The Truth Part 1 !!!!! Muhammed (PBUH) was prophesized

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    saharaz said:
    The Buddhist Prophecy



    (From the Burmese source.s.)
    The Buddha said to Sariputta:-
    "......................... Our cycle is a happy one. Three leaders have already lived. Kakusandha, Konogamana And eke the leader Kasapa. The Buddha supreme am I. But after me Metteya comes. While still this happy cycle lasts, Before its tale of years shall lapse This Buddha then Metteya. called Supreme, and of all men the chief"
    Buddhism in Translation by Warren. PP 481 -2.
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    Badger's English Arabic Lexicon includes "Goodness and providence".
    "Ar-Rahman and Ar-Rahim are both derived from Rahmat, signifying tenderness requiring the exercise of beneficience (Raghib Imam) and thus comprising the idea of love and mercy. Ar-Rahman and Ar-Rahim are both active participle nouns of different measures. denoting intensiveness of significance, the former being of the measure fa'lan, and indicating the greatest preponderance of the quality of mercy, and the latter being of the measure fa'il and being expressive of a constant repetition and manifestation of the ahribute. (A. H.) The two words have been explained by the holy prophet himself. He is reported to have said. 'Ar-Rahman is the Beneficent God whose love and mercy are manifested in the creation of this world, and Ar-Rahim is the Merciful God whose love and mercy are manifested in the state that comes after'. (A . H.) i.e., in the consequence of the deeds of men. Thus the attribute of mercy in Ar-Rahman is manifested before man comes in existence in the creation of things that are necessary for his life here, and therefore without his having deserved them, while the same attribute in Ar-Rahim is manifested when man has done something to deserve it. Thus the former is expressive of the utmost degree of the love and generosity, the latter of unbounded and constant favour and mercy. Lexicologists agree in holding that the former includes both the believer and the unbeliever for its object, while the latter particularises more the believer. (LL. R. gh. L.A. T.A.) Hence I render Ar-Rahman as meaning the Beneficient God because the idea of doing good is predominent in it, though I must admit that the English language lacks an equivalent of Ar-Rahman even making an approach to giving expression to all comprehensive love and goodness manifested in that word......" (Mohammed Ali's translation of the Koran, Foot Note 3.)
    Metteyya is from Metta. The Metta Sutta runs thus:- "As a mother at the risk of her life watches over her own child, so let every one cultivate a boundless friend (friendly) mind towards all beings." (The Maha Bodhi Society translation.)
    "The Merciful......it expresses the universal atiribute of mercy which the Almighty extends to all men, the wicked and the good, believers and the un-believers. This is a noble thought." (The Muslim Doctrine of God by S.M.Zwemer D.D. PP. 35-6.)
    Thus Rahmat fully expresses the significauce of the word Metteyya. Sale translates Rahmat as "Mercy." (The Koran. Chapter 2l P.326.)

    Pinwath mithura,

    I am replying to this thread only because you are trying to misinterpret Buddhism...
    I do not see why you should provide evidence from Buddhism for your cause...

    It's perfectly OK to discuss what we believe. Islam & Buddhism have different ends; and both cannot be the Truth.
    I believe mine is correct; while you believe yours is (which is perfectly ok :) )

    I've never criticized or misinterpreted Islam (if I did it would have caused only hurtful feelings and perhaps even anger).
    I would appreciate if you behave the same way towards Buddhism.

    Why do not you respect the diversity of different religions/philosophies?
    Please do not try to distort Buddhism to achieve your ends...
    Thanks

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    I'M NOT PULLING OUT JUST. THESE ARE UNIVERSAL FACT YOU CAN SEARCH OR GO AND CHECK WITH THE ELDERLY OR EDUCATED SCHOLARS VERYFY THEM

    Again... brings us to the same point! What are Universal Facts? and how do you know they are facts? How do you.. in Islam... define facts?

    And from what you provided does'nt answer my question at all... because what I asked is, I do not see why GOD (Allah) let Islam prevail as the last main religion? after all Muslims believe he was the creator of the universe right? So how was this possible?

    One more thing from what you presented here.. I also fail to see the connection to Buddhism which you highlighted earlier, you've talked about Hinduism (which I have very less knowledge about) maybe you can explain to me comping what I'm more familiar with!

    Islam is the religion which was given to Adam, the first man and the first prophet of Allah, and it was the religion of all the prophets sent by Allah to mankind.

    So what about the human evolution? you dont believe it? why?

    Ok lets say for the sake of argument, ADAM was the first man and the prophet of Allah and then how come Adam's children grow up to become Jesus, Lord Buddha?

    Also If he was the child of Allah then how come only phophet Mohammad revealed the Q'ran? Shouldn't he bring the word from the GOD firstly? and pass it down the generations?

    I would like to see an answer to the point.. not copy paste text please! if you copy paste please make sure it answers the exact question I asked!

    Thank you!
     
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    Pinwath mithura,

    I am replying to this thread only because you are trying to misinterpret Buddhism...
    I do not see why you should provide evidence from Buddhism for your cause...

    It's perfectly OK to discuss what we believe. Islam & Buddhism have different ends; and both cannot be the Truth.
    I believe mine is correct; while you believe yours is (which is perfectly ok :) )

    I've never criticized or misinterpreted Islam (if I did it would have caused only hurtful feelings and perhaps even anger).
    I would appreciate if you behave the same way towards Buddhism.

    Why do not you respect the diversity of different religions/philosophies?
    Please do not try to distort Buddhism to achieve your ends...
    Thanks

    Theruwan saranai!

    Bismillahi Rahmaniraheem.......(InThe Name Of God Most Gracious & Most Merciful).
    Dear Brother kalyanamithra,

    i highly appreciate your thoght towards discussing on what we believe.

    Al Quran Says (109:01) - (109-06)
    I begin) in the name of Allah, the Kind, the Merciful.
    1. Say ! O unbelievers.
    2. I do not serve that which you serve.
    3. Nor do you serve He Whom I serve.
    4. Nor am I going to serve that which you serve.
    5. Nor are you going to serve He Whom I serve.
    6. For you your religion and for me my religion.

    also i'm with you as you said both cannot be the Truth. I believe mine is correct; while you believe yours is (which is perfectly ok ) check the above Quranic Verses

    it's shows your kindness and the abideness in your religion that you never criticized or misinterpreted Islam (if I did it would have caused only hurtful feelings and perhaps even anger). my respect and the support will be with you in this sence.

    your comment towards my behaviour made me think for a while that did i say any thing wrong about budhism,christianism or hinduism never never i was just quoting them FROM THERE AUTHENTICATED HOLY SCRIPTURES upon the request of sri_lion brother he is the one who ask for proof. I WILL GIVE PROOF FOR ANY ONE WHO IS WILLING TO KNOW I'M NOT HERE TO CRITISIZ ANY RELIGION, IT IS NOT ACCEPTED ACCORDING TO ISLAM TO CRITISIZE ANY RELIGION. I WAS ANSWERING THERE QUESTION WITH MY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE MAY BE I'M WRONG ALSO BROTHER kalyanamithra KNOWS MORE THAN ME. THEN YOU HAVE TO RAISE A QUESTION OR YOU CAN REPLY THERE IS NO ANY STATEMENT LIKE THAT OR THERE IS NO SUCH A BOOK AS HE MENTIONED YOU CAN TELL EVERY ONE I'M HERE ONLY.



    I RESPECT ALL THE RELIGIONS BCOZ I FOLLOW ISLAM

    IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS JUST SHOOT ME BROTHERS I'M HERE
    ِGlorious Al Quran Says,

    As to those who reject faith (kafaru), it is the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe ([Qur'an2:6];
     

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    Bismillahi Rahmaniraheem.......(InThe Name Of God Most Gracious & Most Merciful).
    Dear Brother kalyanamithra,

    i highly appreciate your thoght towards discussing on what we believe.

    Al Quran Says (109:01) - (109-06)
    I begin) in the name of Allah, the Kind, the Merciful.
    1. Say ! O unbelievers.
    2. I do not serve that which you serve.
    3. Nor do you serve He Whom I serve.
    4. Nor am I going to serve that which you serve.
    5. Nor are you going to serve He Whom I serve.
    6. For you your religion and for me my religion.

    also i'm with you as you said both cannot be the Truth. I believe mine is correct; while you believe yours is (which is perfectly ok ) check the above Quranic Verses

    it's shows your kindness and the abideness in your religion that you never criticized or misinterpreted Islam (if I did it would have caused only hurtful feelings and perhaps even anger). my respect and the support will be with you in this sence.

    your comment towards my behaviour made me think for a while that did i say any thing wrong about budhism,christianism or hinduism never never i was just quoting them FROM THERE AUTHENTICATED HOLY SCRIPTURES upon the request of sri_lion brother he is the one who ask for proof. I WILL GIVE PROOF FOR ANY ONE WHO IS WILLING TO KNOW I'M NOT HERE TO CRITISIZ ANY RELIGION, IT IS NOT ACCEPTED ACCORDING TO ISLAM TO CRITISIZE ANY RELIGION. I WAS ANSWERING THERE QUESTION WITH MY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE MAY BE I'M WRONG ALSO BROTHER kalyanamithra KNOWS MORE THAN ME. THEN YOU HAVE TO RAISE A QUESTION OR YOU CAN REPLY THERE IS NO ANY STATEMENT LIKE THAT OR THERE IS NO SUCH A BOOK AS HE MENTIONED YOU CAN TELL EVERY ONE I'M HERE ONLY.



    I RESPECT ALL THE RELIGIONS BCOZ I FOLLOW ISLAM

    IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS JUST SHOOT ME BROTHERS I'M HERE
    ِGlorious Al Quran Says,

    As to those who reject faith (kafaru), it is the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe ([Qur'an2:6];
    Pinwath mithura,

    Seems you've extracted the meaning without knowing...
    If you do not believe me, please go ahead and check..

    According to Buddhism there is a cyclical process that in which the universe gets created, destroyed and recreated. What we are know in is a "Sanwatta Kalpa" in which the universe is expanding; and in "Vivatta kalpa" it starts collapsing (and get destroyed). Period of this cyclical process is a "Kalpa"

    Maithree Buddha comes only at the end of this Kalpa (it's mentioned in Dhamma). "Maithree" is the name of that Buddha (just like current Buddha is "Gauthama").

    "Maithree" (Metta) is another thing; it's a characterisitc all (practicing) Buddhists cultivate... "Maithree Bavana" is a meditation in which we look at the world with Metta... With practice a person can be with metta around the clock...

    All scriptures when tranlsated to English use more or less the same words..
    You have unfortunately use this literal similarity to associate Buddha's words about Matithree Sammasambuddha thorugh Metta to your cause...

    So please do not do any misinterpretations like that... Thanks...

    Therunwan saranai!
     

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    Again... brings us to the same point! What are Universal Facts? and how do you know they are facts? How do you.. in Islam... define facts?

    And from what you provided does'nt answer my question at all... because what I asked is, I do not see why GOD (Allah) let Islam prevail as the last main religion? after all Muslims believe he was the creator of the universe right? So how was this possible?

    One more thing from what you presented here.. I also fail to see the connection to Buddhism which you highlighted earlier, you've talked about Hinduism (which I have very less knowledge about) maybe you can explain to me comping what I'm more familiar with!



    So what about the human evolution? you dont believe it? why?

    Ok lets say for the sake of argument, ADAM was the first man and the prophet of Allah and then how come Adam's children grow up to become Jesus, Lord Buddha?

    Also If he was the child of Allah then how come only phophet Mohammad revealed the Q'ran? Shouldn't he bring the word from the GOD firstly? and pass it down the generations?

    I would like to see an answer to the point.. not copy paste text please! if you copy paste please make sure it answers the exact question I asked!

    Thank you!

    Bismillahi Rahmaniraheem.......(InThe Name Of God Most Gracious & Most Merciful).
    Dear Brother sri_lion,

    YOU ASKED FOR PROOFS I GAVE YOU THE PROOFS
    I HOPE YOU ARE CLEAR WITH THE PROPHESY OF MUHAMMED PBUH.
    IF YOU ARE NOT CLEAR PLEASE STICK TO THE SUBJECT.... DON'T JUMP FROM THE SUJECTS LIKE GOD,EVOLUTION,ADAM,GENERATION OF HUMAN BEINGS,UNIVERSAL TRUTH, QURAN & MUHAMMED SO ON IF YOU ARE CLEAR WITH THE PROPHECY I WILL MOVE TO THE OTHER TOPICS WHICH YOU ASK FOR
    INSHAALLAH I WILL DEAL WITH EACH AND EVRY THING WHICH YOU ASK FOR.

    MY DEAR BROTHER REGADING YOUR COMMENTS ON COPY & PASTE

    YOU ASKED FOR THE ANSWERS AND THE PROOF YOU DIDN'T UTTER A SINGLE WORD ABOUT COPY PASTE IF YOU TOLD ME EARLIER I WILL NOT COPY PASTE I WILL TYPE BY MY OWN OK MY BROTHER IF YOU HAVE FURTHER MORE DIFFICULITIES PLEASE LET ME KNOW
    WAITING FOR YOUR KIND AND IMMEDIATE REPLY
     

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    also i'm with you as you said both cannot be the Truth. I believe mine is correct; while you believe yours is (which is perfectly ok ) check the above Quranic Verses

    Pinwath mithura,

    What I said is just common sense...
    It's obvious... otherwise we won't have so many different religions in the world...
    Some people practice many; some people like us practice just one; some people do not believe in any of them... It's their choice... :)
    And we should honour this diversity...
    That's why we should be careful when spreading our religions...
    We should speak what we believe as the Truth (so that we can help others); at the same time we should be careful not to misinterpret other religions...
    I know you'd agree to this... because it's again common sense...

    Theruwan saranai!
     

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    FROM THERE AUTHENTICATED HOLY SCRIPTURES upon the request of sri_lion brother he is the one who ask for proof.
    Pinwath mithura,

    Isn't this a lie?

    You had quoted from what you think authenticated Buddhist holy scriptures from the beginning (from your first post in this thread)...
    See: we have to be Truthful...

    Theruwan saranai!
     

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    Pinwath mithura,

    Seems you've extracted the meaning without knowing...
    If you do not believe me, please go ahead and check..

    According to Buddhism there is a cyclical process that in which the universe gets created, destroyed and recreated. What we are know in is a "Sanwatta Kalpa" in which the universe is expanding; and in "Vivatta kalpa" it starts collapsing (and get destroyed). Period of this cyclical process is a "Kalpa"

    Maithree Buddha comes only at the end of this Kalpa (it's mentioned in Dhamma). "Maithree" is the name of that Buddha (just like current Buddha is "Gauthama").

    "Maithree" (Metta) is another thing; it's a characterisitc all (practicing) Buddhists cultivate... "Maithree Bavana" is a meditation in which we look at the world with Metta... With practice a person can be with metta around the clock...

    All scriptures when tranlsated to English use more or less the same words..
    You have unfortunately use this literal similarity to associate Buddha's words about Matithree Sammasambuddha thorugh Metta to your cause...

    So please do not do any misinterpretations like that... Thanks...

    Therunwan saranai!


    Bismillahi Rahmaniraheem.......(InThe Name Of God Most Gracious & Most Merciful).
    Dear Brother kalyanamithra ,


    Buddha is not saying about a creation, destruction or recreation of univers. he is talikng about leaders human beings. the word cycle means a recurring series of events.he is refring to the cycling process of prophets. further dought please check below.
    From the Burmese source.s.)
    The Buddha said to Sariputta:-

    "......................... Our cycle is a happy one. Three leaders have already lived. Kakusandha, Konogamana And eke the leader Kasapa. The Buddha supreme am I. But after me Metteya comes. While still this happy cycle lasts, Before its tale of years shall lapse This Buddha then Metteya. called Supreme, and of all men the chief"
    Buddhism in Translation by Warren. PP 481 -2.

    my dear brother please don't talk out of context ...i'm talking with the context above mentioned is only a one sayin of Buddha there are plenty of sayings say about the prophecy of coming of a meththaya/maithriya i mean a particular person not as you said below :

    "Maithree" (Metta) is another thing; it's a characterisitc all (practicing) Buddhists cultivate... "Maithree Bavana" is a meditation in which we look at the world with Metta... With practice a person can be with metta around the clock...

    look at Buddhas holy words it is clear like crestal than why you are making it complicated by putting cyclic process of kalpa's.....:rolleyes:
     

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    TΞΞNSTAR™ said:
    HUh.... Well I dont know what u r tryn to say bro.. anyway.... please dont make any racial here in EK plz..

    :yes::yes::yes:
    We should honor diversity of views; even when discussing what we believe as True..

    Theruwan saranai!
     

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    Bismillahi Rahmaniraheem.......(InThe Name Of God Most Gracious & Most Merciful).
    Dear Brother kalyanamithra ,


    Buddha is not saying about a creation, destruction or recreation of univers. he is talikng about leaders human beings. the word cycle means a recurring series of events.he is refring to the cycling process of prophets. further dought please check below.
    From the Burmese source.s.)
    The Buddha said to Sariputta:-

    "......................... Our cycle is a happy one. Three leaders have already lived. Kakusandha, Konogamana And eke the leader Kasapa. The Buddha supreme am I. But after me Metteya comes. While still this happy cycle lasts, Before its tale of years shall lapse This Buddha then Metteya. called Supreme, and of all men the chief"
    Buddhism in Translation by Warren. PP 481 -2.

    my dear brother please don't talk out of context ...i'm talking with the context above mentioned is only a one sayin of Buddha there are plenty of sayings say about the prophecy of coming of a meththaya/maithriya i mean a particular person not as you said below :

    "Maithree" (Metta) is another thing; it's a characterisitc all (practicing) Buddhists cultivate... "Maithree Bavana" is a meditation in which we look at the world with Metta... With practice a person can be with metta around the clock...

    look at Buddhas holy words it is clear like crestal than why you are making it complicated by putting cyclic process of kalpa's.....:rolleyes:

    Pinwath mithura,

    Maithree Buddha would be know as "Maithree" in whatever language at his time... because it's his name..

    And he would be born at the end of this Kalpa.. that's why I told about Kalpa...

    Theruwan saranai!
     

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    Pinwath mithura,

    Isn't this a lie?

    You had quoted from what you think authenticated Buddhist holy scriptures from the beginning (from your first post in this thread)...
    See: we have to be Truthful...

    Theruwan saranai!

    my dear brother can you let me know below mentiond quotation is not an authenticated holy scripture The Gospel of Buddha it's from a ceylon sources.

    (From Ceylon Sources.)
    Ananda "said to the Blessed One.
    'Who shall teach us when thou art gone?"'
    And the Blessed One replied:-
    'I am not the first Buddha who came upon the earth, nor shall I be the last. In due time anothr Buddha will arise in the world, a holy one, a supremely enlightened one, endowed with wisdom in conduct, auspicious, knowing the universe, an incomparable leader of men, a master of angels and mortals. He will reveal to you the same eternal truths which I have taught you. He will preach his religion, glorious in its origin, glorious at the climax, and, glorious at the goal. He will proclaim a religious life, wholly perfect a pure, such as I now proclaim. His disciples will number many thousand, while mine number many hundred.'
    Ananda said, 'How shall we know him?'
    The Blessed One replied, 'He will be known Maitreya.......................'
    The Gospel of Buddha by Carus. PP. 217-8

    ABOVE MENTIONED IS NOT AN AUTHENTICATED SOURCE ?????:rolleyes:
     

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    my dear brother can you let me know below mentiond quotation is not an authenticated holy scripture The Gospel of Buddha it's from a ceylon sources.

    (From Ceylon Sources.)
    Ananda "said to the Blessed One.
    'Who shall teach us when thou art gone?"'
    And the Blessed One replied:-
    'I am not the first Buddha who came upon the earth, nor shall I be the last. In due time anothr Buddha will arise in the world, a holy one, a supremely enlightened one, endowed with wisdom in conduct, auspicious, knowing the universe, an incomparable leader of men, a master of angels and mortals. He will reveal to you the same eternal truths which I have taught you. He will preach his religion, glorious in its origin, glorious at the climax, and, glorious at the goal. He will proclaim a religious life, wholly perfect a pure, such as I now proclaim. His disciples will number many thousand, while mine number many hundred.'
    Ananda said, 'How shall we know him?'
    The Blessed One replied, 'He will be known Maitreya.......................'
    The Gospel of Buddha by Carus. PP. 217-8

    ABOVE MENTIONED IS NOT AN AUTHENTICATED SOURCE ?????:rolleyes:

    Pinwath mithura,

    This portion is from Tipitaka...
    It refers to Maithree Sammasambuddha; who would rediscover and disclose the same Dhamma...

    But you have a mixture of things in your first post in the thread to which I was referring... not all of them are original...

    Pinwath mithura,
    Decided not to reply this tread further... as it's futile..
    and a waste of everyone's time...


    Theruwan saranai
     
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    BUDHDHIST SCRIPTURES / TEXTS

    kalyanamithra said:
    Pinwath mithura,

    Maithree Buddha would be know as "Maithree" in whatever language at his time... because it's his name..

    And he would be born at the end of this Kalpa.. that's why I told about Kalpa...

    Theruwan saranai!

    DEAR BROTHER FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION BELOW MENTIONED ARE THE HOLY BUDHDHIST SCRIPTURES / TEXTS I DON'T THINK SCHOLARS OF BUDDHISM WILL DENY THE AUTHENTICATION ON THESE SCRIPTURES

    Buddhist scriptures and other texts exist in great variety. Different schools of Buddhism place varying levels of value on learning the various texts. Some schools venerate certain texts as religious objects in themselves, while others take a more scholastic approach. The Buddhist canons of scripture are known in Sanskrit as the Tripitaka and in Pāli as the Tipitaka. These terms literally mean "three baskets" and refer to the three main divisions of the canon, which are:
    According to the scriptures, soon after the death of the Buddha, the first Buddhist council was held; a monk named Mahākāśyapa (Pāli: Mahākassapa) presided. The goal of the council was to record the Buddha's sayings—sūtras (Sanskrit) or suttas (Pāli)—and codify monastic rules (Vinaya). Ānanda, the Buddha's personal attendant, was called upon to recite the discourses of the Buddha, and according to some sources the abhidhamma, and Upāli, another disciple, recited the rules of the Vinaya. These became the basis of the Tripitaka. However, this record was initially transmitted orally in form of chanting, and was committed to text in a much later period. Both the sūtras and the Vinaya of every Buddhist school contain a wide variety of elements including discourses on the Dharma, commentaries on other teachings, cosmological and cosmogonical texts, stories of the Buddha's previous lives, and lists relating to various subjects.
    The Theravāda and other early Buddhist Schools traditionally believe that the texts of their canon contain the actual words of the Buddha. The Theravāda canon, also known as the Pāli Canon after the language it was written in, contains some four million words. Other texts, such as the Mahāyāna sūtras, are also considered by some to be the word of the Buddha, but supposedly were transmitted in secret, or via lineages of mythical beings (such as the nāgas), or came directly from other Buddhas or bodhisattvas. Approximately six hundred Mahāyāna sutras have survived in Sanskrit or in Chinese or Tibetan translations. In addition, East Asian Buddhism recognizes some sutras regarded by scholars as of Chinese origin.
    The followers of Theravāda Buddhism take the scriptures known as the Pāli Canon as definitive and authoritative, while the followers of Mahāyāna Buddhism base their faith and philosophy primarily on the Mahāyāna sūtras and their own versions of the Vinaya. The Pāli sutras, along with other, closely-related scriptures, are known to the other schools as the āgamas.
    Whereas the Theravādins adhere solely to the Pali canon and its commentaries, the adherents of Mahāyāna accept both the agamas and the Mahāyāna sūtras as authentic, valid teachings of the Buddha, designed for different types of persons and different levels of spiritual penetration. For the Theravādins, however, the Mahayana sūtras are works of poetic fiction, not the words of the Buddha himself. The Theravadins are confident that the Pali canon represents the full and final statement by the Buddha of his Dhamma—and nothing more is truly needed beyond that. Anything added which claims to be the word of the Buddha and yet is not found in the Canon or its commentaries is treated with extreme caution if not outright rejection by Theravada.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Konchog-wangdu.jpeg
    Buddhist monk Geshe Konchog Wangdu reads Mahayana sutras from an old woodblock copy of the Tibetan Kanjur.
    For the Mahāyānists, in contrast, the āgamas do indeed contain basic, foundational, and, therefore, relatively weighty pronouncements of the Buddha. From the Mahayana standpoint the Mahāyāna sutras articulate the Buddha's higher, more advanced and deeper doctrines, reserved for those who follow the bodhisattva path. That path is explained as being built upon the motivation to liberate all living beings from unhappiness. Hence the name Mahāyāna (lit., the Great Vehicle), which expresses availability both to the general masses of sentient beings and those who are more developed. The theme of greatness can be seen in many elements of Mahayana Buddhism, from the length of some of the Mahayana sutras and the vastness of the Bodhisattva vow, which strives for all future time to help free all other persons and creatures from pain), to the (in some sutras and Tantras) final attainment of the Buddha's "Great Self" (mahatman) in the sphere of "Great Nirvana" (mahanirvana). For Theravadins and many scholars, including A.K. Warder,[85] however, the self-proclaimed "greatness" of the Mahayana Sutras does not make them a true account of the life and teachings of Gautama Buddha.
    Unlike many religions, Buddhism has no single central text that is universally referred to by all traditions. However, some scholars have referred to the Vinaya Pitaka and the first four Nikayas of the Sutta Pitaka as the common core of all Buddhist traditions.[86] However, this could be considered misleading, as Mahāyāna considers these merely a preliminary, and not a core, teaching, the Tibetan Buddhists have not even translated most of the āgamas, though theoretically they recognize them, and they play no part in the religious life of either clergy or laity in China and Japan.[87] The size and complexity of the Buddhist canons have been seen by some (including Buddhist social reformer Babasaheb Ambedkar) as presenting barriers to the wider understanding of Buddhist philosophy.
    Over the years, various attempts have been made to synthesize a single Buddhist text that can encompass all of the major principles of Buddhism. In the Theravada tradition, condensed 'study texts' were created that combined popular or influential scriptures into single volumes that could be studied by novice monks. Later in Sri Lanka, the Dhammapada was championed as a unifying scripture.
    Dwight Goddard collected a sample of Buddhist scriptures, with the emphasis on Zen, along with other classics of Eastern philosophy, such as the Tao Te Ching, into his 'Buddhist Bible' in the 1920s. More recently, Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar attempted to create a single, combined document of Buddhist principles in "The Buddha and His Dhamma". Other such efforts have persisted to present day, but currently there is no single text that represents all Buddhist traditions.

    PLEASE DON'T GIVE COMMENTS WITH YOUR OWN I'M REPLYING WITH THE SCRIPTURES SO THE VEIWERS WILL UNDERSTAND

    REGARDIN SRI_LION YO SAID HE CAN'T PROVE THAT BUDDHISM IS RIGHT BUT I CAN PROVE THAT ISLAM IS RIGHT BECOZ IT IS THE TRUTH (other member don't get upset this is personaly for kalyanamithra brother) EVEN IF SRI_LION OR ANYONE ELSE WILLING TO ENTER THE ISLAM WHAT IS HARM IN IT BECOZ SRI LANKA HAS THE RELIGOUS FREEDOM

    TRUTH HAS COME FALSEHOOD HAS VANISHED
    OHH ALLAH I CONVEYED MY MESSAGE TO THIS EK'S

    IF THEY ACCEPT THE TRUTH ALLAH GUIDE AND BLESS THEM IF NOT HE WIIL BREAK THEIR BACK YOU IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT
     

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    Pinwath mithura,

    This portion is from Tipitaka...
    It refers to Maithree Sammasambuddha; who would rediscover and disclose the same Dhamma...

    But you have a mixture of things in your first post in the thread to which I was referring... not all of them are original...

    Pinwath mithura,
    Decided not to reply this tread further... as it's futile..
    and a waste of everyone's time...


    Theruwan saranai

    MY DEAR BROTHER YOU WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE THREADS AND THE POST AND THE REPLYS THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS WAS CONTINUING REPLYS AND COMMENT I THINK YOU MISSED TO SEE THE FIRST PORTION OF THIS THREAD IF YOU SAW THEM YOU WILL NOT COMMENT THIS I WAS INDICATING AS AUTHENTICATED SOURCES IS THAT ALL THE THREAD I POST FROM IF YOU WANT I CAN POST ALL THE SAYINGS OF LORD BUDDHA IN VARIOUS COUNTRIES SOURCES ONCE AGAIN. IN THE THREAD I POSTED MOST GOSPELS OF LORD BUDDHA FROM THE AUTHENTICATED SOURCES AROUND THE WORLD IF YOU WANT I WILL POST IT AGAIN DO YOU NEED TO REVIEW ALL AGAIN ?????

    IF YOU WANT LET ME KNOW I WILL POST IT ALL AGAIN
     

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    Maitreya Identified

    MOHAMMED IS MAITREYA BUDDHA
    The followers of Jesus and of Shankaracharya both advertise their respective teachers as the Buddha Maitreya. Their own teachers remained silent on the point in their life-times. Not so Mohammed. Unlike Jesus and Shankaracharya he himself published that he was sent as the Maitreya (Mercy):-
    "We have not sent thee (O Mohammed) but (as) a Mercy unto-creaturcs." (The Koran 21. P.26)
    Very often the prophet is called a Maitreya (Mercy) in the Koran
    (1) "(Thouart sent as) a Mercy (Maitreya) from thy Lord." (Ibid. 28. P382)
    (2) "There are some of them who injure the prophet and say, he is an ear: Answer, He is an ear of good unto you: he believeth in God and giveth credit to the faithful and is a mercy (Maitreya) unto such of you who bclieve. (Ibid. 9. PP. 187-8.)

    A number of times in his conversation Mohammed gave out that he was sent as a Maitreya:-
    (1) Narrator Ahu Saieh. "The apostle of God used to address people, 'O people, I am a Mercy (Maitreya) (who is) sent (to you.)'" (D.P. 6.)
    (2) On the field, of Ohod Mohammed "was very near losing his life, being struck down by a shower of stones, and wounded in the face with arrows." (Sale's Koran Foot Note P. 60.) When in this pitiable plight and profusely bleeding some of his companions asked him to curse the unbelieving enemy, he declined their request and prayed for the unbelieving enemy:- "I have not been sent for cursing, but as an inviter (unto God) and a Mercy (Maitreya). 0 God, guide my people (and forgive them) as they know' mc not." (M.Quoted in RAHMAT-AL-LIL-ALAMINA Vol 1. p. 114 by Q Md. Sulaiman.)

    "Mohammed was at all times of an affectionate disposition, and even demonstratively so" (Mohammed by S.D. Margoliouth P. 70.). "In the Koran he repeatedly points out what a privilege his presence is. and how he is a proof or embodiment of God's Mercy to the world" (Ibid. P.52).
    "It is a wonderful thing," observes Mr. Holland, "that Mohammed born of a fierce and war-like race, a people given to many cruel practices, should have so much regard for compassion. He thanked God who had put in men's heart to be compassionate........of all the qualities he regarded compassion as the most God-like, and every chapter of the Koran begins with this invocation, 'In the name of God the Compassionate, the Merciful'" (The Story of Mohammad P. 100).
    MEASUREMENT OF HEARTS
    From the Muslim point of view all the inspired teachers of humanity, being the commissioned representatives of the most Merciful upon the earth, were all men of merciful nature. Their hearts were vast treasure houses of mercy. They were men of much more merciful nature than the uninspired. God in his wisdom chose to bestow upon them various amounts of His mercy. The Koran says -
    "These are the apostles; We have preferred some of them before others." (2. P. 36)
    Compared among themselves, some of the apostles were more merciful than others. We maintain that through the grace of God Mohammed had received the greatest portion of His mercy. In other words, the heart of Mohammed was the greatest treasure house of mercy, as compared with the hearts of other apostles. How to know this? We want a standard for measuring the merciful extent of hearts. Jesus gives a standard:-
    "Out of the abundance of heart the mouth speaketh." (Matt. 12:34)
    "The tongue" writes Rt. Rev. W. W. How D. D.. "is the truest sign of the state of the heart............The fountain within shall over-flow in the words of the mouth.........."(Commentary on the New Testament.)
    In guidance of the above we suppose that if in the teachings of an inspired teacher the word "mercy" or "merciful" occurs once his heart is merciful to. one degree. With this standard we measure the merciful extent of the heart of Mohammed. The words "mercy" and "merciful" are used more than 409 times in the Koran alone.
    We intentionally leave out the words occurring In the Hadis literature of more than quarter of a million of pages in which the sayings of the holy prophet are recorded. Therefore the heart of the holy prophet was merciful more than 409 degrees.
    Now we measure the merciful extent of the heart of Jesus with his own standard. From the record of the four Gospels of the Bible we learn that the words "mercy" and "merciful" drop from the lips of Jesus only 9 times. Therefore his heart was merciful to 9 degrees only.
    In view of the above an impartial enquirer shall consider Mohammed as the Buddha Maitreya in preference to Jesus.
    The vast extent of the merciful nature of Mohammed is well expressed by the Koran:-
    "Certainly an apostle has come to you from among yourselves, grievous to him is your falling into distress, excessively solicitous respecting you; to the believers (he is) compassionate-merciful." (IX.128.)
    "Compassionate" is the translation of the Arabic word "Raoof" which according to Bokari (Vol. 2. P. 299) means "very great mercy." Raoof "denotes a more special and a more tender affection than Rahmet, or the utmost degree thereof."(Arabic English Lexicon by Lane.)
    Shankaracharya being not an inspired teacher we leave him out of consideration.
    AN INCORRUPTIBLE NAME.
    When we go through the works written by men of various nations on Islam we observe one curious thing. The word "Mohammed" is spelled in a number of ways, as "Mahamet," "Mahomet," "Mohamet," "Mehemet," "Mahemmet,"..........
    We utilise some of these natural differences for our purpose.
    1. "Mahamet or Mahomet." The word seems to be composed of Maaha and Metta. The word Maho or Maha in Pali and Sanskrit means "Great, illustrious" (The Student's H. E. Dictionary by R. N. Lal) Metta means "mercy." Therefore the entire word Mahamet or Mahomet means "an illustrious mercy" or a great mercy". The Koran gives out that Mohammed is "a great mercy."
    2. "Mohamet" seems to be composed of Moh and Metta. Moh in Sanskrit means, "Affection or sympathy";(Ibid.) therefore the entire word means "of an affectionate or of sympathetic mercy". The events of the life of Mohammed show that he was of a sympathetic nature to an extra-ordinary degree. We shall describe these events in details.
    3. "Mehemet" seems to be composed of "Meh" and "Metta." Meh means "rain." (The Student's H. E. Dictionary by R. N. Lal) Therefore the entire word means ''a mercy like rain", or "a man who rains mercy in general." According to the Koran rain is a general blessing of God to His creatures:-
    (a) "We send down rain as blessing from heaven, whereby We cause the gardens to spring forth and the grain of harvest, and tall palm trees having branches laden with dates, hanging one above another as a provision for man-kind, and We thereby quicken a dead country."(50.P.500.)
    (b) "He sendeth down water from heaven, and quickneth thereby the earth, after it hath been dead: verily herein are signs unto people who understand." (30. P. 396.)
    (c) "Dost thou not see that God sendeth down water from heaven, and causeth the same to enter (and form) sources on the earth, and produceth thereby corn of various sorts."(39. P. 451.)

    Just as rain is a general blessing and mercy of God to all His creatures so the holy prophet was a mercy to all His creatures: the Koran supports this "We have not sent thee (O Mohammed) but (as) a mercy-unto-all-creatures." (21 P.326)
    4. 'Mahemmet" seems to be composed of "Mahema" or "Mahima" which in Sanskrit means "greatness; glory," (The Studenti H. E. Dictionary by R. N. Lal.) and Metta which means "mercy." Therefore the entire word means "the glorious mercy" or a great mercy."
     

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    hey...dude....let me stress this point to you! B'LIV WOT U B'LIV N LET OTHRS B'LIV WOT THEY WNT TO B'LIV, V DDNT SAY ALLAH IZ BUDDHA, BCZ V KNW THT HURTS U AS WELL AS US, BT U HERE QUOTE N INTERPRET FACTS FROM OUR RELIGION D WAY U WANT TO PROVE !
    SO PLZ DROP THIS N DNT HURT BUDDHISM !
     

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    HOPE U HV DROPPED IT, THIS IZ A REQUEST SINCE IT HURTS US BHUDDISTS TO BE INTERPRETED LIKE DAT..ACCEPT D DIVERSITY AS U SA U DO N LEAVE IT.

    PS : THIS IZ A HUMBLE REQUEST, BY NO CHANCE IT ZNT A WAY TO ESCAPE WTHOUT ANSWERS, I WUDNT LIKE TO ANSWER U SINCE I KNW IT WILL HURT U N UR RELIGION, SO AS U SAY PEACE TO ALL !

    BUDUSARANAI !

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    HOPE U HV DROPPED IT, THIS IZ A REQUEST SINCE IT HURTS US BHUDDISTS TO BE INTERPRETED LIKE DAT..ACCEPT D DIVERSITY AS U SA U DO N LEAVE IT.

    PS : THIS IZ A HUMBLE REQUEST, BY NO CHANCE IT ZNT A WAY TO ESCAPE WTHOUT ANSWERS, I WUDNT LIKE TO ANSWER U SINCE I KNW IT WILL HURT U N UR RELIGION, SO AS U SAY PEACE TO ALL !

    BUDUSARANAI !

    IF I'VE HURT THE FEELINGS OF MY BUDDHIST BROTHERS I'M TERRIBLY SORRY FOR THAT ALL MY INTENTION WAS TO SAID THE TRUTH. THIS THREAD WAS LONG JUST BECOZ OF SOME POEPLE ARGUE WITH ME THAT I'M LYING AND ALL THE INFORMATION WHICH I POST REGARDING AUTHENTICATED SOURCES WHICH I TOOK IS WRONG!!!!!! YOU CAN'T HURT OUR FEELINGS SOME BROTHERS ALREADY ABUSED ISLAM EVEN THOUGH OUR MUSLIM EK'S ARE PATIENT AND WE ARE ANSWERING THEM IN THE WAY OF OUR PROPHET MUHAMMED.

    NOW PEOPLE KNOWS IN WHICH SIDE IS THE TRUTH AND THE VICTORY IS THAT'S WHY EK MEMBERS ARE THE SILENT. SINCE YOU PEOPLE REQUEST FOR STOP THIS ARGUMENT I'M STOPPING THIS IF SOME ONE START AGAIN I WILL NOT STOP TILL THEY KICK ME OUT OF THIS EK FORUM

    2.190. Fight against those who fight against you in the way of Allah, but do not transgress, for Allah does not love transgressors


    If they ... assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief ... Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges, and purposed to drive out the messenger and did attack you first? What! Fear ye them? Now Allah hath more right that ye should fear Him, if ye are believers Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them. 9:12-14


    2.193. Keep on fighting against them until mischief ends and the way prescribed by Allah prevails. But if they desist, then know that hostility is only against the wrong-doers.

    UPON THE HUMBLE REQUEST OF THE Upulcranga BROTHER I WILL QUIT THIS THREAD SINCE THIS HURTS BUDDHIST BROTHERS AND SISTERS

    MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU ALL AND GUIDE YOU TOWARDS THE TRUTH

    I BEAR WITNESS THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, MUHAMMAD PBUH IS MESSENGER OF ALLAH