One who kills get killed.... (Can Janaka Perera be an exception....? )

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"Chetana hang Bhikkawe kammang wadami"
Buddha said clearly.
:shocked:
Even an intention creats a karma for one.
Good and bad karma.
Let us discuss Janaka's death in that context...
According to the 5 Niyama Dharma,Kamma is only one cause of five causes when something happens. But Kamma can come back to some one in 3 ways or will be desolved without results...
So Janaka's death 'could be' a result of the killings he did and ordered to kill while he was in army. Only a Buddha can tell if it is not. But sooner or later one has to pay for the Karmas one commits.

I don't know whether Buddha diferenciate or justified any killing whatsoever as not a sin... a bad karma... But many monks do justify... But for Buddha they are just Bhikkus... not Sangha. One has to become Sotapanna to be a part of Sangha.
This is a vicious circle... Not only the people who decided and killed Janaka and others but who rejoiced have commited a bad karma... If one kills someone as a result of a past Karma of the victim the murderer too comits the same bad karma.. and evryone who agrees with them.
In a past life Buddha rejoiced a bunch oh fish killed by some fishermen. It is said that it gave results even after he became the Buddha.
So... even if one becomes Samma Sambuddha one has to pay for the Karmas one commit.
I wonder how many of us unnecessarily takes part as Tamils or Sinhalese, in the mass killings which happened for 30+ years. Terrorists, Politicians and everybody who directly helps war gains something or the other....
By uplifting and rejoicing we indirectly create bad karma and eventually will pay, in this life or in a future life.
That is a natural law... So one can conclude that Janaka's death as natural...
One who kills get killed eventually.:confused: ?????????
 

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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    "Chetana hang Bhikkawe kammang wadami"
    Buddha said clearly.
    :shocked:
    Even an intention creats a karma for one.
    Good and bad karma.
    Let us discuss Janaka's death in that context...
    According to the 5 Niyama Dharma,Kamma is only one cause of five causes when something happens. But Kamma can come back to some one in 3 ways or will be desolved without results...
    So Janaka's death 'could be' a result of the killings he did and ordered to kill while he was in army. Only a Buddha can tell if it is not. But sooner or later one has to pay for the Karmas one commits.

    I don't know whether Buddha diferenciate or justified any killing whatsoever as not a sin... a bad karma... But many monks do justify... But for Buddha they are just Bhikkus... not Sangha. One has to become Sotapanna to be a part of Sangha.
    This is a vicious circle... Not only the people who decided and killed Janaka and others but who rejoiced have commited a bad karma... If one kills someone as a result of a past Karma of the victim the murderer too comits the same bad karma.. and evryone who agrees with them.
    In a past life Buddha rejoiced a bunch oh fish killed by some fishermen. It is said that it gave results even after he became the Buddha.
    So... even if one becomes Samma Sambuddha one has to pay for the Karmas one commit.
    I wonder how many of us unnecessarily takes part as Tamils or Sinhalese, in the mass killings which happened for 30+ years. Terrorists, Politicians and everybody who directly helps war gains something or the other....
    By uplifting and rejoicing we indirectly create bad karma and eventually will pay, in this life or in a future life.
    That is a natural law... So one can conclude that Janaka's death as natural...
    One who kills get killed eventually.:confused: ?????????

    Would be the same as "one who lives by the sword dies by it as well"

    But, what's the point you are trying to make here?
     

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    Really, I cant understand your point too...........I dont think anyone of the opinion of Janaka Perera is an exception to law of Karma.............
     

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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    "Chetana hang Bhikkawe kammang wadami"
    Buddha said clearly.
    :shocked:
    Even an intention creats a karma for one.
    Good and bad karma.
    Let us discuss Janaka's death in that context...
    According to the 5 Niyama Dharma,Kamma is only one cause of five causes when something happens. But Kamma can come back to some one in 3 ways or will be desolved without results...
    So Janaka's death 'could be' a result of the killings he did and ordered to kill while he was in army. Only a Buddha can tell if it is not. But sooner or later one has to pay for the Karmas one commits.

    I don't know whether Buddha diferenciate or justified any killing whatsoever as not a sin... a bad karma... But many monks do justify... But for Buddha they are just Bhikkus... not Sangha. One has to become Sotapanna to be a part of Sangha.
    This is a vicious circle... Not only the people who decided and killed Janaka and others but who rejoiced have commited a bad karma... If one kills someone as a result of a past Karma of the victim the murderer too comits the same bad karma.. and evryone who agrees with them.
    In a past life Buddha rejoiced a bunch oh fish killed by some fishermen. It is said that it gave results even after he became the Buddha.
    So... even if one becomes Samma Sambuddha one has to pay for the Karmas one commit.
    I wonder how many of us unnecessarily takes part as Tamils or Sinhalese, in the mass killings which happened for 30+ years. Terrorists, Politicians and everybody who directly helps war gains something or the other....
    By uplifting and rejoicing we indirectly create bad karma and eventually will pay, in this life or in a future life.
    That is a natural law... So one can conclude that Janaka's death as natural...
    One who kills get killed eventually.:confused: ?????????
    r u tryin to be a joker or what......r u drunk bro..if u have @ least nothin to say..then please shut ur ass like mouth n go n have nap... dont try to act insane here...:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
     

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    mate i did not red all of the above thing. What is the point? if you are trying to say that janaka perera should die cos he killed, he was working for the milatary. he was a reputed person. its not good to talk like that brother. its about the country.

    correct me if i misunderstood you
     

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    According to your logic, all the soldiers might resign. Madness...
     
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    I knew that many would not understand what I reported.
    It is not based on what I think. It is Buddha's words which I agree.
    Rulers and their enemies of them will do what ever they think right for maintaining power or grabbing power. So they need people who agree with them... But we have to take responsibility for what we do, say or think.
    If you are not worried about of the result you can act anyway you want. Nobody can stop you.
    But I am happy that no one said that killing will not create bad karma. They are just angry because the realiation hurts.
    I know that they agree with Buddha...but they don't like to think of it.
    But they are basically good people... just been tricked and deceived.
    That is understandable.
    When one enjoys a piece of chicken if another one tells him that he is eating a piece of a cock or a hen once alive... he would feel very angry..
    But that is true... only unacceptable at the moment.
     
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    Hey you ASS then what about the World greatest Killer Terroris Prbha Fucker.......What do you say for him does he have to live as per your fucking point.........We dont what your terrorist comment ASS...........
     
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    Martin said:
    According to your logic, all the soldiers might resign. Madness...
    Oh.. No...No...:shocked:
    my friend,
    Why should they?
    Why should I try to do what even Buddha never tried.
    At Buddha's time their were rulers with armies...waging war..
    But there is no record that Buddha did or said anything to stop what is happening.
    Everyone has his own time to realize....
    Ignorance is the cause of suffering... It is not stupidity...
    Ignorance is a beautiful word...
    It means one just ignores... not blind to the truth.
    :yes:
     

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    dude im not a buddhist but i understand wat ur trying to say. ur trying to say da buddha said dat one gets killed in a bad way coz he has also done sumthing simmilar? is dat wat ur trying to say. well u cant help it ne wen ur in da military.

    i dont know abt buddhism so much but in islam it says u can engage in war ONLY when ur RELIGION is in danger and not n e thing else. if you fight for the RELIGION then its a good deed. if u fight and kill for other purposes then its a sin how ever the way u justify it.

    well dats all i have to say.
     

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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    "Chetana hang Bhikkawe kammang wadami"
    Buddha said clearly.
    :shocked:
    Even an intention creats a karma for one.
    Good and bad karma.
    Let us discuss Janaka's death in that context...
    According to the 5 Niyama Dharma,Kamma is only one cause of five causes when something happens. But Kamma can come back to some one in 3 ways or will be desolved without results...
    So Janaka's death 'could be' a result of the killings he did and ordered to kill while he was in army. Only a Buddha can tell if it is not. But sooner or later one has to pay for the Karmas one commits.

    I don't know whether Buddha diferenciate or justified any killing whatsoever as not a sin... a bad karma... But many monks do justify... But for Buddha they are just Bhikkus... not Sangha. One has to become Sotapanna to be a part of Sangha.
    This is a vicious circle... Not only the people who decided and killed Janaka and others but who rejoiced have commited a bad karma... If one kills someone as a result of a past Karma of the victim the murderer too comits the same bad karma.. and evryone who agrees with them.
    In a past life Buddha rejoiced a bunch oh fish killed by some fishermen. It is said that it gave results even after he became the Buddha.
    So... even if one becomes Samma Sambuddha one has to pay for the Karmas one commit.
    I wonder how many of us unnecessarily takes part as Tamils or Sinhalese, in the mass killings which happened for 30+ years. Terrorists, Politicians and everybody who directly helps war gains something or the other....
    By uplifting and rejoicing we indirectly create bad karma and eventually will pay, in this life or in a future life.
    That is a natural law... So one can conclude that Janaka's death as natural...
    One who kills get killed eventually.:confused: ?????????

    Den Can u explain waz da reason 4 Jeyarak fernandopulle' death?????
    He ddnt kill anyone,Bt he was killed by LTTE....
    So wat karma killed hm????
    So we cant use your point in everywhere
    Den it becomes a bullshit
     
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    Tharindu Chat said:
    Den Can u explain waz da reason 4 Jeyarak fernandopulle' death?????
    He ddnt kill anyone,Bt he was killed by LTTE....
    So wat karma killed hm????
    So we cant use your point in everywhere
    Den it becomes a bullshit
    You have not read the full post...:confused:
    Karma is only one of 5 niyama dharma. We don't know even a karma was the cause for Janaka's death... But if one kills intentionally that karma will come back in this life or a future one... About that Buddha says one can't find a place to hide when the result of a bad karma comes.
    One of the 5 niyama is Dhamma. Natural law.. If one is just present when a bomb blast happens he will be killed even if he has not done any Karma in this or any of his past lives.
    If Jeyaraj had not commited any bad karma in his past lives to get killed it can be the other niyama dharma....:yes: