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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hafizsaad" data-source="post: 4714295" data-attributes="member: 153303">CONTINUE FROM KILLING PEOPLE WHO CHANGE RELIGION ISLAM(note #5 below) The Catholic Church at one time forced people to enter into their religion at the point of the sword and with torture chambers (see: Crusades, 1095 to 1200 A.D.; and Inquisition, 1492 to 1520 A.D.) Those who wished to remain or change to Islam or Judaism or even another form of Christianity were put to the most vile of tortures and even executed. However, this cannot be said to in any way, represent the teachings of Jesus or the New Testament.Now let us consider the realities of balance in Islam in light of today's world:There is no existing Islamic state with a khilafah. This means the hudud (punishment according to Islam) of the Shar'iah (Islamic Law) cannot be appropritely applied. Additionally, anyone not being a citizen living in an Islamic state could hardly be tried and convicted by the state in a proper manner. (note #6 below)Some would claim the Protestants are not the same as the Catholics. Read what the first real "protestant," Martin Lurther, had to say about this (taken from Jamal Udeen Zaraboza's article).Let us consider the follow example for comparison: > There is a person living in Russia decides he wants to become a citizen of the United States and goes to the United States Embassy and begins the procedure of immagration and naturalization. Later on he changes his mind, doesn't like things the US is doing and decides to give it up. > Now he cancels his immagration process. This would could lessen his chances of getting citizenship in the future but would not bring about retaliation against him from the US. > Then, if he begins to publicly speak out against the US policy and puts up websites, sends out emails makes speeches calling for acts of violence against America, he definitely is going to have a problem ever getting a chance a citizenship later if he should change his mind and like to become an American. > Next, he goes so far as to actually recruit people and train them at some paintball place while telling them they are preparing to attack America. <>Question: Is he going to be listed as a terrorist and enemy to America? <> What about those who joined him for paintball practice and listened to his talks? Would they be listed along with him, as terrorists? <> Would they be tortured (in some other country) and then spend the rest of their lives in prison? ! > After all, they are enemies to the state and should be treated as such. Right?To conclude, Islam comes from Allah, the actual Creator and Sustainer of the universe. Islam provides for all situations and dictates what are the rights and limitations. This all seeks to provide a safe enviornment for all people to learn the correct message of Almighty Allah and how to live as upright citizens in a place of pleace and mutual cooperation for all humans, regardless of their beliefs. If a person wants to accept this belief and way of life, then they should be free to do so. If another person would reject this even though the evidence is clearly in favor of Islam, they are free to make this choice but would live in the society still receiving the benefits and services available, such as food, ****ter, clothing, protection and charity. However, they would pay a larger tax on their wealth due to their not being con******ed to serve in the military and so on.Conditions are really what bring about the different rulings on dealing with those who enter Islam and then leave it, with the clear intention of bringing about descention and unrest amongst the people. Also, those who seek to convert people away from Islam into other faiths or to destroy the Islamic government would naturally be considered as traitors and then dealt with as such.All knowledge is with Allah and for any mistakes I seek Allah's forgiveness and beg the pardon of anyone whom I may have offended in this writing.Again, may Allah reward you for your effort and accept from you and all of us, ameen. Salam alaykum,YUSUF ESTESANSWER TO YOUR NEXT QUESTION  I WILL GIVE IN NEXT POST</blockquote>

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