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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Juziers" data-source="post: 3989965" data-attributes="member: 153709">yes  By definition, when muslims use the word CREATOR, that means He's the beginning of everything without a beginning for Himself. Otherwise, if He was just a part of the cycle, then the word CREATOR wouldn't have fit in. This, you believe by rational faith and not through a scientific process.  Your logic of Science = truth can be put into question very easily. Anyway, beleaving in the Creator is a matter of beleiving in the Unseen. So it cannot be treated with science.</blockquote>

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