USA vs CHINA if they start a war WHO will win?

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coolgayathra said:
but bro
they also have many dangerous fighter aircrafts
they have huge man power

Compare CHINA's best Aircraft Fighter against a F-22 Raptor, then you'll see the difference, and they have 100+ of them alone+ others like F-16 and what not :rolleyes:..

Do some research you'll find out, you wont even pick up the DAMN thing on your radar and it sees you long long long before you see him, in IRAQ war Sadaam's pilots simply refused to get in the cockpits! :lol::lol:

Man power wise yes, its a challenge but man power is effective on ground, what US may lack in man power they will make up for it from their technology!
 

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    sri_lion said:
    Compare CHINA's best Aircraft Fighter against a F-22 Raptor, then you'll see the difference, and they have 100+ of them alone+ others like F-16 and what not :rolleyes:..

    Do some research you'll find out, you wont even pick up the DAMN thing on your radar and it sees you long long long before you see him, in IRAQ war Sadaam's pilots simply refused to get in the cockpits! :lol::lol:

    Man power wise yes, its a challenge but man power is effective on ground, what US may lack in man power they will make up for it from their technology!
    the stealth fighters and bombers are the catalyst. China knows USA has this capability so they'll launch the ICBMs first and it'll be the roaches who wins after the mushroom clouds clear up at the end! :lol:
     

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    sri_lion said:
    Compare CHINA's best Aircraft Fighter against a F-22 Raptor, then you'll see the difference, and they have 100+ of them alone+ others like F-16 and what not :rolleyes:..

    Do some research you'll find out, you wont even pick up the DAMN thing on your radar and it sees you long long long before you see him, in IRAQ war Sadaam's pilots simply refused to get in the cockpits! :lol::lol:

    Man power wise yes, its a challenge but man power is effective on ground, what US may lack in man power they will make up for it from their technology!

    yes
    i agree
    bro
    but china has some dammned dangerous fighters like this







    [edit] Bombers

    DesignationManufacturerRemarksH-5HarbinCopy of Il-28, retiredH-6Xi'anCopy of Tu-16Xian JH-7Xi'anFighter-bomberSH-5HarbinAmphibious bomber, production stopped
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    [edit] Fighter aircraft

    DesignationManufacturerRemarksMiG-9Mikoyan-GurevichPurchased from the Soviet Union, no longer in productionMiG-15Shenyang/Mikoyan-GurevichPurchased from the Soviet Union and licenced built in China, no longer in productionJ-5ShenyangChinese variant of Mig-17, no longer in productionJ-6ShenyangChinese variant of Mig-19, no longer in productionJ-7ChengduChinese variant of Mig-21J-8ShenyangInterceptor/FighterJ-9ChengduCancelled single-engine fighter projectJ-10ChengduMulti-role medium-weight fighterJ-11ShenyangChinese variant of Su-27J-12NanchangCancelled light-weight single-engine fighter projectJ-13ShenyangCancelled light-weight single-engine fighter projectFC-1ChengduMulti-role light-weight fighter, jointly developed by Chengdu and PAC, PakistanJ-XXChengdu5th generation stealth fighter in development, contract awarded to Chengdu in 2007
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    DesignationManufacturerRemarksCJ-5NanchangCopy of Yak-18, retiredCJ-6NanchangBasic propeller trainerJJ-1ShenyangBasic jet trainer, cancelledJJ-5ShenyangTrainer version of J-5JJ-6ShenyangTrainer version of J-6JJ-7GuizhouTrainer version of J-7JL-8HongduBasic jet trainer/attackerJL-9GuizhouUpgrade version of JJ-7YJ-7Xi'an Aircraft Industry CorporationBomber-trainer, based on Y-7Yak-152KHongdu/YakolevJointly developed by China and RussiaL-15HongduAdvanced jet trainer/attacker
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    [edit] Ground attack aircraft

    DesignationManufacturerRemarksQ-5NanchangDeveloped based on Mig-19Q-6NanchangCancelled; based on Su-24
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    [edit] Transport aircraft

    DesignationManufacturerRemarksY-5ShijiazhuangCopy of An-2Y-6Il-14Y-7Xi'anCopy of An-24Y-8ShaanxiCopy of An-12Y-9ShaanxiMulti-purpose transport, in development and variant of the Y-8 (as Y-8X)Y-10ShanghaiBoeing 707 class airliner, cancelledY-11Harbin7 seats utility aircraftY-12Harbin17 seats utility aircraftMA-60Xi'an60 seats turboprop-powered airliner, upgrade version of Y-7MA-600Xi'an60 seats turboprop-powered airliner, upgrade version of MA-60MA700Xi'an70-to-80 seats turboprop-powered airliner, to be introduced in 2009ARJ-21ACAC70-90 seats advanced regional jet airliner, in development
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    [edit] Helicopters

    DesignationManufacturerRemarksZ-5HarbinCopy of Mi-4, retiredZ-6Cancelled and based on Mi-8; designation also used on a variant of the Z-5 with a Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6T-6 "Twin Pac" turboshaft engineZ-7ChangheCancelledZ-8ChangheCopy of SA321Ja Super FrelonZ-9HarbinCopy of Eurocopter DauphinCAIC WZ-10ChangheAttack helicopterZ-11ChangheLight utility helicopterZ-12Medium military transport helicopter developmentEC-120HarbinCooperative design with EurocopterZ-15/EC-175Harbin6,000kg-class medium utility helicopter jointly developed by Harbin and EurocopterZ-XHarbin5,000 to 5,500kg twin-engined light helicopter development, possibly derived from Z-9
     

    kosandpol

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    All of those aircraft are worthless when compared with the stealth fighers and bombers the USA has.
     

    sri_lion

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    coolgayathra said:
    yes
    i agree
    bro
    but china has some dammned dangerous fighters like this

    Well... dangerous is a relative term bro, CHINA maybe dangerous to INDIA with all that equipment but not to US!

    True what you posted, they do have stuff... but do the same research into what's available in US armed forces too, you only seem to have looked at Chinese army... post a comparison then we can see!

    Just saying.. China has this, China has that doesn't cut it!! You need to dig deep into more detail.. like.. if China has this, what US has to counter that... you need to look from that angle, and if you see that way then you'll see how superior US is!

    You tell me CHINA has got carriers, yes! they do!

    But according to the available sources CHINA has only 3 carriers, where as US navy has 10 carriers in Nimitz class alone, do some fact finding and get to know what is a Nimitz class carrier and how many fighter jets they can carry and about their armaments they have

    Then like you said CHINA has got bombers, Yes! they do!

    But US has got stealth bombers (there you go, one step ahead), those stealth bombers does not even have their own defense mechanisms.. why? because they are so confident that it is impossible to detect them in the first place to get closer to a fight! :lol:

    So you see.... compare and contrast! ;)
     
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    The talk is that China will overtake US as the producer of most advanced fighter aircraft by 2020.

    But as of now....

    Conventional War - China has a better chance of winning

    Nuclear War - US is way ahead of china with 27000 war heads to chinas 400 odd
     

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    sri_lion said:
    Well... dangerous is a relative term bro, CHINA maybe dangerous to INDIA with all that equipment but not to US!

    True what you posted, they do have stuff... but do the same research into what's available in US armed forces too, you only seem to have looked at Chinese army... post a comparison then we can see!

    Just saying.. China has this, China has that doesn't cut it!! You need to dig deep into more detail.. like.. if China has this, what US has to counter that... you need to look from that angle, and if you see that way you'll how superior US is!

    You tell me CHINA has got carriers, yes! they do!

    But according to the available sources CHINA has only 3 carriers, where as US navy has 10 carriers in Nimitz class alone, do some fact finding and get to know what is a Nimitz class carrier and how many fighters they carry and about their armaments and all

    Then like you said CHINA has got bombers, Yes! they do!

    But US has got stealth bombers (there you go, one step ahead), those stealth bombers does not even have their own defense mechanisms.. why? because they are so confident that is impossible to detect them in the first place to get closer to a fight! :lol:

    So you see.... compare and contrast! ;)

    bro look
    a chinses aircftft
    in the list of deadliest planes

     

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    coolgayathra said:
    i dont think they are worthless
    ofcourse US has more powerfull ones
    but if you really want
    wacth this

    there is a chinses aircraft in the worlds most deadliest fughters list
    Dude do you know what a stealth fighter or a stealth bomber is ? :confused:
    how can you say conventional fighters are worlds deadliest when compared with stealth fighters ??
     

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    kosandpol said:
    Dude do you know what a stealth fighter or a stealth bomber is ? :confused:
    how can you say conventional fighters are worlds deadliest when compared with stealth fighters ??
    yes i know what stealth is
    china has some of those
    but USa has ofcirse more powerfull ..
    but china has some pretty dangerous weapons..



    J-XX STEALTHY FIGHTER AIRCRAFT Advertise on this site!
    According to the reports of the Jane's Defence Weekly, China has already launched its next generation stealthy fighter aircraft programme, and Shenyang Aircraft Industry Co. (SAC) has been selected to head research and development of a new fighter for the PLA Air Force (PLAAF).
    PROGRAMME
    According to the report from Jane's, development of the subsystems including the engine and weapon suite for the next generation fighter, which was codenamed by the Western intelligence as J-XX, has been underway for some time. Images of the concepts show a twin-engine aircraft sharing some design traits with Lockheed Martin's stealthy F/A-22 "Raptor" multirole fighter such as the internal carriage of its weapons.
    Not too much public information about the programme is available at the moment. The aircraft, which could be designated as J-13 or J-14, is still going through initial concept work, the same stage as the USAF Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF) programme in the early 1980s, which later led to the F/A-22 Raptor. Sources within China's confirmed that the SAC is looking at a twin-engine, single-seat, single vertical tale fin design, but other design proposals has yet been ruled out.
    As China has developed close ties with Russia's aerospace industry and has license produced many planes of formal Soviet designs, it can be predicted that the J-XX would include some, if not many Russian technologies and designs. China has been offered a 'joint development and production' of a new fifth-generation fighter by Russia -LFI. Russia has been trying to sell this concept both to China and India for some time, but neither of them has committed fully yet. According to Russian resources, the LFI will be able to counter U.S. second fifth-generation Joint Strike Fighter (JSF).
    Stealth and thrust vectoring are two must-have features in all aircraft being designed in the 21st century. If is not clear that how much progress Chinese designers have made in these areas, and Chinese aircraft industry may have to take Western/Israeli/Russian helps to make the J-XX truly fouth-generation (or fifth-generation using the Russian standards). Once introduced, the J-12's immediate rival will be U.S. F/A-22, JSF and India's MCA (Medium Combat Aircraft). Date Last Updated: 10 July 05

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    kosandpol said:
    Dude do you know what a stealth fighter or a stealth bomber is ? :confused:
    how can you say conventional fighters are worlds deadliest when compared with stealth fighters ??
    Ok do you know what the Stealth means?
     

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    coolgayathra said:
    raptor
    but :P :rofl:
    chinese plane was on the list
    planes whic are on that list have small differences in perforemance bro

    Oh! No dude :lol:

    Raptor is the only stealth fighter, the rest of those 9 on the list are NOT! :lol:

    How can you engage an enemy that dont see? :lol: and by the time you see them its already too late! :lol: