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<blockquote data-quote="MrCat" data-source="post: 24594951" data-attributes="member: 38575"><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Also, about independent rear suspension, just read that the 2019 Corolla is having an independent multi-link rear. This is after many many years, possibly after the AE110 series from memory (I could be wrong here). </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I heard or read somewhere that car manufactures would save an average of 300 dollars per car from having live axel rears as opposed to independent.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Strange that Mazda went the other way around after having excellent suspension dynamics for many previous generations. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Looks like they are trying to defend the decision though <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/D.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> </span></p><p></p><p>Source : <a href="https://www.goauto.com.au/news/mazda/mazda3/mazda-defends-small-car-suspension-rethink/2017-09-10/65426.html" target="_blank">https://www.goauto.com.au/news/mazda/mazda3/mazda-defends-small-car-suspension-rethink/2017-09-10/65426.html</a></p><p></p><p>-----------------</p><p>“Mr Fujiwara said the change was not based on cost grounds – even though a multi-link suspension is typically a more complicated and expensive design than torsion beam – but to improve refinement as well as dynamic performance.</p><p></p><p>“Changing from the multi-link to a torsion beam was definitely not on cost grounds,” he said.</p><p></p><p>“We are focusing on the value for the customer, therefore we selected this kind of torsion beam axle instead of the multi-link suspension.</p><p></p><p>“Also, our expert in chassis dynamics already has tested (the new platform) for high-speed, bumpy roads, and everything is better than the current Mazda3’s multi-link suspension.”</p><p></p><p>Mr Fujiwara explained that newly developed rubber bushes in the trailing link of the new suspension had met the company’s requirements.</p><p></p><p>“So far, it’s been very difficult meeting vehicle dynamics, ride comfort and reliability but we have managed it with these special bushes on a torsion beam axle,” he said.</p><p></p><p>“Also the torsion beam axle is much, much better than multi-link suspension in terms of road noise, so we selected that in reducing road noise for customers.</p><p></p><p>“We got a lot of complaints (about the noise) from the media.”</p><p></p><p>Mr Fujiwara revealed that Mazda was inspired by some of the better French torsion beam applications such as the one employed in the T9-series Peugeot 308, which also features related bush component designs to quell noise, vibration and harshness intrusion into the cabin.</p><p></p><p>“We investigated the Peugeot, of course,” he said, acknowledging that it was one of the prime benchmarks for the next-generation Mazda3.”</p><p></p><p>-----------------</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrCat, post: 24594951, member: 38575"] [SIZE="4"]Also, about independent rear suspension, just read that the 2019 Corolla is having an independent multi-link rear. This is after many many years, possibly after the AE110 series from memory (I could be wrong here). I heard or read somewhere that car manufactures would save an average of 300 dollars per car from having live axel rears as opposed to independent. Strange that Mazda went the other way around after having excellent suspension dynamics for many previous generations. Looks like they are trying to defend the decision though :D [/SIZE] Source : [url]https://www.goauto.com.au/news/mazda/mazda3/mazda-defends-small-car-suspension-rethink/2017-09-10/65426.html[/url] ----------------- “Mr Fujiwara said the change was not based on cost grounds – even though a multi-link suspension is typically a more complicated and expensive design than torsion beam – but to improve refinement as well as dynamic performance. “Changing from the multi-link to a torsion beam was definitely not on cost grounds,” he said. “We are focusing on the value for the customer, therefore we selected this kind of torsion beam axle instead of the multi-link suspension. “Also, our expert in chassis dynamics already has tested (the new platform) for high-speed, bumpy roads, and everything is better than the current Mazda3’s multi-link suspension.” Mr Fujiwara explained that newly developed rubber bushes in the trailing link of the new suspension had met the company’s requirements. “So far, it’s been very difficult meeting vehicle dynamics, ride comfort and reliability but we have managed it with these special bushes on a torsion beam axle,” he said. “Also the torsion beam axle is much, much better than multi-link suspension in terms of road noise, so we selected that in reducing road noise for customers. “We got a lot of complaints (about the noise) from the media.” Mr Fujiwara revealed that Mazda was inspired by some of the better French torsion beam applications such as the one employed in the T9-series Peugeot 308, which also features related bush component designs to quell noise, vibration and harshness intrusion into the cabin. “We investigated the Peugeot, of course,” he said, acknowledging that it was one of the prime benchmarks for the next-generation Mazda3.” ----------------- [/QUOTE]
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