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    Power Supply Model
    Power Rating
    PCI Express Power Connectors
    Supports single 9800 GTX
    Supports single 9800 GX2
    2theMax RF Extreme 750
    750W
    Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    AcBel Model PC6018
    700W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    AcBel Model PC7030
    750W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Amacrox AX1000-GLN
    1000W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Amacrox AX750-EP
    750W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Amacrox AX850-EP
    850W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Andyson AD-5600N2-18/AD-5620N2-yy
    600W
    One 6-pin, One 8-pin
    Y
    Antec Quattro TPQ-1000
    1000W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
    Antec Quattro TPQ-850
    850W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Antec SG-850
    850W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Antec SG-650
    650W
    One 6-pin, One 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
    ATNG APE-1100FM
    950W
    Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    ATNG APE-1100XM
    950W
    Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    ATNG Power APE-1100X(F) APFC PLUS
    950W
    Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    BFG ES-800
    800W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Channel Well CWT-1000VC
    1000W
    Three 6-pin Three 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Channel Well CWT-1200VC
    1200W
    Three 6-pin Three 8-pin
    Y
    Channel Well CWT-750VH
    750W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Compucase (HEC ) HEC750DR-AT
    750W
    Two 8-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Cooler Master Real Power Pro (RS-C50-EMBA-D2)
    1250W
    Six 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Cooler Master Real Power Pro (RS-750-ACAA-A1)
    750W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Cooler Master Real Power Pro RS-A00-EFAM-A3
    1000W
    Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Cooler Master Real Power M700 RS-700-ASAA-A1
    700W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Cooler Master Silent Pro M700 (RS-700-AMBA-D3)
    700W
    Two 8-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Cooler Master Silent Pro M600 (RS-600-AMBA-D3)
    600W
    Two 8-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Corsair HX1000W 1000W
    1000W
    Six 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
    Enermax EGX850EWL
    850W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Enlight ECP-750AAB A
    750W
    Four 6-pin
    Y
    FSP Group Epsilon 80 Plus
    800W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin
    Y
    FSP Group Epsilon 80 Plus
    900W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin
    Y
    FSP Epsilon 80Plus 700
    700W
    One 6-pin, One 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
    FSP Everest 800
    800W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    FSP Everest 900
    900W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Gigabyte Odin (GE-MK20A-D1)
    1200W
    Three 6-pin, Three 8-pin
    Y
    Kingwin ABT-1000MA1S
    1000W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Meridian XClio Diamondpower
    880W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin adapter Two 6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Meridian XClio Diamondpower
    1080W
    Three 6-pin Three 8-pin adapter Two 6-pin
    Y
    Meridian XClio Diamondpower
    680W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin adapter Two 6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Mtek Fonte Real Extreme 1200W
    1200W
    Three 6-pin, Three 8-pin *
    Y
    Y
    Mtek Fonte Real Extreme 1000W
    1000W
    Three 6-pin, Three 8-pin *
    Y
    Y
    OCZ EliteXStream
    1000W
    Four 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
    OCZ EliteXStream 800W
    800W
    Four 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
    PC Power and Cooling Silencer 500W EPS12V
    500W
    One 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
    PC Power and Cooling Silencer 500W (Dell)
    500W
    One 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
    PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool
    1200W
    Three 6-pin Two 8-pin adapter Three 6-pin
    Y
    Y
    PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool
    1000W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 860
    860W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Powerex REX-1000AS
    1000W
    Four 8-pin, Four 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Powerex REX-850AS
    750W
    Four 6-pin
    Y
    Powerex XF - 850AMC
    750W
    Four 6-pin
    Y
    Powerex REX - 750AS
    750W
    Four 6-pin
    Y
    Powerex XF - 750AMC
    750W
    Four 6-pin
    Y
    Raidmax RX-1000
    1000W
    Four 6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Raidmax RX-900
    750W
    Four 6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Sigma SP-900
    900W
    Four 6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Sigma SP-1000
    1000
    Four 6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Silverstone Decathlon DA1200
    1200W
    Four 6-pin or Four 8-pin or Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Silverstone Strider ST1000
    1000W
    Four 6-pin or Four 8-pin or Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Sirtec HPC-1000-G14C
    1000W
    Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Sparkle SPI900GCM
    900W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Sparkle SPI1000GCM
    1000W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    SPI Electronic Co., Ltd Epsilon 800
    800W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Super Flower SF-1000R14HE
    1000W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Super Flower SF-1100R14HE
    1100W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Super Flower SF-850R14HE
    850W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Super Talent Atomic Juice PS-700
    700W
    One 6-pin, One 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    TACENS Superpro 1000
    1000W
    Four 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    TACENS Superpro 700
    700W
    Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Tagan BZ1300
    1300W
    Four 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Tagan ITZ1300
    1300W
    Four 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Tagan ITZ1100
    1300W
    Four 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Tagan BZ1100
    1100W
    Four 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Tagan BZ900
    900W
    Two 6-pin, two 6-pin/8-pin
    Y
    Tagan BZ800
    800W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin/6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Tagan ITZ800
    800W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Tagan TG1100-U96
    1000W
    Four 6-pin*
    Y
    Tagan TG-900-U96
    900W
    Four 6-pin
    Y
    Thermaltake Toughpower W0133 Cable Management
    1200W
    Three 8-pin Three 6-pin
    Y
    Y
    Thermaltake Toughpower W0172 850 AP-1
    850W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Thermaltake Toughpower (W0172)
    850W
    Two 6-pin, Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Topower EP-1200P10
    1200W
    Six 6-pin or Four 6-pin+Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    Topower EP-1200P10-T2
    1200W
    Six 6-pin or Four 6-pin/8-pin +Two 8-pin
    Y
    Y
    XIGMATEK NRP-HC1001
    1000W
    Three 6-pin, Three 8-pin*
    Y
    Y
    XIGMATEK NRP-HC1201
    1200W
    Three 6-pin, Three 8-pin*
    Y
    Y
    XIGMATEK NRP-HC1501
    1500W
    Four 6-pin, Four 8-pin*
    Y
    Y
    Zalman ZM850-HP
    850W
    Two 6-pin Two 8-pin/6-pin *
    Y
    Y
     

    sihina_lahiru

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    NOTE: A number of system power supplies in the market use a modular power connector to provide 6-pin and 8-pin outputs from the same cable. These power supplies have PCI-E Express Power Connectors listed as “8-pin/6-pin” in the table below. A subset of these modular connectors have a mechanical latch that is too wide and do not fit the 8-pin PCI-E power connector on the GeForce 9800 GX2 graphics card and are marked with an asterisk (*) in the table. These power supplies will work with the GeForce 9800 GX2 GPU with a PCI Express power connector adapter. NVIDIA is working with graphics card manufacturers and power supply vendors to offer an adapter to affected customers. Please contact your manufacturer of your product to obtain a replacement connector.
     

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    NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT


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    Nvidia announced today the widespread availability of its new mainstream GPU, the GeForce 8800 GT. The new GPU has all the GeForce 8 series features, including a unified shader architecture and DirectX 10, as well as additional support for PCI Express 2.0 and dual-link DVI video support. To establish some perspective, watching Nvidia fill out its GeForce 8 series graphics-processor line has been a fitful experience for many budget-minded PC enthusiasts. Nvidia first launched the GeForce 8 series in November 2006 with the GeForce 8800 GTX and the GeForce 8800 GTS. The cards offered fantastic performance, but hardly anyone could afford to pay $500 or $600, and so we waited.
    Then came the GeForce 8600, 8500, 8400, and 8300 GPUs--all decent products for entry-level gaming systems, but, with prices below $150, none offer 3D performance comparable to the GeForce 8800 GTX or the GTS. The $300 GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB came close to the $200-250 sweet spot that gamers crave, but the price was a little too high, and performance, though good, wasn't amazing enough to make it a must-have card.
     

    sihina_lahiru

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    Nvidia was offering us only small bites around the perimeter of the GeForce 8 shortbread cookie, when what we really wanted was the dollop of strawberry jam sitting in the middle. If you imagine the most delicious jam in the world--made from ambrosia, beautiful strawberries, and hand-stirred by Oompa-Loompas--it would probably taste like a GeForce 8800 GT.
    The GeForce 8800 GT's $199-$259 estimated price slots the card between the GeForce 8800 GTS and the GeForce 8600 GTS on the price scale, but the GT's exceptional 3D processing power places it closer to the GeForce 8800 GTX in performance. Initial 512MB cards such as our XFX GeForce 8800 GT will retail closer to the $249 mark, but several card manufacturers will also release GeForce 8800 GT cards with 256MB of memory to hit the lower $199 price point in the coming weeks. Also, expect manufacturers to venture into the $275-$300 range by offering preoverclocked 512MB GeForce 8800 GTs.
    PC owners won't have any trouble fitting the single-slot XFX GeForce 8800 GT into their systems. You just find an open PCI Express graphics slot and slide the card inside. However, like most modern video cards, the XFX requires an additional 6-pin power cable from the system power supply. XFX recommends using a 500W power supply for single-card systems and 600W or more for a dual-card SLI system.
     

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    Nvidia was able to lower the price and increase performance by redesigning the chip and shrinking the manufacturing process from 90nm down to 65nm. The older 90nm GPUs required card manufacturers to add a separate display chip onto each card, but that functionality is now integrated into the GeForce 8800 GT. The GPU also includes an upgraded PureVideo processing engine. PureVideo performs HD DVD and Blu-ray high-definition video decoding work, which is usually done on the CPU. Moving the work to the GPU will let people watch HD video content on systems with less powerful CPUs. The GeForce 8800 GT has two dual-link HDCP DVI connectors, which let 30" widescreen LCD owners watch HD movies in full-screen at 2560x1600.

    GPUGeForce 8800 GTGeForce 8800 GTSGeForce 8800 GTX Price$249 $279 (320MB), $375 (640MB)$499 Stream Processors11296128 Shader Clock1.5GHz1.2GHz1.35GHz Core Clock600MHz500MHz575MHz Memory512MB GDDR3320MB-640MB GDDR3768MB GDDR3 Memory Clock900MHz800MHz900MHz Memory Interface256-bit320-bit384-bit The GeForce 8800 GT features 112 stream processors clocked at 1.5GHz, which is close to the GeForce 8800 GTX's 128 stream processors clocked at 1.35GHz and much better than the GeForce 8800 GTS's 96 stream processors clocked at 1.2GHz. The GTX and GTS cards still have superior 384-bit and 320-bit memory interfaces, respectively, but many high-end GPUs still use a 256-bit memory interface just like the GeForce 8800 GT. If the GeForce 8800 GTS sounds like the odd card out, that's because it is. Nvidia has already discontinued the 320MB version and is keeping the 640MB around only to satisfy channel demand. Nvidia will have to upgrade the GTS soon if the company wants to keep the brand relevant in the GeForce 8800 GT era.
     

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    System Setup: Intel Core 2 X6800, Intel 975XBX2, eVGA 680i, 2GB Corsair XMS Memory (1GBx2), 750GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA Hard Disk Drive, Windows XP Professional SP2, Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit. Graphics Cards: GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB, GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB, GeForce 8800 GT 512MB, Radeon HD 2900 XT 512MB. Graphics Drivers: Nvidia ForceWare 169.01, ATI Catalyst 7.10.
    Our performance numbers show the XFX GeForce 8800 GT coming in slightly behind the GeForce 8800 GTX but ahead of the GeForce 8800 GTS and the Radeon 2900 XT in all of the games we tested except for BioShock, where the Radeon outperformed the GT. We're not sure why the GeForce 8800 GTX SLI system also gave us a lower than expected framerate result in World in Conflict, but the GT and the Radeon both showed framerate gains in dual-card mode.
    The GeForce 8800 GT's performance is impressive when you consider that the GT costs only $249 compared to $500 for the GTX. You could spend the same amount of money on two GeForce 8800 GT cards to create a dual-card SLI setup that will handily beat a single GeForce 8800 GTX. It's pretty shocking how much performance value the GT offers in comparison to the most powerful cards on the market--you're getting top-of-the-line performance at a mainstream price point. Anyone looking to build a Windows Vista gaming system should start with the GeForce 8800 GT.
    The GeForce 8800 GT is the GPU to buy for this holiday season, and the XFX GeForce 8800 GT is an excellent card based on Nvidia's new blockbuster chip. It's affordable, supports both DirectX 9 and DirectX 10, and has more than enough performance power to handle graphics-heavy games such as BioShock, World in Conflict, Crysis, Unreal Tournament 3, and Hellgate: London. The XFX GeForce 8800 GT ships today with a $249.99 MSRP.
     

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    NVIDIA GFORCE 9600GT




    A year ago today the cheapest DirectX 10 graphics card on the market was the GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB from NVIDIA. While the 8800 GTS was an impressive performer, putting up numbers that were stronger than a 7900 GTX or Radeon X1950 XTX, the GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB was priced at over $400, making it far from an affordable upgrade for many enthusiasts. As a result, gamers on a budget that were looking for an affordable DirectX 10 graphics card were eagerly awaiting the arrival of the GeForce 8600 family and, a few months later, the Radeon HD 2600 series.

    Let’s just say that many enthusiasts were terribly disappointed with the performance of these first generation DX10 mainstream cards.

    The GeForce 8600 GTS debuted back in April with much fanfare. We were all eager to see how powerful NVIDIA’s latest mainstream offering would be. If you recall, NVIDIA had just released a trio of new mainstream DX9 GPUs just prior to the 8600 GTS’ release that included the GeForce 7900 GS, the 7950 GT, and the 7900 GTO. The EVGA e-GeForce 7900 GTO in particular had really struck a chord with us as it offered performance that was near that of a 7900 GTX, but at a much more affordable $250 price tag. So when the GeForce 8600 GTS debuted delivering performance that was roughly on par with the 7900 GS, gamers were left scratching their heads: the 8600 GTS was hardly an improvement over the GeForce 7900 GS or Radeon X1950 Pro. Many gamers plucked up these cards and passed on the 8600 GTS.


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    AMD’s Radeon HD 2600 launch wasn’t any better in the eyes of enthusiasts. The 2600 was actually slower than the GeForce 8600 GTS and Radeon X1950 Pro!

    For the most part, enthusiasts shopping the $200 graphics market opted to hang on to their GeForce 7900 GS and X1950 Pro cards hoping for something better to come along. As the months passed, nothing came. Those that could afford it picked up the GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB, but with its $300 price tag even it was a little too much coin for some to stomach. The GeForce 8800 GT delivered such an incredible price/performance ratio that a lot of gamers that were holding out ultimately picked one of these cards up, but shortages and retailer markups significantly hampered things early on.

    Then in November the market finally got what it wanted thanks to AMD’s Radeon HD 3850: an inexpensive, sub-$200 graphics card that was a compelling upgrade over the X1950 Pro and 7900 GS. Sure, it wasn’t as fast as the GeForce 8800 GT, but it cost roughly $80-$100 less and frequently outperformed the GeForce 8600 GTS by over 30%, making it the fastest sub-$200 graphics card on the market.

    The 3850 became an overnight sales success for AMD with thousands of boards being sold just ahead of Christmas.


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    NVIDIA and their board partners tried to counter the 3850 with the 8800 GT 256MB, but they just couldn’t get their pricing in line with estimates and the lower frame buffer memory really curtailed performance at higher resolutions. The GeForce 8800 GS was most recently concocted to rival the Radeon 3850, but with its continued use of the G92 graphics core it just wasn’t a cost effective way to counter AMD’s $180 offering. A new GPU that was cheaper to produce was needed, and it was needed fast. This is where the G94 GPU comes in.

    The G94 GPU used in today’s GeForce 9600 GT launch was rushed into service to take on the Radeon HD 3850. G94 uses fewer transistors than G92 – 505 million versus 754 million – making it cheaper to manufacture for NVIDIA. But what about performance? That’s what we’re here today to find out!
     

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    The good:
    Faster performance than anything from ATI in this price range; makes most games playable at medium or better quality settings (depending on resolution); box includes all necessary cables and adapters.
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    The bad: Still requires audio pass-through cable for audio output over HDMI.
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    The bottom line: Nvidia's new GeForce 9600 GT graphics chip gives the Asus EN9600 GT some of the best bang-for-the-buck we've seen in a midrange 3D card. If your goal is reliable frame rates in the latest PC games, you should pick this card up as soon as you can.
    Specifications: Graphics Processor / Vendor: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT ; Max Resolution (external): 2560 x 1600 ; Video Memory Installed: 512 MB ;

     

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    Asus EN9600 GT ATI Radeon HD 3870 Price $169 - $189 $199 - $250 Manufacturing process 65nm 55nm Core clock 650MHz 775MHz Stream processors 64 320 Memory 512MB 512MB Memory speed (data rate) 1.8GHz 2.25GHz Memory Interface 256-bit 256-bit
     

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    The bottom line is that the performance of this GeForce 9600 GT came as a pleasant surprise Despite the chip having only 64 stream processors, 38% lower processing power, and 33% fewer transistors, gaming performance was only 12% below the 8800 GT on average. And it was even better than the 8800 GT 256 MB, by an amount ranging from 1% without antialiasing, up to 45% with it enabled. The 8800 GT 256 MB is greatly hampered by its 256 MB of memory, and these results mean that it is really no longer even worth considering! Meaning that it was an extremely good choice to put 512 MB of memory on the 9600 GT, even if that doesn't account for everything, since the 8800 GT has the same amount.
    The upshot is that the 9600 GT puts Nvidia in a much more favorable position to compete with AMD. First, the HD 3850 is beaten hands down performance-wise, since even compared to its 512 MB version (which can be found on sale at 165-170 €, the expected MSRP for the 9600 GT), performance was approximately 15% better. Only the 256 MB version still has no competition, given its 140 € price point.
    As for the HD 3870, currently available starting at 180 €, we can only recommend it to people who don't use antialiasing - with that restriction, its performance remains better than the 9600 GT's (by 5%). Once antialiasing is enabled, the performance spread is the same, but this time in favor of the 9600 GT, due to AMD's uncorrected ROPs. But in any event, we can only congratulate Nvidia on the quality of the 9600 GT's performance, especially considering that it has close to 2.5 times less raw power than the HD 3870! So the GeForce 9600 GT currently has more arguments in its favor than the HD 3870 - but keeping in mind the aggressive pricing policy that AMD is capable of wielding, that situation could evolve down the road.
    As proof of that last statement, AMD called us less than 24 hours before the end of this test to announce a sudden and significant drop in the price of its Radeon HD 3000 series. In the US, the MSRP of the HD 3870 will go from $245 to $189, and the HD 3850 512 MB from $199 to $169! That will again put AMD on top where price is concerned, compared to Nvidia's offering.
    For now we have to see how Nvidia will react to the news... It's an unending war and it's hard to stay on top of. But in this particular battle there's no doubt who the winner is: the consumer!
    Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT

    This card is a valid replacement for the GeForce 8800 GT 256 MB, and is the best low-cost solution for gamers who play with antialiasing enabled. Without the filters enabled, its performance drops behind the HD 3870 (while still staying ahead of the HD 3850s), but its price is expected to be slightly lower than that of the AMD card.
    Pros
    • Performance/price ratio
    • The best card in its price range for performance with antialiasing enabled
    • Reduced power consumption and noise
    Cons
    • Performance below that of the HD 3870 without filters
    • Not really any more a "GeForce 9" card than the 8800 GTs
    Performance Recap

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    Here are the average scores for each card for all the games, Crysis included. Since STALKER wasn't tested with antialiasing, it's naturally excluded from the with-filters averages.
     

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    Machan still ATI 4870X2 is the best (high-end) card.....GTX 295 is not a awesome dual GPU card... And best single GPU card is GTX 285...Talk abt it...

    ATI' will get their crown back with HD 4890 & somtimes 4890X2....
    ATI gives best for our money....Nvidia is jast blood suckers...