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<blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 7274563" data-attributes="member: 262433"><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">My dear friend, I know this is not true. Its not that you don't get any questions. It's just that you are afraid to talk about them. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I dont know the word melaine, can you explain it? </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Shows how close minded you are. You just want to assume things that benefits you. Just like all the rest of you guys, you are so determined to label someone as ANTI-ISLAM as soon as he raises a genuine question that has been there for centuries. I do not blame you. This defense mechanism is built in to your brain, from the day you began to learn Islam. "You do not ever question Islam. Anyone who does has no other motive than insulting Islam. Label them as ANTI-ISLAM."</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">You do not leave a margin for anyone to judge your religion, by asking simple questions. You find them difficult to answer. You get the same questions in your mind. But since its forbidden to think, your reaction would be to label the knowledge seeker.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Without answering the simple questions, you ask them to learn true Islam. You are so blinded that you cannot see, a non believer will not move on to deeper concepts, if he cannot see logic, answers to simple questions first. Islam asks you to teach your religion, but you fail to see how it should be done. To carry on Allah's will why can't you just think straight for once? Insulting or not, these questions will educate people about Islam. These questions will help a non believer to understand it. The logics in your answers will prove the logics in Islam. </span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">The foundation of the Islam is faith. Your faith brings you close to your GOD. Why you can't understand that a non believer will not hold any value in faith? Answer his questions and do your duty for Islam, without uttering useless words. If you don't like to do it, why do you come to this thread in the first place? </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">A definition of pedophilia has nothing to do with the original question. He can be a pedophile or not. The questions is, being a middle aged man why did he marry a girl of 6? knowing what that action would do to future society why did he still conduct it? Can't he simply understand what is right and what is wrong? You do not need to defend anyone's actions, I'm not accusing anyone. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">percentage of his wives who were 6 when he married - 9%.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">So does the small percentage make the action less important?</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">Here's something for you to think about.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">There's a murderer in the prison, his statistics are as follows.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">Percentage of crimes that are not murders - 99%</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">Percentage of crimes that are murders - 1%</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">So his murder is out of ordinary, He normally do robberies assaults ans stuff like that. Should he not be charged for the murder????</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">I just brought this to show the lack of logic in this argument. Not to accuse anyone of anything.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I agree. By today's standards it is considered rape. But maybe not by those days standards.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">You see this is where I disagree. His actions have clearly resulted in child marriages, rape, abuses, deaths today. So I cannot understand how one would feel this.</span></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I do not claim this. I just asked what do you think? Is this child abuse? Why not? Nevertheless what has his actions done to today's society?</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Fair enough.</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Why did he needed to marry her for this?</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Why didn't he utilize the capabilities of an adult woman? Why did he had to marry her and have sex with her at the age of 9 to utilise her capabilities for the sake of Islam?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">So GOD asked him to marry a child and have sex with her? Endangering her life and thousands of others in future? Does GOD understand right and wrong???</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> There's no question about Aisha's importance to Islam <span style="color: Red">After</span> she spent a decade with the prophet. There's no question about her intelligence or skills. The question is why couldn't prophet choose a mature woman who is intelligent to pass his knowledge, why a child?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I do not have any problem with Islam or any other religion. And I do not want to blame any religion, as long as it does not harm anyone. If Islam is responsible for child marriages, rapes, abuses, deaths today, I blame Islam. Is there anything else to blame other than what's responsible?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Having said that I know it is not right to blame anyone but the person who committed the action and those who helped him. These actions are carried out by men in the name of Islam. It's a shame that people's actions reflect on the religion. </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">or maybe its the other way around.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Machan be realistic. These kind of statements add nothing. We all know Islam is perfect for muslims. And we all know Islam is not considered perfect by others. I mean, come on man.. We are trying to discuss here.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Right, like you are desperately trying to defend his actions?</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">We all have an agenda here, or else we would not be here. I know what my agen</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">da is.. But what amazes me is that you seems to know other peoples motives as well.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">What toilet are you talking about here?<span style="color: Red"> Are you comparing Islam to a toilet</span>??? And what is the other toilet you are talking about?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AncientGlory, post: 7274563, member: 262433"] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]My dear friend, I know this is not true. Its not that you don't get any questions. It's just that you are afraid to talk about them. [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]I dont know the word melaine, can you explain it? [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Shows how close minded you are. You just want to assume things that benefits you. Just like all the rest of you guys, you are so determined to label someone as ANTI-ISLAM as soon as he raises a genuine question that has been there for centuries. I do not blame you. This defense mechanism is built in to your brain, from the day you began to learn Islam. "You do not ever question Islam. Anyone who does has no other motive than insulting Islam. Label them as ANTI-ISLAM." You do not leave a margin for anyone to judge your religion, by asking simple questions. You find them difficult to answer. You get the same questions in your mind. But since its forbidden to think, your reaction would be to label the knowledge seeker. Without answering the simple questions, you ask them to learn true Islam. You are so blinded that you cannot see, a non believer will not move on to deeper concepts, if he cannot see logic, answers to simple questions first. Islam asks you to teach your religion, but you fail to see how it should be done. To carry on Allah's will why can't you just think straight for once? Insulting or not, these questions will educate people about Islam. These questions will help a non believer to understand it. The logics in your answers will prove the logics in Islam. The foundation of the Islam is faith. Your faith brings you close to your GOD. Why you can't understand that a non believer will not hold any value in faith? Answer his questions and do your duty for Islam, without uttering useless words. If you don't like to do it, why do you come to this thread in the first place? [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]A definition of pedophilia has nothing to do with the original question. He can be a pedophile or not. The questions is, being a middle aged man why did he marry a girl of 6? knowing what that action would do to future society why did he still conduct it? Can't he simply understand what is right and what is wrong? You do not need to defend anyone's actions, I'm not accusing anyone. [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [SIZE=4][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS]percentage of his wives who were 6 when he married - 9%. So does the small percentage make the action less important? Here's something for you to think about. There's a murderer in the prison, his statistics are as follows. Percentage of crimes that are not murders - 99% Percentage of crimes that are murders - 1% So his murder is out of ordinary, He normally do robberies assaults ans stuff like that. Should he not be charged for the murder???? I just brought this to show the lack of logic in this argument. Not to accuse anyone of anything.[/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [FONT=Fixedsys][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]I agree. By today's standards it is considered rape. But maybe not by those days standards.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Fixedsys][SIZE=3] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]You see this is where I disagree. His actions have clearly resulted in child marriages, rape, abuses, deaths today. So I cannot understand how one would feel this.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]I do not claim this. I just asked what do you think? Is this child abuse? Why not? Nevertheless what has his actions done to today's society?[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Fair enough.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Fixedsys][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] Why did he needed to marry her for this?[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Why didn't he utilize the capabilities of an adult woman? Why did he had to marry her and have sex with her at the age of 9 to utilise her capabilities for the sake of Islam? [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]So GOD asked him to marry a child and have sex with her? Endangering her life and thousands of others in future? Does GOD understand right and wrong???[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] There's no question about Aisha's importance to Islam [COLOR=Red]After[/COLOR] she spent a decade with the prophet. There's no question about her intelligence or skills. The question is why couldn't prophet choose a mature woman who is intelligent to pass his knowledge, why a child? [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]I do not have any problem with Islam or any other religion. And I do not want to blame any religion, as long as it does not harm anyone. If Islam is responsible for child marriages, rapes, abuses, deaths today, I blame Islam. Is there anything else to blame other than what's responsible?[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] Having said that I know it is not right to blame anyone but the person who committed the action and those who helped him. These actions are carried out by men in the name of Islam. It's a shame that people's actions reflect on the religion. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]or maybe its the other way around.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Machan be realistic. These kind of statements add nothing. We all know Islam is perfect for muslims. And we all know Islam is not considered perfect by others. I mean, come on man.. We are trying to discuss here.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] Right, like you are desperately trying to defend his actions?[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]We all have an agenda here, or else we would not be here. I know what my agen[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]da is.. But what amazes me is that you seems to know other peoples motives as well.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]What toilet are you talking about here?[COLOR=Red] Are you comparing Islam to a toilet[/COLOR]??? And what is the other toilet you are talking about? [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/QUOTE]
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