SPEECH OF AN IDOL GUIDING THE MISGUIDED

sri_lion

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Juziers said:
Practice it everyday ?! If you can attain Nirvana while having a family, children and while going to office........then let me know.

Real buddhists ? JHU ? JVP ? where are they now when the SL Army is killing their enemies ? Why are'nt they helping the LTTE (being compassionate with the enemies is a buddhist virtue). Why don't they just leave the country and leave it to their enemies. Well......I see no one. So.........not a practical religion.

Buddhism is centralized on you, you are the core no one else... based on this scenario you have the freedom to follow it or not, so you and me are on totally different tracks here, you expect a judgement day where as Buddhist's judgement day will be the day that he understand Dharma and decide to commit his/her life to it, based on this you have 2 choices either you lead a good life till you ready to follow the path of Nirvana, else you commit to it straight away... there is this flexibility in this Buddhism!

Though unlike in other religions the fundamental rules will never ever change, like for example violence and matters relating to life and death situations! You cannot have NIRVANA while going to office..:lol: NO!! because that itself contradicts with the whole idea of attaining NIRVANA!

Juziers said:
Your talking about Compassion ? Indeed, we have, but not fake compassion, whereby you attack enemies through constitutions, and then preach peace in the temple. We are compassionate as long as humanely possible, and when we're under fire, we'll defend ourselves legitimately without extra constitutions. This is real standard, the subs are where you need additional constitutions to defend your ownself.

I think you still cannot figure out the difference of a religion especially Buddhism and a constitution of a country, they are totally different is it so hard for you to understand it?

Buddhism stand by its principles unlike Islam changing rules for the survival only for its followers - even the end story of Islam only favors Muslims, this is why Buddhism is a universal religion.. because it applies to everybody alike!

Politics, constitutions are still bondage to material things in this world which ultimately got to give in, so the conclusion is... sure SL has its forces and its way of dealing terrorists and dirty politicians but all these rejected in the teachings of Buddhism... and human is human, like Muslims hope for a judgement day someday... Buddhists hope that someday the Dharma will prevail all!!

Juziers said:
Way of ending matters even in Islam. What I said was, even if it's bad, it'll end some day. This is simple logic.

So can I kill someone because he is gonna die anyway? :lol:

Juziers said:
Your talking of abuse. We're talking of marriage. So not the same thing

No I'm talking about pre-requisites for a marriage, all this people were expecting a 9 year old's hand, and you trying to generalize as if it is OK is totally out of the scope! the matter here is the age of the child... not how many people wanted her :rolleyes:

Juziers said:
Your still ignoring the socio-cultural environment at that time in this part of the world. What is underage for you now here, was not the same then there.

Maybe, but it still does not justify the fact the girl is ready to get married... above all people if anyone could have judged this.. it should have been Mohommad as Muslim's portray him as the scholar... so he is no different than the ordinary people then!

Juziers said:
Dolls doesn't speak volumes in Aisha's case, because she collected and conserved them for a long time since it was her hobby. Children of today who grow up with the joystick and Aisha are uncompareble, specially in her socio-cultural environment.

You have no counter argument on this, even today female children of this age play with dolls, nothing much has changed and we know by experience the mindset of them. You are just trying to cover the Mohommad's crime here.. nothing else!


Juziers said:
Why do you always analyse things halfway. Aisha didn't reveal any intimate matters. In the meantime, there's no arrogance or shyness to learn or to teach matters which would be usefull for the muslim community. So is the semen and spit details, these are useful matters for purification for muslims.

:lol: Mohommad's and Aisha's intimate life is needed for the purification details of Muslims.. that's GROSS!! :lol:

I'll get back to you with the source its in one of the Hadith i think!

Juziers said:
For this problem, you'll have to understand literal arabic or refer to Quranic exegesis or ask knowledgeable people in the area. CNN, Sky or BBC are not enough. Anything can be misused if not properly understood.

I already gave you my source, now you know where I get it from.. do you accpet that source or not?

Juziers said:
As in any organization, there's a hierarchy even at home. Main responsibilities are clearly defined. Rights and Responsibilities are clearly defined as well. As for dealing with disputes, there's a guide as well. All these are better than having NO STANCE at all, which will lead to all types of misconduct and open the door for all types of constitutions.

Who says Buddhism has NO STANCE? :lol: Lord Buddha have even clearly defined parent's duties to children too, anyway I dont expect you know all that.. so its ok!

But again the principal rules of Buddhism is unchanged.. NO VIOLENCE, and in that sense family is very important because whatever form violence begins in the family is deadly dangerous.. majority of criminals who commits seruious crimes has had a bad childhood, this is proven thus non-violence in households are extremely important, parents fighting, arguing can have dire consequences on children!

So the way of problem solving in Islam even in this case is totally not right!

Juziers said:
Translation is not enough to understand Quranic verses. With the exegesis, you'll get a bigger picture.

So the true Muslims are only the ones who knows how to read it in the original form?

Juziers said:
Everyone was born as muslims. Yes, everyone. But when they attain maturity, people take different paths. Some reason logically, others don't.

Quran : 30:30 So set thou thy face steadily and truly to the Faith: (establish) Allah's handiwork according to the pattern on which He has made mankind: no change (let there be) in the work (wrought) by Allah; that is the standard Religion, but most among mankind understand not.

This is why children who die before entering age of self-reasoning will not be accountable for their deeds and will enter heaven without questioning.

What is that age of maturity in Islam?

Juziers said:
Never understood the answer. Nevermind, may Allah guide you.

Ah! just forget it!:lol:
 

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uhox said:
hmmm.....
signs of the rising of so-called Islamic "FUNDAMENTALISM"

Yes, in media based intellectuals. Firstly, I advise you go and find how this word 'fundamentalism' was formulated and to whom it was originally destinated (Now that it has become Islam's forced property)

first ;they try to liquidate the other religions by the theorical concepts ( but they are almost irrational, because all those logic will ended up with all mighty Allah..)..[ The same tactic has been used during the Iranian revisionist movement which backed by the Ayathollahs]

Good theory, but it didn't happen that way. As for Iran, there was no 'revisionism', rather it was a 'revolution'......not the same thing again. To measure a revolution, you must compare the result with the situation before. If the Shah was better than Ayatollah Khomeini, then I bet your blind.

Second; they try to define the people those who questions about the human rights, women rights and democratic costitutions as racists or Anti-Islamic.

If your feeling racist or anti-islamic, then it's not our fault, it should most probably be your personal guilt. If we still answer all this hatred, then don't victimize yourself at our place.

that is why the Iraq Baathist party with the president Saddam hussain and even the Father of modern Turkey Mustafa Kemal Ataturk have kept separate the religion (Islamism or what ever.) from the politics...

This is none other than historic ignorance. The only common point with the baath party (saddam husain) and Ata Turk is both collaborated in plots with US for saddam and UK for Ata Turk, on western geopolitical interests. Saddam for destabilizing the region through strategic conflicts (especially with Iran), and Ata Turk to bring and end to the Ottoman empire and destroy potential arab domination through uprising turkish nationalism. So they couldn't have done all these corruption with the help of Islam, which conducted them to a logical separation between their business and Islam. So once again ........your going astray.

But , our Sri lankan wanna be "Quadists" are following the reactionary path. Even they have no political knowladge on Palastine, Iraqi or Malyasian political movements. Their idiocy has no limits. They are politically and culturaly premature like those Talebans and jihadists..

Now , We must understand the importance of Counter insurgency STF deployment in the Muslim majority east is crucial as defined by the its founder Lalith himself..
[He has studied in Israel university and well aware of the islamic extremist issues :) ]

:)

If studied in Israeli university, he should not only know imaginary terrorism, but also should be an expert in launching sulfuric bombs into crowded open air civil prisons !!!

You don't worry about Sri Lankan muslims, we have since centuries, contributed in all possible ways to the development of Sri Lanka in a peaceful manner. We will never ask for separate states, we don't simply need them. Sri Lankan muslims, in their large majority, has always lived intermingling harmoniously between Sinhala and Tamil populations while speeking both languages. During all this conlict times, we have always prayed in the mosques and at homes for a peaceful and united Sri Lanka. So if people now want to send us STF, let them do so.