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<blockquote data-quote="I love Srilanka" data-source="post: 10647886" data-attributes="member: 244944"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">AncientGlory</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></strong></p><p>Actually we should. If a person did a single wrong thing, that is enough to judge a person. If the allegations are true, that is enough to come to a conclusion about prophet Muhammad. And we are not talking about a wrong he did impulsively one time, The claim is that he did have sex with a child over and over. If it is true, he clearly knew he what he was doing.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>Really..To judge a person you want to have a single wrong thing which is controversial and doubtable even among Muslims. Being you are a honest person, why don’t u discuss with me some other things in which he involved.i don’t want to doubt your intention Just because you told me many times that you are not an anti Islamist whatever you write is your personal opinion, but I need to ask you once again are u true? That u r not an anti islmaist as your thinking is same as the other anti islamist and Christian missionaries. They keep saying he had sex with child over and over. And they forgot about she is his legal wife, they had legal marriage contract, with the agreement of their parents marriage held, she reached puberty, Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries and no where Aisha herself pointed out in her life period that her marriage is not acceptable. But what they failed to provide is that, some more proof to strength their allegation such as</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>01) if he is such a character person, how many more child girl he had sex with</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>02) proof from aisha for disagreement for this wedding in her total life period</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>03) If he wanted to have child sex like that, he could have very well had even without marriage, also with more than one.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>04) If allegation is true, he could have selected child in his other marriage as well.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>05) Nowhere in his life history had he ever even alleged to be attempted for rape.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>06) Nowhere in the history people who lived of prophet time has objected or criticized this marriage.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>Can you give me sources to where scholars claim that Aisha was 16?</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">If you are ready to spend some time please read this.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><a href="http://ilovezakirnaik.com/madamayeshah/index.htm" target="_blank">http://ilovezakirnaik.com/madamayeshah/index.htm</a></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well if we can't come in to an agreement there is a chance he actually did marry a girl at the age of 6. So the accusations can be still valid. But I have to say that your approach in this particular issue is quite interesting and appreciable. Rather than trying to justify Prophet's action of having a sex with a 9 year old when he was 54(or 52, which is it?), you say that Aisha might not have been 9 at all. Which is fairly a better stand point and acceptable to a certain degree, even though it's still strange that a man of 54 would marry a girl of 19 anything other than having sexual desires for her.</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>What is your benchmark, who made this bench mark? Why a good man can’t marry a girl who reached puberty if their parents will so? I don’t mind as long as he is taking care of his young wife and able to satisfy and provide the things that she requires. Anyway prophet Mohammed’s purpose of marriage to aisha was totally different. it was purely for sociopolitical reason. The Prophet’s main concern was the future of Islam. He was interested in strengthening the Muslims by all bonds. This also explains the reason why he married the daughter of `Umar, his Second Successor. It was by his marriage to Juwayriyyah that he gained the support for Islam of the whole clan of Bani Al-Mustaliq and their allied tribes. It was through his marriage to Safiyyah that he neutralized a great section of the hostile Jews of Arabia. By accepting Mariya, the Copt from Egypt, as his wife, he formed a political alliance with a king of great magnitude. So his marriage to `Aisha could never be of anything save cementing his relation with Abu Bakr, `Aisha’s father. </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><u>If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam. </u></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>And the fact that she had spoken so dearly of the Prophet was indicative of the innocence of the marriage and of the impeccable character of her husband because given the trust enjoyed by her by the virtue of her relationship with him, she could have unleashed a vengeful attack against him by attributing to him words or deeds of horrendous nature if indeed she was a victim of his supposed lust, destroying both the Prophet and Islam. </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: Red">No sexual abuse victim would ever spoke positively of her attacker, much less becoming a channel that promote love and understanding of him and the message which he had brought.</span>" it is quite surprise you and other non muslims are taking up this issues but not aisha.</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>This theory of yours makes no sense at all. There are many people through out the history who did hundreds of good deeds and who were praised by the society and in the end, ended up doing bad. How many good things a certain individual has done, is not a bearing to say that there's no way he could have done something bad. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">For you bad thing may not be bad thing for others. Depend on the situation and purpose of the act.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>.this incidence has been picked up by many non muslims who are hatred towards islam allege prophet mohammed to be a wrong man. see this matter has been made such a famous issue by christian missionaries though St. Joseph was an old man 90 at the time of marriage with the Mother of God Mary who was 12-14.this issue no one knows including christians themself,so imagine the amount of publicity made against prophet mohammed.</p><p></p><p>Irrelevant.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>You are talking about age gap; I never come across someone asking to Christians the same question. Other than people bashing to prophet mohammed about his age gap with aisha.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p>I will bring these points forward after you provide me sources and proof to the claim that say's Aisha was actually 19 not 9. I have a reason for this. I did not say that I would base my conclusion about Prophet Muhammad on one point or one bad deed. But in Prophet Muhammad's case he didn't do it once. He married a child and had sex with her over and over until he died. He kept a child bride for many years. That is not just one bad deed. Mind you these are only the bad things he did, witch are relevant to this thread. There are many more.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>19 or 9 my answer will be same, his purpose of the marriage totally different, my above replies are proving that he never fond of having child sex, neither u can bring any proof for such an incidence except his legal marriage with parents consent. As you quote He had sex with child bride until he dies; even if I agree for sake of argument, a person who has such likes should have done more than once and with more than one.also this accusation should have come from aisha herself if she was victim of this, but it is laughable that people who don’t want to see islam’s growth still keep on trying to screw the islam and its prophet with baseless points and the narrow own thinking.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p></p><p>No need to go in to points. One point is enough. It was quite clear to me that Prophet Muhammad was a sick man who married a child and had sex with her over and over until he died.</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>So really you had only one point in your careful study to conclude with. it is laughable… Your careful study looks ill and weak to me. First of all a careful study, can’t have one point to conclude with, next one careful study can’t ignore the purpose of the act and also, it has to have some more strong related proof with history of details. But you called prophet Mohammed is sick person based one legal marriage... So don’t call your study as careful study..Inshallah if you don’t trust, if u r adamant to change your mind with subjective view, time will answer you. u will regret soon.I will pray from Allah to give u good wisdom.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong></strong></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I love Srilanka, post: 10647886, member: 244944"] [B][SIZE="3"]AncientGlory [/SIZE][/B] Actually we should. If a person did a single wrong thing, that is enough to judge a person. If the allegations are true, that is enough to come to a conclusion about prophet Muhammad. And we are not talking about a wrong he did impulsively one time, The claim is that he did have sex with a child over and over. If it is true, he clearly knew he what he was doing. [SIZE="3"][FONT="Arial"][B]Really..To judge a person you want to have a single wrong thing which is controversial and doubtable even among Muslims. Being you are a honest person, why don’t u discuss with me some other things in which he involved.i don’t want to doubt your intention Just because you told me many times that you are not an anti Islamist whatever you write is your personal opinion, but I need to ask you once again are u true? That u r not an anti islmaist as your thinking is same as the other anti islamist and Christian missionaries. They keep saying he had sex with child over and over. And they forgot about she is his legal wife, they had legal marriage contract, with the agreement of their parents marriage held, she reached puberty, Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries and no where Aisha herself pointed out in her life period that her marriage is not acceptable. But what they failed to provide is that, some more proof to strength their allegation such as 01) if he is such a character person, how many more child girl he had sex with 02) proof from aisha for disagreement for this wedding in her total life period 03) If he wanted to have child sex like that, he could have very well had even without marriage, also with more than one. 04) If allegation is true, he could have selected child in his other marriage as well. 05) Nowhere in his life history had he ever even alleged to be attempted for rape. 06) Nowhere in the history people who lived of prophet time has objected or criticized this marriage. [/B][/FONT][/SIZE] Can you give me sources to where scholars claim that Aisha was 16? [FONT="Arial"][B][SIZE="3"]If you are ready to spend some time please read this. [url]http://ilovezakirnaik.com/madamayeshah/index.htm[/url] [/SIZE][/B][/FONT] Well if we can't come in to an agreement there is a chance he actually did marry a girl at the age of 6. So the accusations can be still valid. But I have to say that your approach in this particular issue is quite interesting and appreciable. Rather than trying to justify Prophet's action of having a sex with a 9 year old when he was 54(or 52, which is it?), you say that Aisha might not have been 9 at all. Which is fairly a better stand point and acceptable to a certain degree, even though it's still strange that a man of 54 would marry a girl of 19 anything other than having sexual desires for her. [FONT="Arial"][SIZE="3"][B]What is your benchmark, who made this bench mark? Why a good man can’t marry a girl who reached puberty if their parents will so? I don’t mind as long as he is taking care of his young wife and able to satisfy and provide the things that she requires. Anyway prophet Mohammed’s purpose of marriage to aisha was totally different. it was purely for sociopolitical reason. The Prophet’s main concern was the future of Islam. He was interested in strengthening the Muslims by all bonds. This also explains the reason why he married the daughter of `Umar, his Second Successor. It was by his marriage to Juwayriyyah that he gained the support for Islam of the whole clan of Bani Al-Mustaliq and their allied tribes. It was through his marriage to Safiyyah that he neutralized a great section of the hostile Jews of Arabia. By accepting Mariya, the Copt from Egypt, as his wife, he formed a political alliance with a king of great magnitude. So his marriage to `Aisha could never be of anything save cementing his relation with Abu Bakr, `Aisha’s father. [U]If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam. [/U] And the fact that she had spoken so dearly of the Prophet was indicative of the innocence of the marriage and of the impeccable character of her husband because given the trust enjoyed by her by the virtue of her relationship with him, she could have unleashed a vengeful attack against him by attributing to him words or deeds of horrendous nature if indeed she was a victim of his supposed lust, destroying both the Prophet and Islam. [COLOR="Red"]No sexual abuse victim would ever spoke positively of her attacker, much less becoming a channel that promote love and understanding of him and the message which he had brought.[/COLOR]" it is quite surprise you and other non muslims are taking up this issues but not aisha. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] This theory of yours makes no sense at all. There are many people through out the history who did hundreds of good deeds and who were praised by the society and in the end, ended up doing bad. How many good things a certain individual has done, is not a bearing to say that there's no way he could have done something bad. [FONT="Arial"][B][SIZE="3"]For you bad thing may not be bad thing for others. Depend on the situation and purpose of the act. [/SIZE][/B][/FONT] .this incidence has been picked up by many non muslims who are hatred towards islam allege prophet mohammed to be a wrong man. see this matter has been made such a famous issue by christian missionaries though St. Joseph was an old man 90 at the time of marriage with the Mother of God Mary who was 12-14.this issue no one knows including christians themself,so imagine the amount of publicity made against prophet mohammed. Irrelevant. [SIZE="3"][FONT="Arial"][B]You are talking about age gap; I never come across someone asking to Christians the same question. Other than people bashing to prophet mohammed about his age gap with aisha. [/B][/FONT][/SIZE] I will bring these points forward after you provide me sources and proof to the claim that say's Aisha was actually 19 not 9. I have a reason for this. I did not say that I would base my conclusion about Prophet Muhammad on one point or one bad deed. But in Prophet Muhammad's case he didn't do it once. He married a child and had sex with her over and over until he died. He kept a child bride for many years. That is not just one bad deed. Mind you these are only the bad things he did, witch are relevant to this thread. There are many more. [SIZE="3"][FONT="Arial"][B]19 or 9 my answer will be same, his purpose of the marriage totally different, my above replies are proving that he never fond of having child sex, neither u can bring any proof for such an incidence except his legal marriage with parents consent. As you quote He had sex with child bride until he dies; even if I agree for sake of argument, a person who has such likes should have done more than once and with more than one.also this accusation should have come from aisha herself if she was victim of this, but it is laughable that people who don’t want to see islam’s growth still keep on trying to screw the islam and its prophet with baseless points and the narrow own thinking. [/B][/FONT][/SIZE] No need to go in to points. One point is enough. It was quite clear to me that Prophet Muhammad was a sick man who married a child and had sex with her over and over until he died. [SIZE="3"][FONT="Arial"][B]So really you had only one point in your careful study to conclude with. it is laughable… Your careful study looks ill and weak to me. First of all a careful study, can’t have one point to conclude with, next one careful study can’t ignore the purpose of the act and also, it has to have some more strong related proof with history of details. But you called prophet Mohammed is sick person based one legal marriage... So don’t call your study as careful study..Inshallah if you don’t trust, if u r adamant to change your mind with subjective view, time will answer you. u will regret soon.I will pray from Allah to give u good wisdom. [/B][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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