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<blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 7304627" data-attributes="member: 262433"><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. I already agreed that in some countries child marriages are done because of cultural reasons.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">But I also think that in some Muslim countries this is promoted/ excused based on the religion. And I clearly said that I'm not interested in <span style="color: Red">THIS THREAD</span> to talk about those cultural reasons. I'm here to talk about how child marriages are done in ISLAM. I think I'm clear on that. Bringing things from other cultures/religions are not relevant to this topic.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Or are you trying to make the point that, child marriages are normal in some countries, cultures, religions so what's wrong with doing it in Islam?</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Seems like you have not read my previous posts. You just jumped in the middle and assumed I'm an ANTI-ISLAMIC (Which I do not mind now, after seeing this thread. <a href="http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=627000" target="_blank">http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=627000 </a>) and assumed many other things I see. I have repeatedly said times are different, hence customs can be different.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">My question contains my definition of a child.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">And based on your reply, it seems to me that you are ok with having sex with a person disregard of her age, if she reached puberty. So I'm gonna take your opinion on question as "OK".</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">For the nth time, I'm not talking about the prophet Muhammad. I'm talking about a general case to explain, that one wrong deed will define a person, In general. My example makes perfect sense, if you try to understand my motive here is not to accuse your prophet Muhammad.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> Yes Harts list gives an idea to you and also to me about prophet Muhammad. Muhammad being the number one clearly says something. Muhammad is one of the most influential persons in history. I do not deny this, It is a simple fact. And unlike you I do not need to look at someones list to understand that. His followers today is a proof of his influence.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">It amuses me to see that you see being top in the list is some kind of a game, and to see your thrill of finding Hitler was not able to defeat muhammad.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I would also like to point out that book represents Hart's idea. There are other people who talk about the same subject. Majority of such Ideologists, and institutions say Jesus Christ was the most influential man in the History.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">However this is not of importance. Like I said Hitler is also in Harts book, and his rank has no significance to the point. Does influence mean Good?? Not necessarily. Ex: Hitler is also in the list</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: red"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: red"></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AncientGlory, post: 7304627, member: 262433"] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. I already agreed that in some countries child marriages are done because of cultural reasons. But I also think that in some Muslim countries this is promoted/ excused based on the religion. And I clearly said that I'm not interested in [COLOR=Red]THIS THREAD[/COLOR] to talk about those cultural reasons. I'm here to talk about how child marriages are done in ISLAM. I think I'm clear on that. Bringing things from other cultures/religions are not relevant to this topic. Or are you trying to make the point that, child marriages are normal in some countries, cultures, religions so what's wrong with doing it in Islam?[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] Seems like you have not read my previous posts. You just jumped in the middle and assumed I'm an ANTI-ISLAMIC (Which I do not mind now, after seeing this thread. [URL="http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=627000"]http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=627000 [/URL]) and assumed many other things I see. I have repeatedly said times are different, hence customs can be different.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] My question contains my definition of a child.[/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]And based on your reply, it seems to me that you are ok with having sex with a person disregard of her age, if she reached puberty. So I'm gonna take your opinion on question as "OK".[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]For the nth time, I'm not talking about the prophet Muhammad. I'm talking about a general case to explain, that one wrong deed will define a person, In general. My example makes perfect sense, if you try to understand my motive here is not to accuse your prophet Muhammad.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] [/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] Yes Harts list gives an idea to you and also to me about prophet Muhammad. Muhammad being the number one clearly says something. Muhammad is one of the most influential persons in history. I do not deny this, It is a simple fact. And unlike you I do not need to look at someones list to understand that. His followers today is a proof of his influence. It amuses me to see that you see being top in the list is some kind of a game, and to see your thrill of finding Hitler was not able to defeat muhammad. I would also like to point out that book represents Hart's idea. There are other people who talk about the same subject. Majority of such Ideologists, and institutions say Jesus Christ was the most influential man in the History. However this is not of importance. Like I said Hitler is also in Harts book, and his rank has no significance to the point. Does influence mean Good?? Not necessarily. Ex: Hitler is also in the list [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=red] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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