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As World Turns it Drags Time and Space

An international team of NASA and university researchers has dramatically improved the accuracy of the first direct evidence that the Earth drags space and time around itself as it rotates. The measurements used the latest gravity models obtained from NASA's GRACE mission.


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Image above: The Grace Satellite's Orbit - This image shows the orbit track of the twin GRACE satellites. In one month its track will densely cover the entire globe. The shaded part of the image is night time. The un-shaded is daytime. The names on the image are ground stations from where scientists talk to the satellite. Credit: Univ. of Texas, GRACE Science Data System

The researchers first measured the "Lense-Thirring Effect," predicted in 1918 using Einstein's theory of general relativity, in 1998 by precisely observing shifts in the orbits of two Earth-orbiting laser-ranging satellites. The team used additional observations of the same satellites, combined with a more accurate model of the Earth's gravity field, to yield the new measurement of the Lense-Thirring Effect.

The team was led by Dr. Ignazio Ciufolini of the University of Lecce, Italy, and Dr. Erricos C. Pavlis of the Joint Center for Earth System Technology, a research collaboration between NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md., and the University of Maryland Baltimore County.

"Our measurement agrees 99 percent with what is predicted by general relativity, which is within our margin of error of plus or minus five percent," said Pavlis. "This is a significant improvement over our 1998 measurement, which had an error margin of plus or minus 20 percent using the best gravitational model available at the time."


Image above: Gravity's Complex Picture and Lageos Satelllite - The relief indicates the deviation of the true gravitational field from that of a perfect spheroid with uniform mass distribution. Red is higher deviation, blue is lower deviation. INSET: The LAGEOS satellite provided the data to test the Einstein theory. The GRACE mission provided the underlying gravitational data. Click on image to enlarge. Credit: Artwork by F. Ricci (Univ. of Roma, "La Sapienza") and I. Ciufolini (Univ. of Lecce), Earth model courtesy of GFZ-Potsdam, Germany.

The researchers observed the orbits of the Laser Geodynamics Satellite I (LAGEOS I), a NASA spacecraft, and LAGEOS II, a joint NASA/Italian Space Agency (ASI) spacecraft.

The research, reported in the journal Nature, is the most accurate direct measurement to date of the Lense-Thirring Effect--a bizarre effect of general relativity, which predicts a rotating mass will drag space around it. The Lense-Thirring Effect is also known as frame dragging.

Frame dragging is like what happens if a bowling ball spins in a thick fluid such as molasses. As the ball spins, it pulls the molasses around itself. Anything stuck in the molasses will also move around the ball. Similarly, as the Earth rotates, it pulls space-time in its vicinity around itself. This will shift the orbits of satellites near Earth.

The measurement is extremely challenging to make because other factors, like changes in the density of the Earth's upper atmosphere, have a much greater effect on satellite orbits than the Lense-Thirring Effect. Additionally, the Earth's gravitational field is not uniform. For example, the mass of a mountain range can tug on a satellite, slightly altering its orbit. The previous measurement was much less accurate than the current work, due to inaccuracies in the gravitational model available at the time.


Image above: ILRS Network Map - This is the map of international laser ranging network stations that collected the LAGEOS satellite data, which were used for this experiment. Click on image to enlarge. Credit: International Laser Ranging Service, Central Bureau/NASA

Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE) mission allowed for a vast improvement in the accuracy of new models, which made this new result possible. The measurements required the use of an extremely accurate model of the Earth's gravitational field, called EIGEN-GRACE02S, which became available only recently, based on an analysis of GRACE data. The model was developed at the GeoForschungs Zentrum Potsdam, Germany, by a group who are co-principal investigators of the GRACE mission along with the Center for Space Research of the University of Texas at Austin.

"We found the plane of the orbits of LAGEOS I and II were shifted about six feet (two meters) per year in the direction of the Earth's rotation," Pavlis said. "Even if the gravitational model errors are off by two or three times the officially quoted values, our measurement is still accurate to 10 percent or better." Future measurements by Gravity Probe B, a NASA spacecraft launched in 2004, should reduce this error margin to less than one percent. This promises to tell researchers much more about the physics involved.

The team analyzed an 11-year period of laser ranging data from the LAGEOS satellites from 1993 to 2003, using a method devised by Ciufolini a decade ago. The new research around Earth is the first direct measurement of this phenomenon at the five to 10 percent level. It has recently been observed around distant celestial objects with intense gravitational fields, such as black holes and neutron stars.

LAGEOS II, launched in 1992, and LAGEOS I, launched in 1976, are passive satellites dedicated exclusively to laser ranging. Round-trip travel time of laser pulses sent to the satellite from ranging stations on Earth are recorded, enabling scientists to precisely determine the distances between the Earth stations and the satellites. Another NASA mission, Gravity Probe B GP-B), will also make a measurement of the frame-dragging (Lense-Thirring) effect, although with ten times better accuracy than the current LAGEOS result. It will also provide the most accurate measure to date of the warpage of space-time caused by the Earth's mass.


Details Taken From - http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/loo...arth_drag.html
 

kosandpol

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    Space around the Earth can certainly get dragged due to earth's gravitational pull but how can time be pulled along with it ? time has no connection with mass.
     

    florealworld

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    think what happens if our timeline terribly go out, nad then what happens to our life schedules................! think again
     

    fallenzeraphine

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    aww this is a nice experiment, solids the general theory of relativity, for the ppl who don't understand what this article is talking about, in 1905 Albert Einstein published General theory of relativity, which suggested that gravity is the bending of space time due to the mass of objects, for an example the earth is going arround the sun because the suns mass has bend the space time arround it in such a way our earth takes a circular path arround it (relatively our earth is traveling in a straight line)
     

    florealworld

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    thnx friends, fallenzeraphine, seems to be u have very keen interst about the subject & u have a whole idea about the subject.
    thnx
     

    upulcranga

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    This info z gud news !
    I'm really in 2 physics, xpecially this type of thngs !, plz do update with new info ASAP !,
    for ppl who dsnt undrstnd, This is a theory stated by Albert Einstein around d period of 1905-1917, through his Special n General relativity theories !, which was a major flowback 4 Newtonian mechanics !, n yes speed of time cn b reduced theoritically !
     

    florealworld

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    upulcranga said:
    This info z gud news !
    I'm really in 2 physics, xpecially this type of thngs !, plz do update with new info ASAP !,
    for ppl who dsnt undrstnd, This is a theory stated by Albert Einstein around d period of 1905-1917, through his Special n General relativity theories !, which was a major flowback 4 Newtonian mechanics !, n yes speed of time cn b reduced theoritically !

    thnx uplu.........u r comment is a big up 2 me..........i'll keep posting a new details of particular subject, thnx
     

    florealworld

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    DJ.Parker said:
    if v can bend time then time travelling is possible I guess
    yes, but is that possible.........i saw there is some suggesions of space time bending, in the book "space, time & creation".
    thnx 4 u r comments bro..........!
     

    upulcranga

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    Time travel is said 2 b theoritically possible, Itz a play field for theoretical physicists !,
    hwvr due to remarkable advances in quantum gravity, physicists are considering n reconsidering this idea !, hwvr this idea comes along with quite interesting paradoxes !, If any1 is interested, I cn post sm paradoxes regarding time travel !
     

    florealworld

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    upulcranga said:
    Time travel is said 2 b theoritically possible, Itz a play field for theoretical physicists !,
    hwvr due to remarkable advances in quantum gravity, physicists are considering n reconsidering this idea !, hwvr this idea comes along with quite interesting paradoxes !, If any1 is interested, I cn post sm paradoxes regarding time travel !

    wow thnx machan, post u r ideas, then we can share our knowledge........
    thnx bro.
     

    upulcranga

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    thnx 4 ur coperation, here z a paradox

    The Grand Father Paradox !

    The paradox is this: If u cn trvl time, then u go n kill ur grnd father b4 he meets ur grnny !, so u couldnt hv existed, n then again , hw could u hv cm n killed ur grnd fthr, if u dsnt exist ?, bt if u dsnt exist, u cnt time travel n kill ur grnd fthr, n tht means u cn exist since ur grnd fthr z alive !, thus it is making itz own negations !
     
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