MIRACLE OF QURAAN

prabaths

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    nabil said:
    well in ur attempt to justify ur comment u have made a statement of no relevance what so ever to what you told before.

    neway ur question has been answered quite rightly by inter1 and u havent seem to understand it.. READ IT AGAIN!!!


    For your first line: Followings are are my posts in this thread. I don't see any discrepancy in my statements. What I want to tell is " There is no almighty God "


    (1) "May be the ink they have used is not eatable for the termites and they have avoided the letters. This is how ancient ppl have saved their valuables.

    Personally I don't believe in any of these almighty gods. (if there are any, they are blind and def...)"

    (2) "If a god or somebody come and heal this world, stop all the killings, stop the wars in many countries, give a solution to hunger then it is a miracle and will drop down on my knees and I will do whatever he says. If the god (if there is a one) is not blind and def and mute, he might be enjoying all the sorrow we are facing."

    (4) "May be you are right...You have answered the question. The translations may be written in non termite proof ink...

    OK! my question is, if there is an almighty god (in any religion) why can't he see the killings and other horrible things which people (either muslims or non muslims) are doing? Why there is no step is been taken to stop them? I like to recall the WTC attack which killed several thousand innocent ppl. What step has the god taken to punish Osama? Is the god enjoying these killings? As I said before he is def, blind and mute or he enjoys these very much (if there is a god)."

    (5) "So it's a design failure. If the god is perfect he should see what will happen in the future... So he hasn't seen this horrible killings. Indirectly you are telling that god is not perfect. I agree.

    Don't you like a world with better ppl?"





    For your second line: What inter1 has said is, god has put a question on us, not knowing the answer. Why does he want to test us? If he is the creator and if he is perfect, he should know the outcome or the way we are going to behave. If not he is not perfect.

    What god should do is stop all the bad things, not the good things. Now some ppl are doing bad things and some are trying to stop them in bad ways.
     
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    prabaths said:

    For your first line: Followings are are my posts in this thread. I don't see any discrepancy in my statements. What I want to tell is " There is no almighty God "


    (1) "May be the ink they have used is not eatable for the termites and they have avoided the letters. This is how ancient ppl have saved their valuables.

    Personally I don't believe in any of these almighty gods. (if there are any, they are blind and def...)"

    (2) "If a god or somebody come and heal this world, stop all the killings, stop the wars in many countries, give a solution to hunger then it is a miracle and will drop down on my knees and I will do whatever he says. If the god (if there is a one) is not blind and def and mute, he might be enjoying all the sorrow we are facing."

    (4) "May be you are right...You have answered the question. The translations may be written in non termite proof ink...

    OK! my question is, if there is an almighty god (in any religion) why can't he see the killings and other horrible things which people (either muslims or non muslims) are doing? Why there is no step is been taken to stop them? I like to recall the WTC attack which killed several thousand innocent ppl. What step has the god taken to punish Osama? Is the god enjoying these killings? As I said before he is def, blind and mute or he enjoys these very much (if there is a god)."

    (5) "So it's a design failure. If the god is perfect he should see what will happen in the future... So he hasn't seen this horrible killings. Indirectly you are telling that god is not perfect. I agree.

    Don't you like a world with better ppl?"





    For your second line: What inter1 has said is, god has put a question on us, not knowing the answer. Why does he want to test us? If he is the creator and if he is perfect, he should know the outcome or the way we are going to behave. If not he is not perfect.

    What god should do is stop all the bad things, not the good things. Now some ppl are doing bad things and some are trying to stop them in bad ways.
    no there is no discrepancy. its just that this:

    (1) "May be the ink they have used is not eatable for the termites and they have avoided the letters. This is how ancient ppl have saved their valuables.

    dusnt relate to this:

    OK! my question is, if there is an almighty god (in any religion) why can't he see the killings and other horrible things which people (either muslims or non muslims) are doing? Why there is no step is been taken to stop them? I like to recall the WTC attack which killed several thousand innocent ppl. What step has the god taken to punish Osama? Is the god enjoying these killings? As I said before he is def, blind and mute or he enjoys these very much (if there is a god)."

    to answer ur question / statement:

    For your second line: What inter1 has said is, god has put a question on us, not knowing the answer. Why does he want to test us? If he is the creator and if he is perfect, he should know the outcome or the way we are going to behave. If not he is not perfect.

    god wants to test us to see how much faith we have in god.

    What god should do is stop all the bad things, not the good things. Now some ppl are doing bad things and some are trying to stop them in bad ways.
    im assuming u know very little about what ur arguing about. heard of Satan?
     

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    Listen.. I'm not this walbada person.. anyway you can take me for anybody you want I dont care.
    I didnt say anything about my religion.. infact my religion HAS NO MIRACLES.. and we don't need miracles to believe in our religion... we dont need miracles to know about cause-and-effect... ppl need miracles when they doubt their faith... Islam is a very disciplinary religion.. it says what to do and what not to do.. which is a good thing... but there is a bad side of it too... ppl then rely heavily on the Quran.. they dont think outside it.. they dont think for themselves.. they lose intellectual reasoning.. they cant rationalize things... thats what happens when you believe that there is an almighty god... but there are many good things said in Quran too..
    but many contrasting things too.. for example, they dont eat anything other than HALAL.. which from what I know is a particular way of killin the animal.. and the same ppl who eat ONLY these Halal meat go and kill ppl on the street like dogs!
    I guess it's one of the scariest things when you believe in something written by an illiterate merchant..

    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
     

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    prabaths said:
    So it's a design failure. If the god is perfect he should see what will happen in the future... So he hasn't seen this horrible killings. Indirectly you are telling that god is not perfect. I agree.

    Don't you like a world with better ppl?

    i wonder if you are still in ur childhood days....:confused::confused:

    talk maturely
     

    prabaths

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    nabil said:
    no there is no discrepancy. its just that this:



    dusnt relate to this:



    to answer ur question / statement:



    god wants to test us to see how much faith we have in god.


    im assuming u know very little about what ur arguing about. heard of Satan?

    Statements are some answers to some other ppl's posts so may not relate to each other. But all my statements says that "There is no almighty god".

    I don't know why god wants to test our faithfulness to him. If the god is perfect, if he created the world, there shouldn't be any unfaithful ppl for him. That's why I said it's a design failure.

    I am not afraid of Satan or any other non-existing things because I'm not doing any bad. But I have seen human-satans who kill and hurt ppl and to the society. This includes the ppl who kill by the name of god. But I know you are not allowed to question god so you should afraid to give comments like this. Sad to see ppl who have lost their freedom to question and to find the truth.
     

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    inter1 said:
    i wonder if you are still in ur childhood days....:confused::confused:

    talk maturely


    If I'm childish, what is maturity?? To believe whatever your parents or teachers say? Or to believe whatever the things in the book?

    Feel sorry for muslim ppl because you are not allowed to see the world properly. You don't have the freedom to question the god.

    I'm not expecting a perfect world with perfect ppl. All I want to say is "there is no god".
     

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    prabaths said:
    If I'm childish, what is maturity?? To believe whatever your parents or teachers say? Or to believe whatever the things in the book?

    Feel sorry for muslim ppl because you are not allowed to see the world properly. You don't have the freedom to question the god.

    I'm not expecting a perfect world with perfect ppl. All I want to say is "there is no god".

    who said we don't have freedom on everthing...all that are legal can be done.....

    if you don't believe in god...that's not a problem to argue in this thread...its your problem...why bringing it here
     

    prabaths

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    daddyimmo said:
    Thanx for informations!

    God Dont exist to us unless We exist to god! Just like saying until they understand us we must appreciate and understand them first


    What type of god is he??? We sometime refer to ppl as gods who come to help us when we need. Does this means humans are better than god? He will help us only we help him???

    "devi kenek ape dukedi sapedi dekedima api langinma inna epai. ekata ape jathiya, aagama balapanawanam eya devi kenek wenne kohomada? anika api okkoma mawwe deviyo nam ay aagam anuwa wenas salakili?"
     

    prabaths

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    inter1 said:
    who said we don't have freedom on everthing...all that are legal can be done.....

    if you don't believe in god...that's not a problem to argue in this thread...its your problem...why bringing it here


    Have to remind you that elakiri is open to any one to express their thoughts on anything (but not spam). So if you want to post something that everybody will accept and say "yes", sorry dude this is not the place. For a case like this, I'm sure that there will be islamic web sites and you better put this in that.

    I have few Islamic friends and they are afraid to questions the god. They can's ask "Why god has done this?, why god has said this?........" Can you?
     

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    prabaths said:
    Have to remind you that elakiri is open to any one to express their thoughts on anything (but not spam). So if you want to post something that everybody will accept and say "yes", sorry dude this is not the place. For a case like this, I'm sure that there will be islamic web sites and you better put this in that.

    I have few Islamic friends and they are afraid to questions the god. They can's ask "Why god has done this?, why god has said this?........" Can you?

    whats there to get afraid :lol::lol: ask?
     

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    Brothers I am a Muslim, I too dint practice Islam or never cared about it, But then I was very deferent than NOW,then I had a negative aproach to my life, at times I went to the extent of Smoking or taking drugs listing to metal and rock music all night along(an Average Late teen:),Honestly I never gained a long lasting happiness or ability control my life even in bad times, But I realized life is not just to party, thire might be some reason for our existanse for our Happy times and Sad times, So I started searching my religion for that Answer , Now I am completly deferent my Negative aproach is not any more thire, I dont smoke or do any other bad stuff to enjoy, instead I do what ever good God has though do what ever to help the poor,do what ever to help the oppressed in the society,but that way I gain more enjoyment a long lasting one,

    Why God gives us pain,?
    Some of us Praise god when we have happy moments but when clamity befalls us we turn away from him and ask why?the Answer is God has mentioned in Quran be patient when Clamity comes to you, by that God can realize who have firm faith who can submit his life to god and Also he can realize the hypocrites who only look for god when they r fine,

    Even Lord Buddha faced troubles when he convayed his message Even Jesus(Peace be upon him) Moses(Peace be upon him) Even Prohet Muhammed(Peace be upon him) the great people like mahathma gandhi and many more people faced troubles in thire lifes, But did they sit back and ask Why God? did they sit back a Curse? No, thire clamities gave them more streangth it made them more stronger to Convey thire Message to people,Clamaties cuase some to Brake down but some to brake records,

    WHy God sent us messangers? Why God created great people on earth,? is it to make monuments and just praise them for one special day, No,

    To follow them untill our finale breath,Unless that we realize that truth we can only Ask Why?

    The problem is now a days man messures everything with money so religion is too has become a business for the man,