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[GTRZ]

The problem is that Jikki is dead now. People who are owing the rights may not be aware or there is no legal cover for her songs. Even if Iraj has the rights (or if t is public domain) he has blatantly copied the song. Here is the original song. See how blatantly Iraj as copied it. Even vocals from Jikki (Krishna Veni) is in Mata Aloke song. Using the voice of the first singer is like stealing the song.

Sirisangabodhi is from Sirisangabo nadagama, which was theatered in 1920s, apprx. 90 years before. So the song is in public domain according to Intellectual property act. So your argument is totally wrong.

You know if that person is dead then their family and even respective personality's of related to that media can taken action against anyone who copying that song.
If someone steal the song then its wrong but how can you just say he has sealed it without knowing he has rights or not?
You say he is dead and no legal cover and no one and no respective person to act against this. Even no human rights organization to talk?
Machan don't say things without any facts. You hate Iraj and you hate reproduction of music. So its okay you have complete freedom to think as you want. But blaming other people without any evidence or proven facts is dead wrong.

About Sirisangabodi track, Yes so they went to take legal action without knowing the law, so they were unable to ban the track and its still being played even now.

 

[tckrockz]

The problem is that Jikki is dead now. People who are owing the rights may not be aware or there is no legal cover for her songs. Even if Iraj has the rights (or if t is public domain) he has blatantly copied the song. Here is the original song. See how blatantly Iraj as copied it. Even vocals from Jikki (Krishna Veni) is in Mata Aloke song. Using the voice of the first singer is like stealing the song.

Sirisangabodhi is from Sirisangabo nadagama, which was theatered in 1920s, apprx. 90 years before. So the song is in public domain according to Intellectual property act. So your argument is totally wrong.

machan i knw ur nt supporting iraj. can u stop spamming plz

 

[Wal Bada]

You know if that person is dead then thier family and even respective personalitys of related to that media can taken action against anyone who copying that song.

Yes. I said that they might have been un aware. Or even does not want to take action. But the problem I pointed at was blatant copying by Iraj, which is morally wrong.

If someone stealed the song then its wrong but how can you just say he has stealed it without knowing he has rights or not?

Listen to the original song man, then listen to Iraj's. Where do you think that female voice is coming from? It's Krishna Veni's voice. Copying up to that extent is horrible.

You say he is dead and no legal cover and no one and no respective person to act agianst this. Even no human rights organization to talk?

Who knows. My problem once more is about blatant copying and using the original song to produce tracks. Read the posts once more.

Machan don't say things without any facts. You hate Iraj and you hate reproduction of music. So its okay you have complete freedom to think as you want. But blaming other people without any evidance or provan facts is dead wrong.

I am talking with facts. You have absolutely no evidence that Iraj carries the legal ownership of "Mata Aloke" song (but it was not the point of discussion). How can you disprove that it's not a blatant copy? I hate copy cats who do it in an uncivilized way. Iraj is one of them, so are Centigradz (but they are improving as they are doing their own melodies now).

 

[icreations]

hmm.. lst posts... any way

i think if Indians copied this Co z WE HAVE TALENTs.. else if They Wont Take right..

anemanda Watd Iraj Saying..

 

[bugz]

YES!

yeah sure!!! im downlodin da song!! letz c! anyws, im against it!! they cant do it....

 

[GTRZ]

Yes. I said that they might have been un aware. Or even does not want to take action. But the problem I pointed at was blatant copying by Iraj, which is morally wrong.

Listen to the original song man, then listen to Iraj's. Where do you think that female voice is coming from? It's Krishna Veni's voice. Copying up to that extent is horrible.

Who knows. My problem once more is about blatant copying and using the original song to produce tracks. Read the posts once more.

I am talking with facts. You have absolutely no evidence that Iraj carries the legal ownership of "Mata Aloke" song (but it was not the point of discussion). How can you disprove that it's not a blatant copy? I hate copy cats who do it in an uncivilized way. Iraj is one of them, so are Centigradz (but they are improving as they are doing their own melodies now).

You or me not sound engineers. And we don't have nessosory equpments to test that. So you can't say that small part is from Krishna Veni's voice or not.

You know who sings most of female backing voices of many new Srilankan and international songs? You know there are voice manipulating software and hardware which can change any voice or make it match to any voice they like.
You know how many sites selling voice changing software even to kids as a fun method to use in their voice chats?

I am talking based on the current decision about that track. So its officially having no problem till to this date. But my friend you are talking based on your imagination and things you will believe will get proved. So my dear walbada if someone prove its illegal copying then i will agree with you. Even this thread based on the topic of illegal copying of music so i am totally against illegal reproduction of music. But i am telling you again don't blame people without facts. I am talking based on the facts we already have.

 

[dagame]

ai mechara eka sinduwak copy kala kiyala mechara kaganne? ehenam indiayawa ape ratata kochara nadu danna oneda copy karala karana movies, songs, tv series and everything. hahaha. boruwata iraj karaya kagahawa uge sinduwak copy kala kiyala. bullshit!!

 

[sri_lion]

In my opinion, the problem NOW is about Iraj and the track copied from him!!

IF this track is Originally Iraj's which he has complete right to

and

IF he has never copied from Indian Music illegally..

he has every rights to fight against this!!

Firstly....We know we copied whole sale from Indian Music for decades but if they've failed to SUE us, well.. its NOT our mistake.... BUT its our LACK of CREATIVITY!! and that being said We DON'T really know where Indians have copied them FROM? So no ones knows for sure... the ones we copied thinking that its Original Indian may well have been looted from around the world.. Just LIKE their CRAPPY FILMS!!!

Secondly... If all those conditions above were MET about Iraj... then Iraj doesn't have to pay for what other artist did in the past, its NOT like he has to keep quiet because whole SL copy from Indian music!!! But all this only IF his hands are NOT DIRTY!!!

Anyway assuming that this effort is honest I would like to him WISH GOOD LUCK as a Sri Lankan!!

 

[sri_lion]

umba india we ekek da.. he he.. nattam india wala ekek umbata mokak hari kalada

C'mon LICH... you have to be more mature than this as one of the Admins of the site...

As your Signature says "With Great Powers Comes Great Responsibilities" !!

Think about it!!!

 

[uvajira]

ye man ask iraj to make an action regarding that issue...we all r with him...

 

[hodalamaya]

u know ... if like this ..... wt will happened if indian people take legal action against us?? most of our artists will be affected

 

[saraprobe]

So what we are gonna do now
??/??//

 

[uditha_d]

we sure do somthing 2 dat.
who know wat will next.

 

[RAZOR xxxxx]

so so guys wht ar they goin to do for this????????

any new news??????????????????????????????

 

[Sujakshan]

its not good tho........!!
iraj should take a legal action

 

[Wal Bada]

You or me not sound engineers. And we don't have nessosory equpments to test that. So you can't say that small part is from Krishna Veni's voice or not.

Don't play down the situation machan. Any one will recognize the similarities. And the copying of original lyrics is also unmistakable. Sound engineers blah blah blah and computer analysis is always inferior to pattern recongnition of human brain (are computers good at recognising faces or finger prints than the human eye?). If best of the musicians say it is a copy cat how do you disprove it? Anf BTW you don't need sophisticated equipment to say whose voice is that when sombody talks, even when it is engineered to a certain degree.

You know who sings most of female backing voices of many new Srilankan and international songs? You know there are voice manipulating software and hardware which can change any voice or make it match to any voice they like.
You know how many sites selling voice changing software even to kids as a fun method to use in their voice chats?

Once again poor show. Even the pronuncation of the words in the "Mata Aloke" song are foreign. So you want to prove it with engineers for that also?

I am talking based on the current decision about that track. So its officially having no problem till to this date.

I am talking of the moral grounds of it. Not the legal grounds of it. Iam not worried about the copyright. I am worried about barbaric copying of songs.

But my friend you are talking based on your imagination and things you will believe will get proved.

You don't comprehend ehat I was talking about. You are answering to points that you have created in your mind. Get over it and listen to both songs with an open mind. Then comment about morality of Iraj's work.

So my dear walbada if someone prove its illegal copying then i will agree with you. Even this thread based on the topic of illegal copying of music so i am totally against illegal reproduction of music. But i am telling you again don't blame people without facts. I am talking based on the facts we already have.

Stop protecting copycats GTRZ. People who copy others cannot whinge about there work being copied. They have no moral right for that. Veddas can't preach "bana". Iraj is like a "Vedda" who is preaching about "non-violence" Blatantly copying and then whinging when his work is copied.

 

[RAZOR xxxxx]

heyyyy iraj tld it in sirasa today...in the niroshaii iroshaii programme...


hey i think hell do sumthin abt this for sureeeeeee

 

[sampath312]

considering the legal side we got to admit this is wrong....but macho ape irajla witharak nemey issara idhalama api hindi melodies copy kara nedaha...ehema ewata nadhu dammanam adha api ahana godhak film sindu ehema ahannawath labenne naha neda?????



any way its irajs right to go agaist as it was him who add his blood on his designs....


to me if some body using the originality with the permission and use it for a better creation ,it doesnt matters me at all .because some times much better design might come after little editing to the originals......there are some portugeese , brazillians song melodies are used without even mention here in sri lanka..but thats true some credit should go to true designer.......but if he(person in this irajs matter) is not willing to do so its so disgusting.....

 

[sampath312]

Don't play down the situation machan. Any one will recognize the similarities. And the copying of original lyrics is also unmistakable. Sound engineers blah blah blah and computer analysis is always inferior to pattern recongnition of human brain (are computers good at recognising faces or finger prints than the human eye?). If best of the musicians say it is a copy cat how do you disprove it? Anf BTW you don't need sophisticated equipment to say whose voice is that when sombody talks, even when it is engineered to a certain degree.

Once again poor show. Even the pronuncation of the words in the "Mata Aloke" song are foreign. So you want to prove it with engineers for that also?

I am talking of the moral grounds of it. Not the legal grounds of it. Iam not worried about the copyright. I am worried about barbaric copying of songs.

You don't comprehend ehat I was talking about. You are answering to points that you have created in your mind. Get over it and listen to both songs with an open mind. Then comment about morality of Iraj's work.

Stop protecting copycats GTRZ. People who copy others cannot whinge about there work being copied. They have no moral right for that. Veddas can't preach "bana". Iraj is like a "Vedda" who is preaching about "non-violence" Blatantly copying and then whinging when his work is copied.

wise words machang 100precent agreed...we dont hate iraj or some what but if iraj do the copy why he is just worried when others do for him.....if he is not doing so we can completely agree with this stuff..for me this is just a simple issue dont even feel as a big thing to talk about

 

[draco]

we must help IRAJ