaffna. Two youths who rode on bicycles shot him and escaped. Two days later, 4 May, Police Constable Subramaniam, another police investigator of the Special Unit, was gunned down at Meesalai in the Chavakachcheri area. The LTTE killed him for providing the Military Intelligence Unit stationed in the Gurunagar Army Camp information about the hideout of Seelan who died on 15 June, 1983.


The escalation of the clash between the army and the militants also resulted in another undesired result which helped the militants to consolidate their position among the people. The army took control of the civil administration of the Jaffna peninsula, gradually pushing the civilian administration to the background. Palaly and Elephant Pass military camps emerged as the new power centres. The commanders of these camps dictated policy and regulated administrative functions, providing primacy to military interests.

The overlord attitude of the military commanders antagonized civilian administrators. The situation in which better-educated civil servants had to take orders from low-placed military officers created a group of time-servers who were waiting to undermine the military. This process heightened the Sinhala-Tamil estrangement.

LTTE eka wardanaya une ohomai...Lalith athulathmudali mahatha saha Denzil kobbekaduwa mahatha nayakathwaya dun Vadamarachchi oparetion eka INDIAN MEDIHATH weema nisa upset nogiya nam..ada LTTE ekak nehe

 

[DJ.Parker]

anyone knows d history b4 king ravana?

 

[~ShImMeRiNg~]

Lol!..i really liked the way u've written about the war....quite interesting..did make me laugh at times!
good job
thx

 

[Eranda200]

All conclude one theory: LTTEs are fuckin pussies.

 

[x-pert]

Lol!..i really liked the way u've written about the war....quite interesting..did make me laugh at times!
good job
thx

Laugh ???

Anywayz thanks for reading it