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<blockquote data-quote="njsa" data-source="post: 7291601" data-attributes="member: 192214"><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Black">i dont think and there is no such a thing that they take side on their citizen.its all in ur head.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Black">who ever do the mistake deserve the punishment.no matter of their race or cast.i dont say that there is no any crime but there is less comparing to other countries and nowadays no any arab country following the islamic rules except saudi some exent.so no wonder why there is aids and rapes taking place.it is a common accuse crimes are not reported islamic coutries, bt it is wrong even if open BBC and CNN they will show as head lines abt islamic countries crimes and punishments, it become so much important for westerners nowadays.and I hope u know well which the country that has most crime rate in d world. including that country... </span></strong></span></p><p></p><p>You can get AIDS from your legally married partner; on the other hand, not all who have an extra marital relationship get AIDS. But yeah, I can understand you don't want them to die of AIDS; what I don't understand is you are willing to let them be killed...</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>i dont want them to die of anything so i know how to raise my children.if i follow and show them the right way there is no question about adultry or about killing.so i know how to save my kids from hell fire and this life..seems to be you are supporting adulatory.mmm!!..</strong></span></p><p></p><p>You have a point there- in order to avoid being killed...how about teaching them to stay faithful because it's good to be honest, because they love their partner? How about teaching them to leave the marriage if they are interested in another person? Meanwhile, try to build a better and safer world for your child by banning such extremist punishments?</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>do u want to ban the punishment or the crime here.i told u and telling u the same thing.if i raise my kids in a islamic manner so they will know that adultry is a sin.so there is no way they will have trouble in marriage life.provided all things followed as the way islam says.i know men cheat on wife easily so islam tells the men who dont feel like having 1 wife is not enough they can have two three or four maximum.but should be treated the same for all four and islam permit this with lot of restriction, it is very hard to fulfil nowadays..</strong></span>. </p><p></p><p>About that last sentence, how do they get a good life, when they have committed adultery? Obviously they have disobeyed the God and invariably mad at God and Prophet for creating rules that kill her now. Certainly one doesn't praise the God for creating a rule that kills oneself. By the way, you said that story is true- so it means the Prophet created this rule, not God. </p><p>Like I said, God forgives, Men won't-because they think God will not do justice?</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>the story mentioned in thread is that she asked prophet (saw) to punish her coz of her sin.so she repented her self and died as sin less.those who repent god is always there to forgive.!!</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>she wanted to face the punishment here and die as sinless.</strong></span></p><p></p><p>Most governments don't care about their people. Having policemen and rules to punish give only one clear message: "Don't get caught!"</p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>this is ur point of view.i think u always looking things in a abnormal way.police is to control the accidents.anyway in srilanka its to collect bribe.</strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">human always wanted to escape from law as well as from the punishemnt but the government doing their best to catch this culprits such as fixing video cameras tracing the vehicle numbers which will happen in our country after another 100 years.and i said about the traffic rules is just an example.god knows about all who obey and disobey.so may be many can escape in this world but no one can in the life after as God the most wise and all knowing.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">that is the reason why there r more crims and drug addicted kids in europe counties,i.e you might have heard abt shoot out incidents in colleges recently.even if their parents punish them they can call the police and may their parents ended up being jailed.is this a child parent relation ship!!</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>yes brother.its good.we should teach them to be polite and lead a honest life and the commiting adultry is a sin.so no any kid wont have a bad marriage life.so there wont be a talk of punishing them.many options are available as to avoid another crime.i.e as i told divorce and marriage for adultory,zakath(charity) for theft.etc....our aim is to make our generation lead a good life and for that we needed strict rules and regulations to follow.that is what islam is all about.it is not we like to punish some one & enjoy our self</strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>A women never dream of having 72 men as how men interest in girls.but there will be everything what a women wanted and wished.we dont follow our religion just becoz we can be in heaven with virgin but we follow what our creator wanted us to follow which will help us to have a good life here.by following our religion we make this life as nice life.so becoz of following his commands and leading a good life god will reward us by giving heaven and for those who dont obey hell will be granted.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong></strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <strong><span style="font-size: 15px">rules are same for both men and women</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">you have misconception.there is nothing different for men in punishment and they have to follow the same rules.only the different u can see for men and women is the dress cord.</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">im not going to kill any1 and there is a authority/a court as how u have legal law in our country.if i want to forgive my husband and also he want to correct his mistakes i wont go to the muslim court know. those who want and think should punish this culprit for cheating its up to her/him.so the point is if any1 want to forgive its totally up to them and can acknowledge his mistake and seek forgiveness from allah by repenting.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">the thing is u created a picture in ur mind, like a men or women chasing his wife or husband with a knife in order to punish for their adulatory.its not like that.there are certain things which we should follow like eyewitness ,circumstance etc..</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>i dont know how u justifying commiting adultery as simple as having a chewing gum.first u should know how serious it is.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>for us its is a major sin.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>anyway u will never accept this punishmant coz adultry is nothing for u.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>if any1 falsely accuse and there is only 2 women means that the accusation is not acceptable.coz to punish there should be 4 witnesses.so my daughter will be safe.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>and also when any1 give witness they check background of the witnessing person as well as their honesty and the sincerity among that society so it is not so easy in Islam to punish somebody as much as u think..</strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Islam prescribes that both adulterer and adulteress should be stoned but it does not inflict such punishment unless they are married persons and upon conclusive evidence by 4 witnesses who saw everything with complete clarity. Any doubts and the sentence would be commuted. This principle is supported by the saying of the Prophet (s.a.w);</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">“Avoid the execution of punishment by doubt”.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: DarkRed"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Black"><strong>its clear that u dont consider commiting adultry is a sin.so there is no wonder why u are not ready to accept the fact.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Black"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>yes.if some one dont like the person whom they are married to, can just have divorce and look for another partner rather than cheating his or her husband wont be fair enough to forgive.</strong></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="njsa, post: 7291601, member: 192214"] [SIZE="4"][B][COLOR="Black"]i dont think and there is no such a thing that they take side on their citizen.its all in ur head. who ever do the mistake deserve the punishment.no matter of their race or cast.i dont say that there is no any crime but there is less comparing to other countries and nowadays no any arab country following the islamic rules except saudi some exent.so no wonder why there is aids and rapes taking place.it is a common accuse crimes are not reported islamic coutries, bt it is wrong even if open BBC and CNN they will show as head lines abt islamic countries crimes and punishments, it become so much important for westerners nowadays.and I hope u know well which the country that has most crime rate in d world. including that country... [/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] You can get AIDS from your legally married partner; on the other hand, not all who have an extra marital relationship get AIDS. But yeah, I can understand you don't want them to die of AIDS; what I don't understand is you are willing to let them be killed... [SIZE="4"][B]i dont want them to die of anything so i know how to raise my children.if i follow and show them the right way there is no question about adultry or about killing.so i know how to save my kids from hell fire and this life..seems to be you are supporting adulatory.mmm!!..[/B][/SIZE] You have a point there- in order to avoid being killed...how about teaching them to stay faithful because it's good to be honest, because they love their partner? How about teaching them to leave the marriage if they are interested in another person? Meanwhile, try to build a better and safer world for your child by banning such extremist punishments? [SIZE="4"][B]do u want to ban the punishment or the crime here.i told u and telling u the same thing.if i raise my kids in a islamic manner so they will know that adultry is a sin.so there is no way they will have trouble in marriage life.provided all things followed as the way islam says.i know men cheat on wife easily so islam tells the men who dont feel like having 1 wife is not enough they can have two three or four maximum.but should be treated the same for all four and islam permit this with lot of restriction, it is very hard to fulfil nowadays..[/B][/SIZE]. About that last sentence, how do they get a good life, when they have committed adultery? Obviously they have disobeyed the God and invariably mad at God and Prophet for creating rules that kill her now. Certainly one doesn't praise the God for creating a rule that kills oneself. By the way, you said that story is true- so it means the Prophet created this rule, not God. Like I said, God forgives, Men won't-because they think God will not do justice? [SIZE="4"][B]the story mentioned in thread is that she asked prophet (saw) to punish her coz of her sin.so she repented her self and died as sin less.those who repent god is always there to forgive.!! she wanted to face the punishment here and die as sinless.[/B][/SIZE] Most governments don't care about their people. Having policemen and rules to punish give only one clear message: "Don't get caught!" [SIZE="4"][B]this is ur point of view.i think u always looking things in a abnormal way.police is to control the accidents.anyway in srilanka its to collect bribe.[/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE="4"]human always wanted to escape from law as well as from the punishemnt but the government doing their best to catch this culprits such as fixing video cameras tracing the vehicle numbers which will happen in our country after another 100 years.and i said about the traffic rules is just an example.god knows about all who obey and disobey.so may be many can escape in this world but no one can in the life after as God the most wise and all knowing.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE="4"]that is the reason why there r more crims and drug addicted kids in europe counties,i.e you might have heard abt shoot out incidents in colleges recently.even if their parents punish them they can call the police and may their parents ended up being jailed.is this a child parent relation ship!! [/SIZE][/B] [SIZE="4"][B] yes brother.its good.we should teach them to be polite and lead a honest life and the commiting adultry is a sin.so no any kid wont have a bad marriage life.so there wont be a talk of punishing them.many options are available as to avoid another crime.i.e as i told divorce and marriage for adultory,zakath(charity) for theft.etc....our aim is to make our generation lead a good life and for that we needed strict rules and regulations to follow.that is what islam is all about.it is not we like to punish some one & enjoy our self[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE="4"][B]A women never dream of having 72 men as how men interest in girls.but there will be everything what a women wanted and wished.we dont follow our religion just becoz we can be in heaven with virgin but we follow what our creator wanted us to follow which will help us to have a good life here.by following our religion we make this life as nice life.so becoz of following his commands and leading a good life god will reward us by giving heaven and for those who dont obey hell will be granted. [/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE="4"]rules are same for both men and women[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE="4"]you have misconception.there is nothing different for men in punishment and they have to follow the same rules.only the different u can see for men and women is the dress cord.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE="4"]im not going to kill any1 and there is a authority/a court as how u have legal law in our country.if i want to forgive my husband and also he want to correct his mistakes i wont go to the muslim court know. those who want and think should punish this culprit for cheating its up to her/him.so the point is if any1 want to forgive its totally up to them and can acknowledge his mistake and seek forgiveness from allah by repenting. the thing is u created a picture in ur mind, like a men or women chasing his wife or husband with a knife in order to punish for their adulatory.its not like that.there are certain things which we should follow like eyewitness ,circumstance etc..[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE="5"][B]i dont know how u justifying commiting adultery as simple as having a chewing gum.first u should know how serious it is. for us its is a major sin. anyway u will never accept this punishmant coz adultry is nothing for u. if any1 falsely accuse and there is only 2 women means that the accusation is not acceptable.coz to punish there should be 4 witnesses.so my daughter will be safe. and also when any1 give witness they check background of the witnessing person as well as their honesty and the sincerity among that society so it is not so easy in Islam to punish somebody as much as u think..[/B][/SIZE] [COLOR="DarkRed"][B][SIZE="4"]Islam prescribes that both adulterer and adulteress should be stoned but it does not inflict such punishment unless they are married persons and upon conclusive evidence by 4 witnesses who saw everything with complete clarity. Any doubts and the sentence would be commuted. This principle is supported by the saying of the Prophet (s.a.w); “Avoid the execution of punishment by doubt”. [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [SIZE="4"][COLOR="Black"][B]its clear that u dont consider commiting adultry is a sin.so there is no wonder why u are not ready to accept the fact. [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR="black"][SIZE="4"][B]yes.if some one dont like the person whom they are married to, can just have divorce and look for another partner rather than cheating his or her husband wont be fair enough to forgive.[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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