To Elakiri members who gets angry,...

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This is especially for the members
who wants other members are banned
Just because latter have doubts about their beliefs.

Read on
and read it again if you get angry.


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Osho said....

"You can cut off my head -- that is not an argument. That does not mean that I am wrong and you are right. In fact, cutting off my head simply proves that you were incapable of arguing your point. It is always the weak who become angry. It is always the weak who want to convert you at the point of a sword.

Only an impotent intellect can be afraid of doubt; otherwise doubt is a challenge, an opportunity to enquire. "

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KAUDA ME OSHO




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Biography Osho - Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh

Early Life - Osho

Osho or Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh was born in 1931 in Central India. He was a charismatic and gifted speaker who became the leader of a worldwide new spiritual movement. It is said that at the age of 21 he attained enlightenment or Samadhi. At the time he was studying philosophy at the University of Saugar. On receiving a masters degree he taught philosophy at the University of Jabalpur for nine years.
As well as teaching philosophy he also began to attract disciples to follow his own eclectic mix of philosophy and religion. In 1966 he decided to leave his teaching post and give full attention to his role as spiritual Master. In 1974 he moved with his disciples to Pune, India. Here he established a new ashram in a comfortable setting of 6 acres. In 1980 he was attacked by a Hindu fundamentalist who disagreed with Osho’s unconventional stance on religion and spirituality. It is said that due to police incompetence the assailant was never convicted.
Due to failing health Osho decided to leave India for America where he would be able to receive better medical treatment. His disciples bought a large plot of land near Antelope, Oregon. Here they wished to build a large ashram and other buildings. There was often friction between the local townspeople and the ashramites. There was a clash of cultures and the local townspeople felt threatened by the influx of devotees. Because of this many building permits were denied. This led to ashramites trying to get elected directly to the town council. There were also allegations made that followers of Osho were involved in illegal activities such as spreading salmonella in a local restaurant. More seriously there were allegations of Murder made against some followers of Osho. Two were eventually convicted of the murder of Charles Turner who had tried to close the ranch.
In 1987 Osho became fearful of investigation by the authorities so he decided to leave the compound in Oregon and went to South Carolina. Here he fell foul of US immigration law. He had arranged false marriages and other violations of immigration laws. He was given a suspended sentence on the condition that he leave the country. Therefore he reluctantly decided to leave for Puna in India. It was at this time that he decided to change his name from Rajneesh to Osho. This is said to be a Japanese word for “Master”, although others say Osho comes from the term “oceanic experience” Osho died in 1990, his birth certificate gave a reason of heart failure. Although some followers alleged poisoning by the CBI, although these allegations had little evidence to support them.
Philosophy and Beliefs of Osho

Osho was born into a Jain family. He though never believed in any one religion but combined elements of many religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism and Christianity. However he also added new types of meditation practise. His philosophy was a type of Monism that God was in everything. All human beings were in essence divine, it was just that there were different manifestations of that divinity. He introduced a new type of meditation that involved letting go of all attachments to the past and future and ego.
If a seeker could attain a consciousness where there was "no past, no future, no attachment, no mind, no ego, no self.” Then he would attain enlightenment. One different practise he advocated was to practise physical exercise just before meditation. Unlike many Indian gurus Osho taught that sex was not an obstacle to spiritual progress. Although many of his disciples led fairly simple and frugal lifestyles Osho was well known for his love of cars. It is said he amassed over 20 Rolls Royces.
It is estimated over 50,000 westerners spent time seeking enlightenment with the Guru. At its peak there were over 200,000 members world wide, although this dropped off after the scandals of the late 1980s. Osho never wised to appoint a successor but he did appoint 21 followers to administer the Osho foundation which continues to provide an outlet for the dissemination of his teaching.
Resources on Osho

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Osho
Osho
("Rajneesh" Chandra Mohan Jain,
रजनीश चन्द्र मोहन जैन) Born 11 December 1931
Kuchwada, India Died 19 January 1990 (aged 58)
Pune, India Nationality Indian Movement Jivan Jagruti Andolan; Neo-sannyas Works From Sex to Superconsciousness
My Way, the Way of the White Clouds
The Book of Secrets Influenced by Gautam Buddha
Mahavira
G. I. Gurdjieff Influenced Peter Sloterdijk "Rajneesh" Chandra Mohan Jain (Hindi: रजनीश चन्द्र मोहन जैन) (December 11, 1931 – January 19, 1990), also known as Acharya Rajneesh from the 1960s onwards, calling himself Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh during the 1970s and 1980s and taking the name Osho in 1989, was an Indian mystic and spiritual teacher.
A professor of philosophy, he travelled throughout India in the 1960s as a public speaker, raising controversy by speaking against socialism, Mahatma Gandhi, and institutionalised religion. He advocated a more open attitude towards sexuality, a stance that earned him the sobriquet "sex guru" in the Indian and later the international press.[1] In 1970, he settled for a while in Mumbai (Bombay). He began initiating disciples (known as neo-sannyasins) and took on the role of a spiritual teacher. In his discourses, he reinterpreted writings of religious traditions, mystics and philosophers from around the world. Moving to Pune (Poona) in 1974, he established an ashram that attracted increasing numbers of Westerners. The ashram offered therapies derived from the Human Potential Movement to its Western audience and made news in India and abroad, chiefly because of its permissive climate and Osho's provocative lectures. By the end of the 1970s, there were mounting tensions with the Indian government and the surrounding society.
In 1981, Osho relocated to the United States, and his followers established an intentional community, later known as Rajneeshpuram, in the state of Oregon. Within a year, the leadership of the commune became embroiled in a conflict with local residents, primarily over land use, which was marked by bitter hostility on both sides. In this period Osho attracted notoriety for his large collection of Rolls-Royce motorcars. The Oregon commune collapsed in 1985, when Osho revealed that the commune leadership had committed a number of serious crimes, including a bioterror attack on the citizens of The Dalles. Shortly after, Osho was arrested and charged with immigration violations. He was deported from the United States in accordance with a plea bargain.[2][3][4] Following an enforced world tour during which twenty-one countries denied him entry, Osho returned to Pune, where he died in 1990. His ashram is today known as the Osho International Meditation Resort.
Osho's syncretic teachings emphasise the importance of meditation, awareness, love, celebration, creativity and humour – qualities that he viewed as being suppressed by adherence to static belief systems, religious tradition and socialisation. His teachings have had a notable impact on Western New Age thought,[5][6] and their popularity has increased markedly since his death.[7][8]
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    how come? i dont see any link between cutting da head and the argument y he compare those to prove da anger is week? i dont know i dont really understand dis
     
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    One who is angry is weak.

    funkoluwa said:
    how come? i dont see any link between cutting da head and the argument y he compare those to prove da anger is week? i dont know i dont really understand dis

    It may not be always cutting the head.
    Many members who can't argue to a point try to get other members banned...
    People who could not argue with Lasantha killed him.
    It is basically the same...
    Even Bruce Lee had said "One who is angry is weak." When one is angry his mind is cluttered... he is actually temporarily mad. He can't think properly. He always make mistakes which he may repent later.
    A true story..
    A man has called his dog.."injuh, injuh,"
    Another man got angry thinking that he was called so, came with a club and killed the first man. He didn't have the clarity of the mind even to ask.
    Anger gives energy but put the mind off... like a fast car without the steering wheel working.
     

    madurax86

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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    It may not be always cutting the head.
    Many members who can't argue to a point try to get other members banned...
    People who could not argue with Lasantha killed him.
    It is basically the same...
    Even Bruce Lee had said "One who is angry is weak." When one is angry his mind is cluttered... he is actually temporarily mad. He can't think properly. He always make mistakes which he may repent later.
    A true story..
    A man has called his dog.."injuh, injuh,"
    Another man got angry thinking that he was called so
    , came with a club and killed the first man. He didn't have the clarity of the mind even to ask.
    Anger gives energy but put the mind off... like a fast car without the steering wheel working.

    1. Where is the actual proof that someone who killed lasantha did it because he cant argue with him and win?
    2. Bruce Lee screams the hell out when he is getting ready to fight, do you ever think that he is fighting with "maitthriya" hes trying to get angry with the other person first to start the fight...anger when reached its limit should be limited forcibly if not the anger will make you lose, Bruce Lee talked about this NOT true mithriya so you should think twice when quoting from a fighter about anger, if their wasnt anger they dont want to fight either; dont take it as defensive fighting theres nothing called defesive fighting and non defensive fighting, they are trying kill the opponent or disable him/her with force that should be done with controlled anger ...even though a parent beats a child its done with anger used as a starting point then they control it ...this is NOT Buddhism or the Buddha taught ok smart guy? first learn something properly if you are going to talk about it we are open for argument and I must say that MOST of EK ppl are open to argument they'd approve anything right but not gimmicks!
    3. Typical mental case or he might have been a dog himself on his last life :P its not anger that killed the other person its the sheer dumbness of the man who replied to the man shouting "injhu, injhu" ...dude if you shout to me "injhu, injhu" and if i got really angry with u....would i kill you???? this is nonsense garadi komath man marane na :P :) utter nonsense like ur all other posts

    and about Oshoo, People like this come and go but they never do anything to be remembered they are just critics of their own land, and will who just blabber without a reason he dont need to say that science is proven and all other shit ppl know that..he doesnt need to say that meditation is good ...duh, and about that some religions "attacked" scientists PPL KNOW THAT too. And what does he say about Buddhism? hes trying to jam up all the religions and make a supa religion :P in his weirdo dreams :P lmao dont make me laugh and please tell me what does he drops from Buddhism ..LMAO
     
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    madurax86 said:
    1. Where is the actual proof that someone who killed lasantha did it because he cant argue with him and win?
    2. Bruce Lee screams the hell out when he is getting ready to fight, do you ever think that he is fighting with "maitthriya" hes trying to get angry with the other person first to start the fight...anger when reached its limit should be limited forcibly if not the anger will make you lose, Bruce Lee talked about this NOT true mithriya so you should think twice when quoting from a fighter about anger, if their wasnt anger they dont want to fight either; dont take it as defensive fighting theres nothing called defesive fighting and non defensive fighting, they are trying kill the opponent or disable him/her with force that should be done with controlled anger ...even though a parent beats a child its done with anger used as a starting point then they control it ...this is NOT Buddhism or the Buddha taught ok smart guy? first learn something properly if you are going to talk about it we are open for argument and I must say that MOST of EK ppl are open to argument they'd approve anything right but not gimmicks!
    3. Typical mental case or he might have been a dog himself on his last life :P its not anger that killed the other person its the sheer dumbness of the man who replied to the man shouting "injhu, injhu" ...dude if you shout to me "injhu, injhu" and if i got really angry with u....would i kill you???? this is nonsense garadi komath man marane na :P :) utter nonsense like ur all other posts

    and about Oshoo, People like this come and go but they never do anything to be remembered they are just critics of their own land, and will who just blabber without a reason he dont need to say that science is proven and all other shit ppl know that..he doesnt need to say that meditation is good ...duh, and about that some religions "attacked" scientists PPL KNOW THAT too. And what does he say about Buddhism? hes trying to jam up all the religions and make a supa religion :P in his weirdo dreams :P lmao dont make me laugh and please tell me what does he drops from Buddhism ..LMAO

    I can't prove that a person who has enough intelligence to argue will not take a gun and kill somebody.. But that is my own understanding. Because it is so stupid to get a gun and kill when he can achieve it in a much easier way.
    A dog wouldn't bite if he could think and talk.

    Bruce Lee says...
    "Do not be tense, just be ready, not thinking but not dreaming, not being set but being flexible. It is being "wholly" and quietly alive, aware and alert, ready for whatever may come."
    Is this a state of anger he explains.?

    I agree with you about "controlled anger ...even though a parent beats a child its done with anger used as a starting point then they control it "
    Then it is only adrenalin in the blood and mind is not cluttered with it and dwesha or anger is not there. That is why Buddha says.. "Chetana makes the Karma"
     
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    sri_lion said:
    Oh! this is the guy who said F*CK is the most versatile word in the English language!! :lol::lol::lol: That was damn funny.. seriously!! :lol::lol:

    Can you post his article?:)
    Of all the thousands of topics, you have read at least one you are interested.
    :lol: