USA vs CHINA if they start a war WHO will win?

kosandpol

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    coolgayathra said:
    yes i know what stealth is
    china has some of those
    but USa has ofcirse more powerfull ..
    but china has some pretty dangerous weapons..



    J-XX STEALTHY FIGHTER AIRCRAFT

    Read the image you've posted. That plane is the mock up. Not even a real plane. By the time they build a flyable stealth aircraft USA will be rolling out 3rd generation stealth aircraft.
     

    uhox

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    100% USA will win
    becoz

    1-they have the strategical nuclear submarines
    2-their troops are stationed all over the world (diago garcia/ malaysia/ mid asia plus entire pacific)

    china has much man power
    but modern war play with technology and strategical maneurability ;)
     

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    coolgayathra said:
    no way
    thye are making the 5th generation fighters
    what about the land power of china
    nearly 2 million soldeiers?
    They are making 5th generation conventional fighters and working on making first generation of stealth fighters.
    USA already has second generation stealth aircraft (the Raptor).

    The Land power of china doesnt matter a lot unless there is a land based war. In a USA vs China war what are the land forces suppose to do ? build a bridge across the Atlantic ? China cant fly troops to USA due to USA's air superiority (not to mention the unpractical cost of flying 2 million soldiers and mechanized forces weaponry) and they certainly cant ship them to USA due to USA's naval superiority.
     

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    coolgayathra said:
    machan
    china aslo have nuclera submarines
    AFAIK, they have 2. Unless I'm mistaken USA has over 20 Nuclear warhead subs. No idea as to how many nuclear subs they have. must be over 50.
     

    sri_lion

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    uhox said:
    100% USA will win
    becoz

    1-they have the strategical nuclear submarines
    2-their troops are stationed all over the world (diago garcia/ malaysia/ mid asia plus entire pacific)

    china has much man power
    but modern war play with technology and strategical maneurability ;)

    Exactly! and think about the strategic importance of Hawaii :shocked: which is already US's backyard and a perfect base to attack China, right in the middle of US and CHINA :lol::lol:

    US can use a base in Hawaii and launch bombing raids on CHINA 24/7 with those B2's
     

    coolgayathra

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    kosandpol said:
    They are making 5th generation conventional fighters and working on making first generation of stealth fighters.
    USA already has second generation stealth aircraft (the Raptor).

    The Land power of china doesnt matter a lot unless there is a land based war. In a USA vs China war what are the land forces suppose to do ? build a bridge across the Atlantic ? China cant fly troops to USA due to USA's air superiority (not to mention the unpractical cost of flying 2 million soldiers and mechanized forces weaponry) and they certainly cant ship them to USA due to USA's naval superiority.
    they can go by ships
    or by submarines
    china has the biggest navy in the world
     

    coolgayathra

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    kosandpol said:
    AFAIK, they have 2. Unless I'm mistaken USA has over 20 Nuclear warhead subs. No idea as to how many nuclear subs they have. must be over 50.
    no way
    they have many more

    Jul 05
    New Chinese Ballistic Missile Submarine Spotted





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    A new satellite image appears to have captured China’s new ballistic missile submarine. Coordinates: 38°49′4.40″N, 121°29′39.82″E.

    A commercial satellite image appears to have captured China’s new nuclear ballistic missile submarine. The new class, known as the Jin-class or Type 094, is expected to replace the unsuccessful Xia-class (Type 092) of a single boat built in the early 1980s.
    The new submarine was photographed by the commercial Quickbird satellite in late 2006 and the image is freely available on the Google Earth web site.

    A Comparison of SSBN Dimensions
    Two satellite images are now available (see figure below) that clearly show two missile submarines with different dimensions. One image from 2005 shows what is believed to be the Xia-class (Type 092) SSBN in drydock at the Jianggezhuang Submarine Base approximately 14 miles east of Qingdao. The submarine is approximately 390 feet (120 meters) long of which the missile compartment makes up roughly 80 feet (25 meters). Twelve missile launch tubes are clearly visible.
    The second image from late 2006 shows what appears to be the new Jin-class (Type 094) SSBN moored at the Xiaopingdao Submarine Base south of Dalian, approximately 193 miles north of Qingdao. The Jin-class appears to be approximately 35 feet (10 meters) longer than the Xia-class SSBN, primarily due to an extended mid-section of approximately 115 feet (35 meters) that houses the missile launch tubes and part of the reactor compartment.

    Xia- and Jin-Class SSBN Comparison

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    These two commercial satellite images of the old Xia-class SSBN (top) and the new Jin-class SSBN show the different major compartments. The Jin-class appears to be approximately 35 feet (10 meters) longer with an extended missile compartment. Both images view the submarines from a “eye-altitude” of approximately 500 feet (152 meters).

    The extended missile compartment of the Jin-class seems seems intended to accommodate the Julang-2 sea-launched ballistic missile, which is larger than the Julang-1 deployed on the Xia-class. Part of the extension may also be related to the size of the reactor compartment. The U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence estimated in 2004 that the Jin-class, like the Xia-class, will have 12 missiles launch tubes (see figure below). Other non-governmental sources frequently claim the submarine will have 16 tubes. The satellite image is not of high enough resolution to show the hatches to the missile launch tubes.

    Estimated Jin-Class SSBN Layout

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    The U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence estimated in 2004 (bottom) that the Jin-class SSBN would have 12 missiles.

    The U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence estimated in December 2006 that China might build five Jin-class SSBNs. The estimate has been widely cited by non-governmental institutes and some news media as a fact, but the Pentagon’s annual report on China’s military forces from May 2007 did not repeat the estimate.
    Background: Chinese Nuclear Forces and US Nuclear War Planning | Pentagon Report Ignores Five SSBN Projection



















    In what will be a significant challenge to US Navy dominance and to countries ringing the South China Sea, one photograph shows China’s latest 094 nuclear submarine at the base just a few hundred miles from its neighbours.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...North-Korea-expels-UN-nuclear-inspectors.html


    Other images show numerous warships moored to long jettys and a network of underground tunnels at the Sanya base on the southern tip of Hainan island.
    Of even greater concern to the Pentagon are massive tunnel entrances, estimated to be 60ft high, built into hillsides around the base. Sources fear they could lead to caverns capable of hiding up to 20 nuclear submarines from spy satellites.
    The US Department of Defence has estimated that China will have five 094 nuclear submarines operational by 2010 with each capable of carrying 12 JL-2 nuclear missiles.
    The images were obtained by Janes Intelligence Review after the periodical was given access to imagery from the commercial satellite company DigitalGlobe.
    Analysts for the respected military magazine suggest that the base could be used for "expeditionary as well as defensive operations" and would allow the submarines to "break out to launch locations closer to the US".
    It would now be "difficult to ignore" that China was building a major naval base where it could house its nuclear forces and increase it "strategic capability considerably further afield".
    The development so close to the sea lanes vital to Asian economies "can only cause concern far beyond these straits".
    Military analysts believe that China’s substantial build up of its forces is gaining pace put has remained hidden from the world in the build-up to the Olympics.
    China has diverted much of its resources from the huge Peoples Liberation Army to the navy, air force and missile development.
    An old Russian aircraft carrier, bought by Beijing for "leisure activities" has been picked over by naval architects who hope to "reverse engineer" the ship.
    Within the next five to 10 years the People's Liberation Navy is expected to build up to six carriers which will also coincide with the Royal Navy’s construction of two major carriers.
    The location of the base off Hainan will also give the submarines access to very deep water exceeding 5,000 metres within a few miles, making them even harder to detect.
     
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    coolgayathra said:
    but maybe they have those planes
    china is a nation whic has hidden so many secrets.
    they may have unbelivvable weapons
    anyway i agree that USA is the most poerfull,interms of waepons and fighters

    but man power is ital also

    Yes bro, on the same account do you think US would spit out everything they do? they also might be having god-knows-what :lol: