LTTE's War in x-pert's point of view.

Nash_Node

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    This is a summarised version of an unbiased analysis, and I was never born when most of these things occur. So I'm not 100% sure about the correctness of post. Older people pls correct me if I'm wrong. [But you have to have a DOB before 1977] - nop, sorry !


    Mr. S W R D Bandaranaike ruled the country.
    Tamil people and Sinhala people lived together.
    But there was some discrimination because Tamils were the minority.

    Let me correct this. - Before Banda, Sri Lanka was ruled by the sorts of Dudly and Sir John which were mostly hellbent on developing Sri Lanka eventhough they wore double breasted coats and ties.

    However, Dudly and Sir John made one big change in the estate sector with the involment of Chelva. Till that time the estate sector was run by the Privatized British rule. Chelva was instrumental in dealing with Dudly and Sri John to aqquire them back to government and MAKE IT A PROFIT making venture towards the Government and the estate workers.

    But, British DIDN'T LIKE IT !, what they did was to aqquire 100,000 aceres in Africa which was under their rule and to start the tea plantation to beat Sri Lanka in the World Market.

    FAILED !! becuase they JUST cannot beat the quality of Sri Lankan tea. So, in looking for a way to break this, they saw BANDA as the best value of their money. British approached Banda and financed his entire campaign to get elected with the Slogan of "Pancha Maha Balawegaya".

    We must understand here that, eventhough the British had left Ceylon, we were still ruled by an English speaking High society crew ! What Banda did was to make the Normal poor / un-educated people of Ceylon to revolt against these people (what JVP is doing now).

    So HE WON !... and from then on wards the Down fall of Sri Lanka began.

    Then came the era of Sirimavo.
    Still there was some discrimination but Sirimavo tackled it strategically.
    She bought vegies, grain, fruits from Jaffna farmers. So they became rich hence they lived peacefully.

    No, She made a tactical DISASTER !. she wanted to put Sri Lanka on the same track as India to be self suffiecient nation. BUT, she didn't understand that SRI LANKAN's are not that sort of people.

    She was adviced by Punk heads like "rathwatte" whome were idelogistic FOOLS who didn't know the ground reality of the country.

    Here we must also note that, Sirimavo was elected purely on the "emmotional basis" of people. She was someone who never had any experiance in EVEN RUNNING her own home let alone a COUNTRY !

    But as per your point, Jaffna farmers were already rich. There was no need to make them "MORE" richer during her rule had made them. They were a proud set of people who understood the value of education and they were one of the most HIGHLY educated people in the country.

    The Country's food supply was clearly marked as Chillies and B'Onions from Jaffna, Rice from Anura-polon, Tea from N'eliya, Coconuts from Kurunegala and SORT, so there was no competition amonst the farmers or the produse. Who ever says it or believe's it mistaken !!!!

    Then there was this turning point. J R Jayawardena was elected in 1977.
    He got 5 out of 6 votes in Sri Lanka. Sirimavo only got 6 or 7 seats. Hence Tamil party became the opposition. And the foreign community thought the Tamils will become the next ruling government in SL.

    Yes, that was the Turning point for "GOOD" not for the "BAD". Remember !!!! I am typing this to you on a laptop sitting in an air conditioned office THANKS to J.R. Otherwise, we would be still sending stampped letters to GTRZ who's operating a snail mail "friends club" called "ELAKIRI" :lol:

    True, along with the Open economy it brought some adverse effects. But even J.R didn't bring it upon the people, someone else would have done it. Because even the most biggest country to hold onto such idealogies (CHINA) has fallen on it's knees because of it. Now they are staggering back to democracy and Open economy.

    It was not the foreign who though it would be as such. It's the people of this country thought it as such.


    Western countries always wanted to have a war to sell their weaponry basically.

    There was nothing called WAR during that time in SL !

    J R Jayawardena introduced Open Economy in SL. So SL could buy stuff from foreig countries for a much lesser price than buying from the inland farmers including the tamil farmers in Jaffna.

    This was a massive hit to the Tamil Farmers because selling those items was the main occupation in Jaffna. And that's the main reason for they being so rich those days.

    Partly true !!. They were affected by it, but not as so we would like this they were.

    To understand what really happened, Let's treck back to Banda's "pancha maha balawegaya"

    When this came into being, our Sihalese "dipshit" nutcases who were just too arrogent to be educated Demanded JOBS in the public sector through Political powers and JUST because of the fact that "Pancha maha B" thing was purely racial....as for Sinhalse only.

    Even TODAy, the constitution says,

    Sinhala is the main language, Tamil IS ALSO
    a language (mark the ittaling and underline word) -- IS ALSO means it's not a main language in this country.

    Because of this, the Tamils got suppressed. They were educated and a proud set of people,.. they were helpless but to stand back and watch when our sinhalese punks take all the best places (where they were not qualified enough)... and tamils were pushed back or regarded as Just farmers.

    Understand that we as a RACE were practising Racial SLUR !!! which was started by Banda. I am not trying to put all the blame on One donkey....but just pointing out that "this is where it started"

    Tamil people may be intelligent.(they were) But if some one is telling they are brainy than Sinhala people that is not a proven fact.(it was nothing to be provan... it was a FACT-- but don't brand me as a "KOTIYA" as would "rapa" do as soon as he sees this:lol:... but that's the truth we have to agree on) But in the history there were few top notch Tamil leaders heading several companies in the country.( FEW ???:shocked:. not few mate. almost ALL) That's because Sinhala people never wanted to learn tamil and Tamil people have a tendency to give more marks for Tamil people in A/L s and other exams. So they pased all the exams etc. (WRONG !, that's complete BULLSH_T... exams papers are distributed around the island to be corrected and there's no WAY anyone to give MORE marks without getting caught)

    Then there was this guy, called Prabakaran. who didn't want to go to school but wanted to watch cow boy movies resulted to SL by the open economy. When he was in his youth, he wanted to have a revolution because he didn't like the current situation of the Tamils. [Basically they couldn't sell their crop to Sri Lankan government]

    :-)lol:, well his favourite actor is Gamini Fonseka :lol:.He's educated up to O/L's. But it was not the Cowboy films came through the Open economy or the selling of crop made him revolt. (How can he be fustrated in no bein able to sell crops when he didn't own nothing else than his own house;)??)

    But it was the SUPPRESSION that made him and all other Tamils youths revolted. They were neglected in the Public job secotor and Tamils were even Banned from Joining the Armed Forces.

    So did led the JVP to revolt ?? Suppression, government not heeding their pleas,........ which was the same reason Tamils revolted.

    Indeed, I am not "again' trying to put all the fault on the shoulders of Sinhalese. Tamils had their own damn issues as well. But 75% of the fault DO REST on our shoulders and we cannot deny it, eventhough ironically we ALL deny it:yes:

    Apparently Prabakaran is a patient having a mental disorder called Parabola disease.

    No comments ! (never met his doctor :lol:)

    So Praba and another friend of his called Mahaththaya wanted to have a revolution and they somehow able to get a pistol from somewhere.

    Err, you soud it more like - "Ok, Machang, let's go make a revolution!! let's kill some people and start a massacar !!!:shocked:

    It's NOT LIKE THAT !!..

    One day Prabha killed an army soldier, actually a civil engineer in Jaffna. This is mainly with the intention to start a war.

    Rather trying to grab the GUN from him.

    But, ask the question "WHY DID THE ARMY FELLOW WAS THERE?" because an unrest of the Tamil population has already started. !! and our stupid leaders (including J.R) thought of Suppressing them MORE than trying to solve it.


    SL Government sent a group of 13 soldiers to investigate the situation.

    These 13 soldiers were killed by a Claymore mine.

    Then there was this black mark called the Black july. (Kalu juliya)

    Sinhala people in Colombo started killing Tamils in Colombo and as a result almost all the tamils went to Jaffna where there was a good situation for them with the leadership of Prabha. Then the tamils also started the war.

    Sinhalese people were nothing more than a pack of CROOCKED RETARDS. what began as a "recoil" ended up as a mass robbary and murder!. To top it all, that di_k head J.R. didn't do anything to stop it either.


    Killings went on and on.

    Indian Peace Keeping Forces (IPKF) came to Sri Lanka to give support to the Sri Lankan forces to wipe off LTTE from the surface. But they did many bad things too. As an example raping women.

    That happens when any foreign army lands in another country. But, yes they were BAD in terms of their latter negotiations with the LTTE and leaving their weapons in truck loads for LTTE by the orders of Ghandi !

    Again there was a situation where they had to have an election. And R Premadasa gave a promise saying that he will send the IPKF back to India. For 2 reasons. IPKF was doing bad stuff for SL women as well. And SL people thought someday India will capture the control of SL. (Including Rajiv Gandhi)

    So people wanted to have Premadasa as the president.

    Di_K head number 2 in my list !. IPKF cornered Prabha in the Wadamaarachchi and was the launch the final offencive the next day when the order came to Pack up and go... (and order included to leave weapons)


    After being the president, Premadasa discussed with LTTE for a solution. mainly to send the IPKF back. LTTE and Premadasa had 2 different agendas in this scenario. So ultimately Premadasa gave weapons to LTTE to kick IPKF out meanwhile discussing with India about the negotiation. After some time Rajiv Gandhi ordered IPKF to fall back to India.

    The comment I have for this is too damn long to write. Feel bored now ! But will do later if this convo does pick up ;)

    But as a personal revenge Prabha killed Rajiv Gandhi. This was the biggest mistake prabha has done in his history. For the first time he has given a chance to his heart to act instead of his mind.

    No, that was when Ghandi and Prabha got pissed off with each other. This did not have anything to do with the fall back of IPKF. This was an issue regarding Thamilnadu (again... too bored to write) :lol:

    So now the LTTE have more weapons and many tamils supported Prabha. So here we are... with a war having a history of 25 years.

    In Jaffna, casts play a huge role. Prabha is from the lowest cast called commonly as "sakkili" the people who wash toilets. But because of the JRs open economy, Tamils have very few options. So they had to support a leadership. They chose Prabha.

    Western countries played a huge role in starting this war. Mainly the British. They are the people who introduced this divide. They wanted to have 50 : 50 in the Parliment (Sinhala : Tamil) where there was only a minority of Tamils in Sri Lanka.

    So mainly, British people, Sinhala people, Tamil people, JR's open economy are the main reasons for this war.

    I have much to write about this as well.......so let me leave the last three comments of mine "uncommented" because

    1. I am bored

    2. would be a waste of time if no one is intersted.

    but...Please leave J.R's open economy out of this. !!!:lol:
     
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    kasunsankalpana

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    meke thiena samahara ewanam ahala thiyenawa
    eth mehema piliwelata ahala naha
    Thankz X

    kochchara kalath thamath thamilnaduwen ehema LTTE ekata sahena udau labenawane
     

    Nash_Node

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    maleemsg said:
    :( :( :( :( :( :(

    kauru kaage waradin kohoma patan gaththath merenne me rateminissu..!
    me rate tharuna parapura...
    Me rate anagathya..!

    ikmanata me kehelmal yudde iwara wenawa nam....!:nerd:

    Suggestions

    1. Kill all tamils
    2. Kill all sinhalese

    or..

    3. Say sorry before they do and never expect thme to say first either.

    which one you like to pick ?
     

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    Wow a nice post, I'll comment on this topic later, too much to read in the thread;):D
    But X bro your first comment is a smash;):D
     

    DJ.Parker

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    Nash_Node said:
    Suggestions

    1. Kill all tamils
    2. Kill all sinhalese

    or..

    3. Say sorry before they do and never expect thme to say first either.

    which one you like to pick ?

    whos gonna say sorry?
    no one will:no:
    and im sure half of the country doesnt knw the reason 4 the war

    btw thanx 4 ur contribution.....there r some points even I dont knw

    p.s
    rapoo meka thama baluwe nane?:P
     

    Nash_Node

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    DJ.Parker said:
    whos gonna say sorry?
    no one will:no:
    and im sure half of the country doesnt knw the reason 4 the war

    btw thanx 4 ur contribution.....there r some points even I dont knw

    p.s
    rapoo meka thama baluwe nane?:P

    Rapa ! :lol:

    I was taught 3 cardinal rules

    1. Never question the legimacy of your Mother.
    2. Never argue with an narrow minded idiot.
    3. Never argue with a woman "out of courts"

    I simply sticked to the "second" option when I bumped into him on that "Nimalka" thread.
     

    x-pert

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    Oh nice to see some more comments on this thread after a long time :D

    Keep it up Nash. Some nice comments from you and others :)
    Thanks :D
     

    sanka_classic

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    x-pert said:
    This is a summarised version of an unbiased analysis, and I was never born when most of these things occur. So I'm not 100% sure about the correctness of post. Older people pls correct me if I'm wrong. [But you have to have a DOB before 1977]


    Mr. S W R D Bandaranaike ruled the country.
    Tamil people and Sinhala people lived together.
    But there was some discrimination because Tamils were the minority.

    Then came the era of Sirimavo.
    Still there was some discrimination but Sirimavo tackled it strategically.
    She bought vegies, grain, fruits from Jaffna farmers. So they became rich hence they lived peacefully.

    Then there was this turning point. J R Jayawardena was elected in 1977.
    He got 5 out of 6 votes in Sri Lanka. Sirimavo only got 6 or 7 seats. Hence Tamil party became the opposition. And the foreign community thought the Tamils will become the next ruling government in SL.

    Western countries always wanted to have a war to sell their weaponry basically.

    J R Jayawardena introduced Open Economy in SL. So SL could buy stuff from foreig countries for a much lesser price than buying from the inland farmers including the tamil farmers in Jaffna.

    This was a massive hit to the Tamil Farmers because selling those items was the main occupation in Jaffna. And that's the main reason for they being so rich those days.

    Tamil people may be intelligent. But if some one is telling they are brainy than Sinhala people that is not a proven fact. But in the history there were few top notch Tamil leaders heading several companies in the country. That's because Sinhala people never wanted to learn tamil and Tamil people have a tendency to give more marks for Tamil people in A/L s and other exams. So they pased all the exams etc.

    Then there was this guy, called Prabakaran. who didn't want to go to school but wanted to watch cow boy movies resulted to SL by the open economy. When he was in his youth, he wanted to have a revolution because he didn't like the current situation of the Tamils. [Basically they couldn't sell their crop to Sri Lankan government]

    Apparently Prabakaran is a patient having a mental disorder called Parabola disease.

    So Praba and another friend of his called Mahaththaya wanted to have a revolution and they somehow able to get a pistol from somewhere.

    One day Prabha killed an army soldier, actually a civil engineer in Jaffna. This is mainly with the intention to start a war.

    SL Government sent a group of 13 soldiers to investigate the situation.

    These 13 soldiers were killed by a Claymore mine.

    Then there was this black mark called the Black july. (Kalu juliya)

    Sinhala people in Colombo started killing Tamils in Colombo and as a result almost all the tamils went to Jaffna where there was a good situation for them with the leadership of Prabha. Then the tamils also started the war.

    Killings went on and on.

    Indian Peace Keeping Forces (IPKF) came to Sri Lanka to give support to the Sri Lankan forces to wipe off LTTE from the surface. But they did many bad things too. As an example raping women.

    Again there was a situation where they had to have an election. And R Premadasa gave a promise saying that he will send the IPKF back to India. For 2 reasons. IPKF was doing bad stuff for SL women as well. And SL people thought someday India will capture the control of SL. (Including Rajiv Gandhi)

    So people wanted to have Premadasa as the president.

    After being the president, Premadasa discussed with LTTE for a solution. mainly to send the IPKF back. LTTE and Premadasa had 2 different agendas in this scenario. So ultimately Premadasa gave weapons to LTTE to kick IPKF out meanwhile discussing with India about the negotiation. After some time Rajiv Gandhi ordered IPKF to fall back to India.

    But as a personal revenge Prabha killed Rajiv Gandhi. This was the biggest mistake prabha has done in his history. For the first time he has given a chance to his heart to act instead of his mind.

    So now the LTTE have more weapons and many tamils supported Prabha. So here we are... with a war having a history of 25 years.

    In Jaffna, casts play a huge role. Prabha is from the lowest cast called commonly as "sakkili" the people who wash toilets. But because of the JRs open economy, Tamils have very few options. So they had to support a leadership. They chose Prabha.

    Western countries played a huge role in starting this war. Mainly the British. They are the people who introduced this divide. They wanted to have 50 : 50 in the Parliment (Sinhala : Tamil) where there was only a minority of Tamils in Sri Lanka.

    So mainly, British people, Sinhala people, Tamil people, JR's open economy are the main reasons for this war.



    [This is an answer for DJ Parker ;)]

    thanks ur info
     

    Nash_Node

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    DJ.Parker said:
    whos gonna say sorry?
    no one will:no:
    and im sure half of the country doesnt knw the reason 4 the war

    btw thanx 4 ur contribution.....there r some points even I dont knw

    p.s
    rapoo meka thama baluwe nane?:P
    Sorry was rather a hypothetical phrase used by me to depit the "acceptence" of our faults and easing the Root cause of this whole problem.

    Ok, read this

    Back in 1975, there was a wave of communilism in east Asia. Viatnam, Cambodia, Laos etc countires fell right into the hands of hard lined communists (the likes of Wimal and Somawansha)

    But the only country to survive that wave was "Thailand"

    The communists had the support of many Univercity educated youth in Thailand and they formed their military bases on the outskirts of the boarder ! Their weapons and training came via the Viatnam boarder.

    How did the Thailand government survived ? actually it's a long subject, but summerzing on the highlights.


    1. The Thailand government didn't arrest ANYONE !

    2. The Government offered an un-conditionaly amnesty to anyone who want to come back to the democratic rule.

    3. When a student surrendered to the Army, they were released back to the Univercity without any arrests or harrasments. They were on survailence...but were FREE to live a scarefree life for them selves out of the Communists.

    4. The Army was adviced not to SHOOT any communists unless they shot them first and their Army sticked to it. Only less that 10 communists were killed during the whole agenda.

    5. Through that time, the goverment built roads to the remortest of hamlest and along with it went a Clink and electricity. The King of Thailand him self has paid for some of the consturction.

    6. The suppressed people who supported communism did see that they could gain more benift by being democratic. They can NOW sell their crops to the village market..and health benifits which the communists cannot deliver. So, people became more prosporouse and rejected the crazy communilism.

    7. One by one, all communist militants gave up their arms and came back to the democratic civilization.

    8. Some of the Communist youth leaders were NOT ARRESTED. They were offered SPECIAL MINISTER POSTS in the Thailand cabinet for their special leadership skills.

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    That's how Thailand escaped the clutches of Communism. !!

    Now, take this model and apply to Sri Lanka... can't we do this?

    Question for you to Ponder over and answer
     
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    sudheera said:
    mokadda case eka ketiyen kiyanna?


    aththtatama kiyawanna kammali

    Ubala wage unta newei damme :)

    Uba palayan gihin Extreme Chatters ekata wela ohe kiyawapan nikan ati kehel kaapu rilawa wage kisi wadakata nathuwa thamunge watinaa kaalaya naasthi karagena :frown:
     

    DJ.Parker

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    Nash_Node said:
    Sorry was rather a hypothetical phrase used by me to depit the "acceptence" of our faults and easing the Root cause of this whole problem.

    Ok, read this

    Back in 1975, there was a wave of communilism in east Asia. Viatnam, Cambodia, Laos etc countires fell right into the hands of hard lined communists (the likes of Wimal and Somawansha)

    But the only country to survive that wave was "Thailand"

    The communists had the support of many Univercity educated youth in Thailand and they formed their military bases on the outskirts of the boarder ! Their weapons and training came via the Viatnam boarder.

    How did the Thailand government survived ? actually it's a long subject, but summerzing on the highlights.


    1. The Thailand government didn't arrest ANYONE !

    2. The Government offered an un-conditionaly amnesty to anyone who want to come back to the democratic rule.

    3. When a student surrendered to the Army, they were released back to the Univercity without any arrests or harrasments. They were on survailence...but were FREE to live a scarefree life for them selves out of the Communists.

    4. The Army was adviced not to SHOOT any communists unless they shot them first and their Army sticked to it. Only less that 10 communists were killed during the whole agenda.

    5. Through that time, the goverment built roads to the remortest of hamlest and along with it went a Clink and electricity. The King of Thailand him self has paid for some of the consturction.

    6. The suppressed people who supported communism did see that they could gain more benift by being democratic. They can NOW sell their crops to the village market..and health benifits which the communists cannot deliver. So, people became more prosporouse and rejected the crazy communilism.

    7. One by one, all communist militants gave up their arms and came back to the democratic civilization.

    8. Some of the Communist youth leaders were NOT ARRESTED. They were offered SPECIAL MINISTER POSTS in the Thailand cabinet for their special leadership skills.

    ------------------------------------------------

    That's how Thailand escaped the clutches of Communism. !!

    Now, take this model and apply to Sri Lanka... can't we do this?

    Question for you to Ponder over and answer

    I'll try to giv a better reply later but for now.....

    May b its too late???
    I don't think wimal n somawansa are real communists...... they are just like every other politician.....
    and well to whom should v apply thailand's tactic? farmers?? LTTE? JVP n Hela Urumaya? or to everyone?
     

    Nash_Node

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    sudheera said:
    mokadda case eka ketiyen kiyanna?


    aththtatama kiyawanna kammali
    1. Tigers have planned to Kill Mahinda's wife.

    2. They have bribed the undertaker in "jayarathna malshaalawa" to strap a bomb on her when her dead body arives.

    3. Take the body to president's house, wait till Mahinda come running with tears

    4. BOOOOM

    5. President dead

    so, we were actually talking about a method on how we can stop this and alert the authorities in time of this sinister plan

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     

    Nash_Node

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    DJ.Parker said:
    I'll try to giv a better reply later but for now.....

    May b its too late???
    I don't think wimal n somawansa are real communists...... they are just like every other politician.....
    and well to whom should v apply thailand's tactic? farmers?? LTTE? JVP n Hela Urumaya? or to everyone?

    Good question.

    I would say for the whole country.

    on the time...ponder over this too

    What did Ranil do? or what was he trying to do?

    I am not a party politics person, but I respect this guy for atleast "trying" to do that.

    Pitty that not many understood it.