This is how Buddha sasana would disappear.

[sirajstc]

thx Atula keep posting

 

[sirajstc]

siraj's buddhist version

copy past

koe giyath man innawane

 

[sirajstc]

Another interesting point in this sutta is that
Buddha
does not name any outside force
which is harmful to Buddha Saasana.
Only foolish Bhikkhu Bhikkunie Upasaka Upasika will make
Buddha sasana disappear.



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Yes m8 Agree
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[sirajstc]

please continue, and tell us what you know, what you heard, what you felt...
we are listening..

yes

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

koe giyath man innawane

I like all of them to be here since religious issues can't be there.
I think Alawaka, Angulimala, Maagandiya needed Dhamma more than Anathapindika and Vsakha.

Some Elakirians burn themselves with hatred first and try to burn others too.
Idha Thappathi, Pechcha Thappathi.
Denuth dewenawa, passeth dewenawa.
You get burnt now and you get burnt later too.
Thats why they need Dhamma more.
Dhamma is the only way out for the suffering.
Not memorizing Dhamma..
but to develop the ability to see that one burns himself first when ever he hates... but most of the times without achieving anything

 

[sirajstc]

yaayayayaa

 

[neo76]

The highlighted bit reminds me of the Revelations . About the rise of the Anti Chirst.

However, I think what was said there is if and when some person who claims he had attained the state of a Buddha who acts to the part to perfection that he is able to fool all those that comes to him in convincing that he is a real Buddha and spreads his own teaching, the true teachings of a real Buddha will be lost from this world.

The scenario is true to any teaching not just Buddhism.

good, good explanation

 

[kosandpol]

good, good explanation

Oh, I need to add something to the original explanation, The reason the false buddha will be able to spread his word to the point that the real Buddhism will be lost is that the followers are not intelligent enough to see through the false teachings of the false buddha. This is because the followers of Buddhism forgot one of the principle teaching of Buddhism : "Never accept something just because someone tells it, analyze it first by your self and accept it only when you see that its correct".

 

[neo76]

Yes m8 Agree
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yes. I too have heard that. The other teachings can't challenge and beat the philosophy behind buddhism. I'm not insulting other religions. They all wanted to teach something good to humans and to make them better. But, there's much more than just a religion inside buddhism. There's a great philosophy, even the great scientists have been unable to say no. On the other hand, the definition of "science" is the "organized knowledge". So, there can't be 2 truths. So, what ultimately the science says, the loard buddah has said it 2500 years ago. For example, the scientists now believe in rebirth, as there are now much, much evidence to which you cannot explain with another theory.
Recently I watched the movie "The Matrix" which consists of part 1, 2 & 3. Did anyone notice their theme. It is "Everyting that has a beginning, has an end".
So that's what buddhism says.
Anyway, we have to be careful of the miths or bizzare things in buddhism. You have to put them into your mind. If it is acceptable according to the "dharma & vinaya" you already know, then you accept that. Otherwise not.

 

[kosandpol]

Recently I watched the movie "The Matrix" which consists of part 1, 2 & 3. Did anyone notice their theme. It is "Everyting that has a beginning, has an end".

Dont try to read too much in to Matrix movies. The creators deliberately incorporated several religious themes in to the movie just to make it interesting. Not to make any statement of any sort.

 

[neo76]

Oh, I need to add something to the original explanation, The reason the false buddha will be able to spread his word to the point that the real Buddhism will be lost is that the followers are not intelligent enough to see through the false teachings of the false buddha. This is because the followers of Buddhism forgot one of the principle teaching of Buddhism : "Never accept something just because someone tells it, analyze it first by your self and accept it only when you see that its correct".

Exactly. බුදුන් වදාලේ, මෙය මා විසින් පවසන ලදැයි යමෙක් පැවසුවත්, එය ඔබ විසින් දැනගත්තා වූ ධර්මයට හා විනයට නොගැලපේනම්, එය ඔබ විසින් ඇත්ත යයි භාර නොගත යුතු ලෙසයි. but, as "everything that has a beginning, has an end, the buddhism will come to an end, in the age of කාසාව කන්ටක භික්ශුව. we assume that period will be arround 5000 years from the loard buddha's time.

 

[neo76]

Dont try to read too much in to Matrix movies. The creators deliberately incorporated several religious themes in to the movie just to make it interesting. Not to make any statement of any sort.

Hey.
Does it contain any catholic or muslim theme. I did not notice.
Anyway, I love that movie.

 

[kosandpol]

Hey.
Does it contain any catholic or muslim theme. I did not notice.
Anyway, I love that movie.

Matrix 2 and 3, Neo being heralded as a healer and great teacher in Zion, his self sacrifice so that Zion will be spared was directly taken from Christianity. The Walwosky brothers pretty much said so in an interview about the movie series.

 

[ChuttaFX]

yes. I too have heard that. The other teachings can't challenge and beat the philosophy behind buddhism. I'm not insulting other religions. They all wanted to teach something good to humans and to make them better. But, there's much more than just a religion inside buddhism. There's a great philosophy, even the great scientists have been unable to say no. On the other hand, the definition of "science" is the "organized knowledge". So, there can't be 2 truths. So, what ultimately the science says, the loard buddah has said it 2500 years ago. For example, the scientists now believe in rebirth, as there are now much, much evidence to which you cannot explain with another theory.
Recently I watched the movie "The Matrix" which consists of part 1, 2 & 3. Did anyone notice their theme. It is "Everyting that has a beginning, has an end".
So that's what buddhism says.
Anyway, we have to be careful of the miths or bizzare things in buddhism. You have to put them into your mind. If it is acceptable according to the "dharma & vinaya" you already know, then you accept that. Otherwise not.

i've noticed some kind of things u r talking about in Matrix. some parts of the film can be true. the neo is the only one whole can see how actually the Matrix is. he feel nothing abt the girl in Matrix 2. there is a real world in Matrix movie. but i feel that there is no real world, only the matrix where we r living. however it's a film/imagination. not the whole film is true.

 

[kosandpol]

i've noticed some kind of things u r talking about in Matrix. some part of the film can be true. the neo is the only one whole can see how actually the Matrix is. he feel nothing abt the girl in Matrix 2. there is a real world in Matrix movie. but i feel that there is no real world, only the matrix where we r living. however it's a film/imagination. not the whole film is true. only some parts.

The matrix is heavily influenced by the Ghost in the Shell anime. Especially the society where humans and machines are interconnected over the internet and cyber attacks. Heck some of the action scenes were taken from the anime as well.
However, both are stories. Not real life. Dont read too much in to the movie.

 

[ChuttaFX]

The matrix is heavily influenced by the Ghost in the Shell anime. Especially the society where humans and machines are interconnected over the internet and cyber attacks. Heck some of the action scenes were taken from the anime as well.
However, both are stories. Not real life. Dont read too much in to the movie.

yeah. i mean only some points what i've highlighted. not the whole film. it's just a imagination.

 

[neo76]

i've noticed some kind of things u r talking about in Matrix. some parts of the film can be true. the neo is the only one whole can see how actually the Matrix is. he feel nothing abt the girl in Matrix 2. there is a real world in Matrix movie. but i feel that there is no real world, only the matrix where we r living. however it's a film/imagination. not the whole film is true.

at one point the "morphies" explains neo, what "real" is. All the five sences are just electrical signals. if we could give the electrical impulses externally, by some or other way, the brain will think that it as real and we'd be addicted to those impulses as by now we are addicted to the five sences. Our brain just interprit them as real. (taste or colour or anything else) Yes, it's true that we have only the matrix. Not another "real world". Anyway, there's something to think. Anyway, what do you think of the "choice' the "architect" talks about in the presence of neo. Have you watched "the Minority Report". They also talk/ chriticize about the "choice". In any situation we have a choice.

That's why the buddhism is not a "niyathi waada" like some other religions does. The future is not written anywhere. It depends on how we act today. Simply the choise we choose in different different situations in situations where there are more than one option. So, We can't see past a choice.

Don't tell that I'm crazy over that movie.
I may be..

 

[ChuttaFX]

at one point the "morphies" explains neo, what "real" is. All the five sences are just electrical signals. if we could give the electrical impulses externally, by some or other way, the brain will think that it as real and we'd be addicted to those impulses as by now we are addicted to the five sences. Our brain just interprit them as real. (taste or colour or anything else) Yes, it's true that we have only the matrix. Not another "real world". Anyway, there's something to think. Anyway, what do you think of the "choice' the "architect" talks about in the presence of neo. Have you watched "the Minority Report". They also talk/ chriticize about the "choice". In any situation we have a choice.

That's why the buddhism is not a "niyathi waada" like some other religions does. The future is not written anywhere. It depends on how we act today. Simply the choise we choose in different different situations in situations where there are more than one option. So, We can't see past a choice.

Don't tell that I'm crazy over that movie.
I may be..

hik hik it's the best sci-fi moive i've ever seen. anyway buddhism wasn't a religion or science. it's a philosophy. science is what we feel. science gets changed always. but a fact-ful philosophy never gets changed. doesn't it?

 

[neo76]

yeah. i mean only some points what i've highlighted. not the whole film. it's just a imagination.

yes. that's imagination. but, still that movie gives us something to think about. (unlike the "bolanda" hindi love movies) That ghost thing, what thay say is, if there is a word called ghost (or Superman etc.) that word implies somebody who has the capability of going without been seen to others. The word Superman mean, some body who can fly etc. So.. matrix is a simulation in the cyber space. So.. if one could hack into the system could gain those capabilities by switching into those modes.
Anyway, what i wanted to say was, it's not really talking of buddhism. It's just talking of some ideas.

Anyway, we should be happy as the western world is now thinking of buddhism, as this is the only unchallengable philosophy among all religions. Statistically, in australia, the number of buddhits have increased in australia and some other countries. so....... they are thinking about the great philopghy behind this religion

 

[Faulkner]

Can you summarize it .!!!