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<blockquote data-quote="ravicplk" data-source="post: 2511397" data-attributes="member: 54446"><p>first of all let me thank the all three judges who gave me their verdicts.You may dont know the judges yet.so let me introduce them.</p><p></p><p>here is the debate thread</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93906" target="_blank">http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93906</a></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Jayanthah</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">sri_lion</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">nash_node</span></p><p></p><p>these people gave their verdict middle of their busy life.so let me put their results and the explanations........</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><u>Jayanthah's verdict</u></span></p><p></p><p>Hi Guys, </p><p>Following is my verdict of the debate;</p><p></p><p>A1-Kalindu Gayan</p><p></p><p>Appoach was very good, not formal, in the end he didnt really get to the point he was trying to say, no example etc, many typing mistakes</p><p></p><p>Points 7/10</p><p></p><p>B1-Dilrasan</p><p>Very good clear cut approach, good example about war & poverty, counter attack Kalindu gayan'[s point nicely</p><p></p><p>Points 9/10</p><p></p><p>A2-Raji</p><p>Very good approach, good verbal skills (vocublury), counter attcks Dilrasan's point well, nice closing with precise message</p><p></p><p>Points 10/10</p><p></p><p>B2 - Cj4ever</p><p></p><p>Good start, counter attcked Raji's point well, but the presentation of facts are off topic</p><p></p><p>Points 6/10</p><p></p><p>A3 -Gihan(was he there in the original team??)</p><p></p><p>Good approach & good examples, capitalized on Cj4ever'[s mistake, facts are bit all over the place</p><p></p><p>Point 9/10</p><p></p><p>B3-Asitha</p><p>Very good start & approch, Good point in attcking Gihan's point, again gone slightly off topic by saying Prabkaran the movie is not a great work of art (Subjective matters)</p><p></p><p>Points 9/10</p><p></p><p>Team A points 26</p><p></p><p>Team B Points 24</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><u>Nash_node's verdict</u></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's see...</p><p></p><p>My judgment.</p><p></p><p>KalinduGayan - B1</p><p></p><p>Start was good.. (i mean the salutation) ..<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":-)" /> ... but after than he totally missed his entire point. He tried to say something..but didn't really get there. Lacked the skill to lay a strong foundation for his team to carry on after him.</p><p></p><p>6/10</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dilrasan - A1</p><p></p><p>He played into the hands of the opponents, but sadly (for the other team) and Luckily (for him) no one capitalized on his blunders. If I was the next debater, I would call him my "my friend" <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":-)" /> </p><p></p><p>5/10</p><p></p><p></p><p>rajigplk - B2</p><p></p><p>Nice, quick to the point and gave some SOLID stuff for the other team to break. A good effort.</p><p></p><p>8/10</p><p></p><p></p><p>CJ4ever - A2</p><p></p><p>A small talk. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":-)" /> ... tried to show something..but really didnt stand up to what he wanted to point out. He could have done a better job.</p><p></p><p>6/10</p><p></p><p></p><p>dwghihanw - B3</p><p></p><p>Considering to his predecessors... EXCELLENT job done. Good examples and definetly had a fighting spirit. Brought solid points for his side and made a good foundation for his case. Bravo !!</p><p></p><p>9/10</p><p></p><p></p><p>Asitha-k - A3</p><p></p><p>Not really solid.. but good effort...and Definitely not a good Closing compared to his opponent. </p><p></p><p>7/10.</p><p></p><p>so the Marks are</p><p></p><p>A Team - 18</p><p>(Dilrasan, CJ4ever, Asith-k)</p><p></p><p></p><p>B Team - 23</p><p></p><p>(KalinduGayan,rajigplk, dwghihandw)</p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><u>sri_lion's verdict</u></span></p><p></p><p>Verdict: assessed by sri_lion</p><p>Note:</p><p>The marking is given considering many factors, 10 points were allocated for each reply and the</p><p>breakdown of the 10 as follows, First, the number of words per reply checked as it has to be below 250</p><p>limit. 2 points allocated for every reply that adhered to the limit and minus 2 for replies which fails to do</p><p>so.</p><p>Secondly, the quality of points bought on by the particular member to the debate in his reply has been</p><p>looked at, and the ability to successfully and logically answer a question from the opposition has been</p><p>also looked at. This results in total of 8 points for both efforts of bringing on good logical points and</p><p>answering opposition points successfully and logically plus other factors such as handling the language</p><p>in a proper and formal manner also being looked at.</p><p></p><p>Kalindugayan</p><p>- Word Limit : 2 Points</p><p>- Overall Logicality: 4 Points</p><p>- Total : 6/10</p><p></p><p>Note:</p><p>Wasn’t really sure of what approach he should take, could have been more organized in his</p><p>approach, his conclusion wasn’t really backed by proper foundation of logics</p><p></p><p>dilrasan</p><p>- Word Limit: 2 Points</p><p>- Overall Logicality: 5 Points</p><p>- Total: 7/10</p><p></p><p>Note:</p><p>Good Effort, Quick to point out a local example, the final point about technology is bit confusing as</p><p>he did not take much effort to elaborate more on that</p><p></p><p>rajigplk</p><p>- Word Limit: 2 Points</p><p>- Overall Logicality: 7 Points</p><p>- Total: 9/10</p><p></p><p>Note:</p><p>Very good effort, straight to the point and entered the discussion through an oppositions point (nice</p><p>move!), good use of language, Charlie Chaplin’s example was good!</p><p></p><p>cj4ever</p><p>- Word Limit: 2 Points</p><p>- Overall Logicality: 6 Points</p><p>- Total: 8/10</p><p></p><p>Note:</p><p>Quite successfully answered the opposition, but his own point could have been a bit more refined,</p><p>like for example even though “Love” is still a topic for many arts you cannot completely ignore the</p><p>effect of the outer world on it.. Maybe he could have more specific to further prove his point on</p><p>cases where “Love” was the only factor involved!</p><p></p><p>dwghihanw</p><p>- Word Limit: 0 Points (exceeded)</p><p>- Overall Logicality: 5 Points</p><p>- Total: 5/10</p><p></p><p>Note:</p><p>Word Limit exceeded and lost 2 points, good example on Tibet. S. Mainda himi, answering</p><p>opposition’s points was successful to a certain extent</p><p></p><p>Asitha-K</p><p>- Word Limit: 2 Points</p><p>- Overall Logicality: 5 Points</p><p>- Total: 7/10</p><p></p><p>Note:</p><p>Totally misjudged the word “samakaleena”, Gemany example actually refers to that era and Charlie</p><p>Chaplin doing his work in that particular era.. so in that sense it is “samakaleena” to that era itself.</p><p>Good point on film Prabakaran, answering “Tupac” example not quite comprehensive.. even if he is</p><p>the only one rapper, that itself is enough to prove the point that “his surrounding’s had some effect</p><p>on his work”, we are not talking about numbers here!</p><p></p><p>Team A Total Points Team B Total Points</p><p></p><p>dilrasan 7/10 Kalindugayan 6/10</p><p>cj4ever 8/10 rajigplk 9/10</p><p>Asitha-K 7/10 dwghihanw 5/10</p><p></p><p>Grand Total 22/30 Grand Total 20/30</p><p></p><p>so this is the way they gave their marks.....</p><p></p><p>so with a simple calculation we can determine the winner.......</p><p></p><p>TEAM A FINAL POINTS=66</p><p></p><p>TEAM B FINAL POINTS=67</p><p></p><p>so as u can see team B wins the debate by one point.but nevertheless it was a close one...so if u have any problems with these marks ask any question.the judges will answer u r questions.</p><p></p><p>and finally let me thank all the people who help me to do this mega event with high colours..we did something extraordinary.I hope that someone will carry out this work in the next year also..</p><p></p><p>thank u all..............</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ravicplk, post: 2511397, member: 54446"] first of all let me thank the all three judges who gave me their verdicts.You may dont know the judges yet.so let me introduce them. here is the debate thread [url]http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93906[/url] [SIZE="4"]Jayanthah sri_lion nash_node[/SIZE] these people gave their verdict middle of their busy life.so let me put their results and the explanations........ [SIZE="4"][U]Jayanthah's verdict[/U][/SIZE] Hi Guys, Following is my verdict of the debate; A1-Kalindu Gayan Appoach was very good, not formal, in the end he didnt really get to the point he was trying to say, no example etc, many typing mistakes Points 7/10 B1-Dilrasan Very good clear cut approach, good example about war & poverty, counter attack Kalindu gayan'[s point nicely Points 9/10 A2-Raji Very good approach, good verbal skills (vocublury), counter attcks Dilrasan's point well, nice closing with precise message Points 10/10 B2 - Cj4ever Good start, counter attcked Raji's point well, but the presentation of facts are off topic Points 6/10 A3 -Gihan(was he there in the original team??) Good approach & good examples, capitalized on Cj4ever'[s mistake, facts are bit all over the place Point 9/10 B3-Asitha Very good start & approch, Good point in attcking Gihan's point, again gone slightly off topic by saying Prabkaran the movie is not a great work of art (Subjective matters) Points 9/10 Team A points 26 Team B Points 24 [SIZE="4"][U]Nash_node's verdict[/U][/SIZE] Let's see... My judgment. KalinduGayan - B1 Start was good.. (i mean the salutation) ..:-) ... but after than he totally missed his entire point. He tried to say something..but didn't really get there. Lacked the skill to lay a strong foundation for his team to carry on after him. 6/10 Dilrasan - A1 He played into the hands of the opponents, but sadly (for the other team) and Luckily (for him) no one capitalized on his blunders. If I was the next debater, I would call him my "my friend" :-) 5/10 rajigplk - B2 Nice, quick to the point and gave some SOLID stuff for the other team to break. A good effort. 8/10 CJ4ever - A2 A small talk. :-) ... tried to show something..but really didnt stand up to what he wanted to point out. He could have done a better job. 6/10 dwghihanw - B3 Considering to his predecessors... EXCELLENT job done. Good examples and definetly had a fighting spirit. Brought solid points for his side and made a good foundation for his case. Bravo !! 9/10 Asitha-k - A3 Not really solid.. but good effort...and Definitely not a good Closing compared to his opponent. 7/10. so the Marks are A Team - 18 (Dilrasan, CJ4ever, Asith-k) B Team - 23 (KalinduGayan,rajigplk, dwghihandw) [SIZE="4"][U] sri_lion's verdict[/U][/SIZE] Verdict: assessed by sri_lion Note: The marking is given considering many factors, 10 points were allocated for each reply and the breakdown of the 10 as follows, First, the number of words per reply checked as it has to be below 250 limit. 2 points allocated for every reply that adhered to the limit and minus 2 for replies which fails to do so. Secondly, the quality of points bought on by the particular member to the debate in his reply has been looked at, and the ability to successfully and logically answer a question from the opposition has been also looked at. This results in total of 8 points for both efforts of bringing on good logical points and answering opposition points successfully and logically plus other factors such as handling the language in a proper and formal manner also being looked at. Kalindugayan - Word Limit : 2 Points - Overall Logicality: 4 Points - Total : 6/10 Note: Wasn’t really sure of what approach he should take, could have been more organized in his approach, his conclusion wasn’t really backed by proper foundation of logics dilrasan - Word Limit: 2 Points - Overall Logicality: 5 Points - Total: 7/10 Note: Good Effort, Quick to point out a local example, the final point about technology is bit confusing as he did not take much effort to elaborate more on that rajigplk - Word Limit: 2 Points - Overall Logicality: 7 Points - Total: 9/10 Note: Very good effort, straight to the point and entered the discussion through an oppositions point (nice move!), good use of language, Charlie Chaplin’s example was good! cj4ever - Word Limit: 2 Points - Overall Logicality: 6 Points - Total: 8/10 Note: Quite successfully answered the opposition, but his own point could have been a bit more refined, like for example even though “Love” is still a topic for many arts you cannot completely ignore the effect of the outer world on it.. Maybe he could have more specific to further prove his point on cases where “Love” was the only factor involved! dwghihanw - Word Limit: 0 Points (exceeded) - Overall Logicality: 5 Points - Total: 5/10 Note: Word Limit exceeded and lost 2 points, good example on Tibet. S. Mainda himi, answering opposition’s points was successful to a certain extent Asitha-K - Word Limit: 2 Points - Overall Logicality: 5 Points - Total: 7/10 Note: Totally misjudged the word “samakaleena”, Gemany example actually refers to that era and Charlie Chaplin doing his work in that particular era.. so in that sense it is “samakaleena” to that era itself. Good point on film Prabakaran, answering “Tupac” example not quite comprehensive.. even if he is the only one rapper, that itself is enough to prove the point that “his surrounding’s had some effect on his work”, we are not talking about numbers here! Team A Total Points Team B Total Points dilrasan 7/10 Kalindugayan 6/10 cj4ever 8/10 rajigplk 9/10 Asitha-K 7/10 dwghihanw 5/10 Grand Total 22/30 Grand Total 20/30 so this is the way they gave their marks..... so with a simple calculation we can determine the winner....... TEAM A FINAL POINTS=66 TEAM B FINAL POINTS=67 so as u can see team B wins the debate by one point.but nevertheless it was a close one...so if u have any problems with these marks ask any question.the judges will answer u r questions. and finally let me thank all the people who help me to do this mega event with high colours..we did something extraordinary.I hope that someone will carry out this work in the next year also.. thank u all.............. [/QUOTE]
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