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<blockquote data-quote="Juziers" data-source="post: 4035921" data-attributes="member: 153709"><p>So let's sum up : According to buddhism, you have NO right to defend yourselves, so you make a 'anti-buddhist' constitution to pretext the war. What's stupid between this and Islam ? Muslims don't need extra constitutions to fill any void in the religion. We have the right to defend and THAT'S IT. As for what I see, you have finished with Bin Laden, and your now talking about Abou Qatada, as if they were the pillars of Islam. The same way you say Buddhism and politics are separate, terrorism and Islam is also separate. Ok, let me ask you another question, in the case of Sri Lanka, is the constitution right to permit the army to defend the nation, or is Buddhism right to have no other solution than to give the enemies whatever they want ?</p><p> </p><p>Quran : 5:32 On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - <strong>it would be as if he slew the whole people</strong>: and if any one saved a life, <strong>it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people</strong>. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. </p><p> </p><p></B> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I have nothing to prove to you. Islam, by essence, is non-violent unless we get under fire, then we'll defend ourselves, which is quite natural. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Don't get disgusted now. The most disgusting day for some, is yet to come.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>No, she had menses at 9. What I told was, it's not compulsory for everywomen to get married as soon as they have menses. it's a personal choice.</p><p> </p><p>Quran :<span style="color: #ff0000"> "O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower </span><span style="color: #008000">[money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract]</span><span style="color: #ff0000"> ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. </span><span style="color: #0000ff">(The Noble Quran, 4:19)</span><span style="color: #ff0000">" </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Hadith(saying of the Prophet[pbuh]) : </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as having said: <span style="color: #008000">"A woman without a husband (or divorced or a widow) must not be married until she is consulted, and a virgin must not be married until her permission is sought. They asked the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him): How her (virgin's) consent can be solicited? He (the Holy Prophet) said: That she keeps silence. </span><span style="color: #0000ff">(Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 008, Number 3303)</span><span style="color: #008000">"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p> </p><p>Summing up, whenever there's a moral problem in the buddhist community, it's a cultural problem. Whenever there's a problem among muslims (terrorism), it's always a problem of Islam. You can now call this a deaf and dumb exchange.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Summing up, there's no practicing buddhists. All buddhists(including monks) practice something else. Buddhism no longer exist. Konde bandapu cheennunta owa kiyaapan !</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Got mixed up once again. I'll help you to see clear. You got <strong>rid of material</strong> (leave your family, go to the jungle etc) to attain 'Nirvana'. Nirvana is in the unseen. So the cause and effect theory applies to the unseen (which cannot be materialized immediately). In Islam, we <strong>use material</strong> in a mutualy beneficial manner to attain heaven.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Allah has no gain nor loss in creating us. The only gain is for us. Our souls wouldn't have existed if Allah so wished. Now that our souls inhabit our human body, either you gain eternity by worshipping Allah, or you loose eternity by disbelieving.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Juziers, post: 4035921, member: 153709"] So let's sum up : According to buddhism, you have NO right to defend yourselves, so you make a 'anti-buddhist' constitution to pretext the war. What's stupid between this and Islam ? Muslims don't need extra constitutions to fill any void in the religion. We have the right to defend and THAT'S IT. As for what I see, you have finished with Bin Laden, and your now talking about Abou Qatada, as if they were the pillars of Islam. The same way you say Buddhism and politics are separate, terrorism and Islam is also separate. Ok, let me ask you another question, in the case of Sri Lanka, is the constitution right to permit the army to defend the nation, or is Buddhism right to have no other solution than to give the enemies whatever they want ? Quran : 5:32 On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - [B]it would be as if he slew the whole people[/B]: and if any one saved a life, [B]it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people[/B]. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. </B> I have nothing to prove to you. Islam, by essence, is non-violent unless we get under fire, then we'll defend ourselves, which is quite natural. Don't get disgusted now. The most disgusting day for some, is yet to come. No, she had menses at 9. What I told was, it's not compulsory for everywomen to get married as soon as they have menses. it's a personal choice. Quran :[COLOR=#ff0000] "O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [/COLOR][COLOR=#008000][money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract][/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff](The Noble Quran, 4:19)[/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]" [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Hadith(saying of the Prophet[pbuh]) : Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as having said: [COLOR=#008000]"A woman without a husband (or divorced or a widow) must not be married until she is consulted, and a virgin must not be married until her permission is sought. They asked the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him): How her (virgin's) consent can be solicited? He (the Holy Prophet) said: That she keeps silence. [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff](Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 008, Number 3303)[/COLOR][COLOR=#008000]"[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000] [/COLOR] Summing up, whenever there's a moral problem in the buddhist community, it's a cultural problem. Whenever there's a problem among muslims (terrorism), it's always a problem of Islam. You can now call this a deaf and dumb exchange. Summing up, there's no practicing buddhists. All buddhists(including monks) practice something else. Buddhism no longer exist. Konde bandapu cheennunta owa kiyaapan ! Got mixed up once again. I'll help you to see clear. You got [B]rid of material[/B] (leave your family, go to the jungle etc) to attain 'Nirvana'. Nirvana is in the unseen. So the cause and effect theory applies to the unseen (which cannot be materialized immediately). In Islam, we [B]use material[/B] in a mutualy beneficial manner to attain heaven. Allah has no gain nor loss in creating us. The only gain is for us. Our souls wouldn't have existed if Allah so wished. Now that our souls inhabit our human body, either you gain eternity by worshipping Allah, or you loose eternity by disbelieving. [/QUOTE]
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