What do Muslims think about Buddha?

[saharaz]

Saharaz I would like to ask you another question

I like Lord Buddha's teaching very much and I haven't seen anyhting wrong in his phylosophy and also his teaching is not agaist us except the Rejection of Almighty God or Creator (If he is All knowing I wonder why he didn't see the one who behind this creation)

So if Buddist person die without knowing his Creator but he has done good merits wht wil happen to him after he die?

Rebirth (will God give him a second chance ? ) Rejection ( can not go to heaven) or wht?

You see that bold part? that's exactly what Lord-Buddha said..

And in detial Lord Buddha said you are not answerable to anyone but you!

The KEYWORD in Buddhism is "OWNERSHIP".. you take ownership of what you do!

I still cannot understand the concept of Islam being so harsh on people that belongs to other faiths on the so called "Judgement day"

There are lot of Good People out there belong to other faiths.. what will happen to them? When OSAMA goes to Heaven will Mother Theresa goes to HELL?

Is that justice by Allah?

same questions in different forms ........ if you don't understand tell me i'll try to explain more clearly inshallah i hope this will answer your questions.

According to Islamic teachings, any person who has been offered a true and complete understanding of Islam and knowingly rejects it, then
dies without repenting, is destined for hell.

You will note that the operative phrases here are “offered a true and complete understanding of Islam” and “knowingly rejects it”. This suggests that one must first HAVE an opportunity to embrace Islam and THEN, upon his or her own informed understanding, free will, and free choice refuse to embrace it before that person is at risk of condemnation on this basis.

The Qu’ran says:

Surely, those who believe [in Islam], those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who believes in GOD, and believes in the Last Day, and leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

Al Quran [2:62]​

3 requirements

who believe in one GOD
believe in last day (day of judgement)
leads a righteous life

Al Quran does not say that a terrorist muslim will go to paradise and righteous non muslim will go to hell.
my advice is fullfill above 3 requirement according to Al Quran.

In the Qu’ran (An-Nisaa' 4:48)

the scripture says that Allah forgives “whom he pleaseth”, and herein (when taken with both Surah Al-Baqarah verse 62, and Surah al-Ma'ida verse 69) also lies the hope that those who are circumstantially ignorant to Islam will be saved.

Allah knows best

anyone don't understand please let me know no offence

 

[fawzar]

hi, Y2K,
All are same or Different ? No,
Do you why? Quran Says There is no one but Allah. its mean "Allah = God = who is the creator" Budhdha is not a creator, but he is different also not messenger.
Jesus is a messenger but no god or god's son. Jesus (SAW) will come soon actually he is alive.

 

[sri_lion]

same questions in different forms ........ if you don't understand tell me i'll try to explain more clearly inshallah i hope this will answer your questions.

According to Islamic teachings, any person who has been offered a true and complete understanding of Islam and knowingly rejects it, then
dies without repenting, is destined for hell.

You will note that the operative phrases here are “offered a true and complete understanding of Islam” and “knowingly rejects it”. This suggests that one must first HAVE an opportunity to embrace Islam and THEN, upon his or her own informed understanding, free will, and free choice refuse to embrace it before that person is at risk of condemnation on this basis.

The Qu’ran says:

Surely, those who believe [in Islam], those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who believes in GOD, and believes in the Last Day, and leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

Al Quran [2:62]​

3 requirements

who believe in one GOD
believe in last day (day of judgement)
leads a righteous life

Al Quran does not say that a terrorist muslim will go to paradise and righteous non muslim will go to hell.
my advice is fullfill above 3 requirement according to Al Quran.

In the Qu’ran (An-Nisaa' 4:48)

the scripture says that Allah forgives “whom he pleaseth”, and herein (when taken with both Surah Al-Baqarah verse 62, and Surah al-Ma'ida verse 69) also lies the hope that those who are circumstantially ignorant to Islam will be saved.

Allah knows best

anyone don't understand please let me know no offence

So can I summarize your answer this way?

If I am offered to learn Islam and I reject = I will still burn in HELL (Regardless of my good deeds)

I understand Islam and even KILL for Islam = I will END up in heaven

3 requirements

who believe in one GOD
believe in last day (day of judgement)
leads a righteous life

Who believes in GOD = Believes in His word = Al-Q'ran

Al Q'ran gives permission for HOLY WAR = Terrorizing not only culprits you are trying to get rid of.. all the other innocent people too!

So how does this stack up?

So can I say.. according to Q'ran, you have to do a HOLY WAR if necessary that would risk many other innocent people's lives.. So is this the righteous life you are talking about ?

Please.. clarify this and then we move the discussion from there!

 

[saharaz]

hi, Y2K,
Jesus is a messenger but no god or god's son. Jesus (SAW) will come soon actually he is alive.

 

[sri_lion]

hi, Y2K,
All are same or Different ? No,
Do you why? Quran Says There is no one but Allah. its mean "Allah = God = who is the creator" Budhdha is not a creator, but he is different also not messenger.
Jesus is a messenger but no god or god's son. Jesus (SAW) will come soon actually he is alive.

From what I have observed from many many posts about Islam everywhere on the NET, Islam trying to draw a strong connection to Christianity.. most probably this is because beside any other reason it is easy for Islam to co-relate to Chirtianity because both believes in some form of GOD!

So I say your GOD is my GOD.. well... who can prove it is NOT

You cannot make such connection to Buddhism because Buddhism is in a totally different league of its own!!

Believe it or NOT.. THAT'S THE TRUTH!

 

[Y2K]

Jesus said: If those who lead you say unto you: Behold, the Kingdom is in heaven, then the birds of the heavens will be before you. If they say unto you: It is in the sea, then the fish will be before you. But the Kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then shall you be known, and you shall know that you are the sons of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty.

 

[Y2K]

So I say your GOD is my GOD.. well... who can prove it is NOT : Well yeah if you Believe in God he is with you (I'll tell you the truth Kindom of heaven is within you ):confused:



You cannot make such connection to Buddhism because Buddhism is in a totally different league of its own!!

Believe it or NOT.. THAT'S THE TRUTH!

Not that very different my friend

 

[Y2K]

Jesus said: If those who lead you say unto you: Behold, the Kingdom is in heaven, then the birds of the heavens will be before you. If they say unto you: It is in the sea, then the fish will be before you. But the Kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then shall you be known, and you shall know that you are the sons of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty.

Elucidation::
Do not believe the words of your spiritual leaders. They tell you heaven is the reward and hell is the punishment after death. The true hell is the world of the dead, the unconscious, the sleeping here on earth. Heaven is the state of the awakened. When you know yourself, you feel a part of the entire creation and all
people. When "Jesus" talks of the Kingdom and the Father, he tries to catch the unspeakable in a metaphor. About that which you cannot speak, you must pass over in silence. It is useless to talk of the unspeakable goal; it is enough to show the way. If you do not know yourself, you lead a miserable life; perhaps rich to the
world, but poor for your Self.

 

[Y2K]

hi, Y2K,
All are same or Different ? No,
Do you why? Quran Says There is no one but Allah. its mean "Allah = God = who is the creator" Budhdha is not a creator, but he is different also not messenger.
Jesus is a messenger but no god or god's son. Jesus (SAW) will come soon actually he is alive.

WEll my dear friend shall i ask you a question?

Many people claims that God has given them a message in private or in a Dream , Yesterday when i listen to Buddist Monk speach he said why God say it secretly to selected person why he couldnt tell it to the whole world at once ?

Well if you think carefully there is nothing wrong with his arguement , isn't is?

 

[Y2K]

Here is another arguement



A Perfect Creator Cannot Exist
1. If God exists, then he is perfect.

1. If God exists, then he is the creator of the universe.

1. If a being is perfect, then whatever he creates must be perfect.

1. But the universe is not perfect.

1. Therefore, it is impossible for a perfect being to be the creator of the universe.

1. Hence, it is impossible for God to exist.

 

[Y2K]

The Paradox of Omnipotence
1. Either God can create a stone that he cannot lift, or he cannot create a stone that he cannot lift.

1. If God can create a stone that he cannot lift, then he is not omnipotent.

1. If God cannot create a stone that he cannot lift, then he is not omnipotent.

1. Therefore god is not omnipotent.

 

[Y2K]

CONCEPT OF GOD



This is how imagination and humanism eventually fused together to become religion. Some people say that it is difficult to believe that any god created religion.
Perhaps we could say that man created religion and later introduced the concept of a god into religion. An American philosopher, Prof. Whitehead, once stated that originally man created god and later god created man. What he meant was that the concept of god was created by man and later this concept was transformed into divinity.

On the other hand, a French philosopher, Anatole France said that if the concept of god did not exist, some how or other, man would have created one because it is very important for his psyche. A divine power is necessary to allay our innate fear, suspicion, worries, disturbances, anxiety and craving. To avoid problems we depend on an external force to give us solace. Knowing the nature of the human mind, therefore, Anatole France said that if a god did not exist we would have to create one.

In this sense we are just like children. When a small baby is crying and the mother is too busy to carry it, what she does is to put a teat in its mouth to comfort it. That will stop the baby from crying. The concept of god helps many people in this manner. To stop their worries and dry their tears they develop various pacifiers in the form of religious beliefs and practices.

 

[Y2K]

THE BUDDHA


It was in a religious climate such as this that the Buddha appeared. As a prince living in the lap of luxury he started to think very deeply on why living beings suffer in this world. What is the cause of this suffering? he asked. One day while he was sitting under a tree as a young boy, he saw a snake suddenly appear and catch a frog. As the snake and the frog were struggling, an eagle swooped down from the sky and took away the snake with the frog still in its mouth. That incident was the turning point for the young prince to renounce the worldly life.
He began to think about how living beings on the earth and in the water survive by preying on each other. One life form tries to grab and the other tries to escape and this eternal battle will continue as long as the world exists. This never-ending process of hunting, and self-preservation is the basis of our unhappiness. It is the source of all suffering. The Prince decided that he would discover the means to end this suffering.

 

[Y2K]

DID BUDDHA MAKE ANY PROMISES?


The Buddha did not promise heavenly bliss and rewards to those who called themselves his followers nor did he promise salvation to those who had faith in him. To him religion was not a bargain but a noble way of life to gain enlightenment and salvation. The Buddha did not want followers with blind faith; he wanted human beings to think and understand. Buddhism is a noble path for living where humanism, equality, justice and peace reign supreme. Revengefulness, animosity, condemnation and resentment are alien to the Teaching.
The world is indebted to the Buddha for the rise of rationalism as protest against the superstitions of religion. It is he who emancipated man from the thraldom of the priests. It is he who first showed the way to free man from the coils of hypocrisy and religious dictatorship.

During the Buddha’s time no religious practice was considered higher than the rites, rituals and sacrifice of living beings to the gods; but to the Buddha no practice could be more humiliating or degrading to man. A sacrifice is nothing more than bribery; and salvation won by bribery and corruption is not a salvation which any self-respecting man would care to

 

[saharaz]

So can I summarize your answer this way?

If I am offered to learn Islam and I reject = I will still burn in HELL (Regardless of my good deeds)

I understand Islam and even KILL for Islam = I will END up in heaven



Who believes in GOD = Believes in His word = Al-Q'ran

Al Q'ran gives permission for HOLY WAR = Terrorizing not only culprits you are trying to get rid of.. all the other innocent people too!

So how does this stack up?

So can I say.. according to Q'ran, you have to do a HOLY WAR if necessary that would risk many other innocent people's lives.. So is this the righteous life you are talking about ?

Please.. clarify this and then we move the discussion from there!

So can I summarize your answer this way?
If I am offered to learn Islam and I reject = I will still burn in HELL (Regardless of my good deeds)

as you sow , shall you reap ...
after knowing very well Islam is the ultimate truth and knowingly rejects it obviously you will go to hell unless Allah forgives you if he pleasenth as mentioned in the Glorious Al Quran in Surah Al-Baqarah verse 62 and Surah Al-Maida verse 69

I understand Islam and even KILL for Islam = I will END up in heaven

what do you mean by kill for Islam ????

Who believes in GOD = Believes in His word = Al-Q'ran

The Qu’ran says:

Surely, those who believe [in Islam], those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who believes in GOD, and believes in the Last Day, and leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
Al Quran [2:62]​

the above Al Quran Verse it is not mentioned to believe in Al Quran it says believe in GOD you understand. if you interprete the Al Quran verse according to your conveinent in order to show others Islam in negative it's not my fault you get it ????​

Al Q'ran gives permission for HOLY WAR = Terrorizing not only culprits you are trying to get rid of.. all the other innocent people too!

So how does this stack up?

So can I say.. according to Q'ran, you have to do a HOLY WAR if necessary that would risk many other innocent people's lives.. So is this the righteous life you are talking about ?

Please.. clarify this and then we move the discussion from there!

gimme the chapter number and the verse number of that particular Quran Verses which allows to risk innocent peoples life ..... waiting ....

 

[sri_lion]

as you sow , shall you reap ...
after knowing very well Islam is the ultimate truth and knowingly rejects it obviously you will go to hell unless Allah forgives you if he pleasenth as mentioned in the Glorious Al Quran in Surah Al-Baqarah verse 62 and Surah Al-Maida verse 69

So what will happen to all those people who has no way getting to know the truth in Islam? or fail to see the truth but will live a righteous life.. are you telling me that you need to know Q'ran to live a righteous life?

If so can you explain to me how can Q'ran make a man more righteous that other religions or people with no religions cannot?

what do you mean by kill for Islam ????

On the Judgment day what will happen to all non-Muslims? Do you want me to quote from Q'ran itself?

The Qu’ran says:

Surely, those who believe [in Islam], those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who believes in GOD, and believes in the Last Day, and leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
Al Quran [2:62]​

the above Al Quran Verse it is not mentioned to believe in Al Quran it says believe in GOD you understand. if you interprete the Al Quran verse according to your conveinent in order to show others Islam in negative it's not my fault you get it ????​

You see.. this itself is enough for you to understand simple things... if all who fears GOD regardless of being Muslim or not live a righteous life.. then why would anyone need to be a Muslim in the first place?

So even a Christian would be sent to heaven by Allah!

So is it final that you dont necessarily have to be a Muslim to go to heaven?

​

gimme the chapter number and the verse number of that particular Quran Verses which allows to risk innocent peoples life ..... waiting ....

No need to wait.. Do you or Do you not believe in HOLY WAR?

If you believe, then you know what happened on 9/11.. dont have to go so far even Muslims in this forum regard OSAMA as a HERO!

All those people who got killed because of his HOLY WAR what did they do? after all.... like what you just mentioned MOST of them might have been GOD fearing Christians!

I dont have to tell you which Chapter... you know which chapter I'm talking about.. dont baba talk , the 3rd chapter (Al-Imran, i think) is full of Judgment day yada yada and about what will happen to people who oppose or disbelieve Allah.. go and read!

PEACE OUT!!

 

[A.K ramson]

No need to wait.. Do you or Do you not believe in HOLY WAR?

If you believe, then you know what happened on 9/11.. dont have to go so far even Muslims in this forum regard OSAMA as a HERO!

All those people who got killed because of his HOLY WAR what did they do? after all.... like what you just mentioned MOST of them might have been GOD fearing Christians!

I dont have to tell you which Chapter... you know which chapter I'm talking about.. dont baba talk , the 3rd chapter (Al-Imran, i think) is full of Judgment day yada yada and about what will happen to people who oppose or disbelieve Allah.. go and read!

PEACE OUT!! [/quote]



Brother Sri Laion under what Authority do you claim that majority of Muslims support Osamas view and please point me the Muslim members out here claimed he is a hero,they deserve a spit on thire face,

look brother you have failed to show the verse where it says in quran that to kill innocent civillians,

yet you arrogantly genaralize Muslims as terrorist in an indirect way,is this the way your Nationalist movement hope to bring peace to this Island by insulting other faiths,


9/11 has no connection with the majority of muslims and its a sick act of few evil people more over god knows who are the real culpritts may be the Zionsit propahanda.


But USA too showed they are the worst terrorist by bombing millions of innocent civillians in Iraq and Afganistan.State terrorism.

 

[A.K ramson]

No need to wait.. Do you or Do you not believe in HOLY WAR?

If you believe, then you know what happened on 9/11.. dont have to go so far even Muslims in this forum regard OSAMA as a HERO!

All those people who got killed because of his HOLY WAR what did they do? after all.... like what you just mentioned MOST of them might have been GOD fearing Christians!

I dont have to tell you which Chapter... you know which chapter I'm talking about.. dont baba talk , the 3rd chapter (Al-Imran, i think) is full of Judgment day yada yada and about what will happen to people who oppose or disbelieve Allah.. go and read!

PEACE OUT!!

Brother Sri Laion under what Authority do you claim that majority of Muslims support Osamas view and please point me the Muslim members out here claimed he is a hero,they deserve a spit on thire face,

look brother you have failed to show the verse where it says in quran that to kill innocent civillians,

yet you arrogantly genaralize Muslims as terrorist in an indirect way,is this the way your Nationalist movement hope to bring peace to this Island by insulting other faiths,


9/11 has no connection with the majority of muslims and its a sick act of few evil people more over god knows who are the real culpritts may be the Zionsit propahanda.


But USA too showed they are the worst terrorist by bombing millions of innocent civillians in Iraq and Afganistan.State terrorism.

 

[sri_lion]

Brother Sri Laion under what Authority do you claim that majority of Muslims support Osamas view and please point me the Muslim members out here claimed he is a hero,they deserve a spit on thire face

So you are saying he is NOT doing a HOLY WAR and he is a TERRORIST?

look brother you have failed to show the verse where it says in quran that to kill innocent civillians,

saharaz step on his own tail is not my problem..

I said...

Terrorizing not only culprits you are trying to get rid of.. all the other innocent people too!

I was referring to a HOLY WAR scenario... and in that scenario I did not say Q'ran asking to kill innocent people.. I said the concept of HOLY WAR would kill innocent people too as well as the people that the HOLY WAR suppose to kill

So I stand where I started!

yet you arrogantly genaralize Muslims as terrorist in an indirect way,is this the way your Nationalist movement hope to bring peace to this Island by insulting other faiths,

I live in a Muslim country if I say all Muslims are terrorists then that would be a JOKE! Because I know it is NOT! But the Q'ran accepts killing of beings in one way or another are you denying that?

And please dont talk about National issues.. Because this is about the religion and if I start to talk about "Muslims in Sri Lanka and their behavior in the past" (way back to British era) this thread would not look NICE!! So lets just leave it at that shall we! No need to open old wounds!

9/11 has no connection with the majority of muslims and its a sick act of few evil people more over god knows who are the real culpritts may be the Zionsit propahanda.

But USA too showed they are the worst terrorist by bombing millions of innocent civillians in Iraq and Afganistan.State terrorism.

What do you mean "god knows who is the REAL culprits?" so who do you think really created the 9/11 scenario?

 

[A.K ramson]

So you are saying he is NOT doing a HOLY WAR and he is a TERRORIST?

Lol brother who gave authority to Osama to interpret Islam,he has no right to claim such things.Its up to you to decide whether you learn Islam from Osama or the majority of Peaceful muslims who hate terrorism.

there is a quranic verse where it says if any one who kills one innocent human for no reason its equal to killing the whole humanity.

any sane muslim knows what he Osama does is wrong.


[/quote=Sri_lion]saharaz step on his own tail is not my problem..

I said...



I was referring to a HOLY WAR scenario... and in that scenario I did not say Q'ran asking to kill innocent people.. I said the concept of HOLY WAR would kill innocent people too as well as the people that the HOLY WAR suppose to kill

So I stand where I started![/quote]

If Quran dint ask to kill innocent civillians then no man can do it, its just simple as that,no concept out of that can be accepted,may be by holy war you are refering to Crusades you bettter type the word crusades and search about it in Google so you will see whos concept it is.

I live in a Muslim country if I say all Muslims are terrorists then that would be a JOKE! Because I know it is NOT! But the Q'ran accepts killing of beings in one way or another are you denying that?

And please dont talk about National issues.. Because this is about the religion and if I start to talk about "Muslims in Sri Lanka and their behavior in the past" (way back to British era) this thread would not look NICE!! So lets just leave it at that shall we! No need to open old wounds!

Its great to see you claim that Muslims are not terrorist sorry may be I misunderstood your last post.Yes Quran accpets Millitary messure or a war its obvious in any millitary messure Life could be loast,but the prime aim is to punish the deserving not the innocent. again its not to opress any one but to defend the lands and the rights of the people.Brother We shall look forward to the future and ignore the past that is what I too want,but we Muslim from the past untill now want to live in peace we don't want any separate lands but to live in peace.

What do you mean "god knows who is the REAL culprits?" so who do you think really created the 9/11 scenario?

Brother if you Know the history of Al qaida You will know who created them who funded them to purchuse wepons the USA,again thire are suspisions that this was done with the Help of Zionist who wanted to distract the issues of Palastine and Isreal by creating wars in other parts of the world.What about the war in Iraq iol was worth than human blood for Bush and his allies.

In 9/11 the people who died are 3000 and the number of civiilians who died in AFganistanand iraq are numberd as millions.

Now who is the biggest terrorist,Me As human I respect all innocent lifes that are lost by this wars,whether you are white black red asian eroupian its a human life,

but people are not intrested to cry for the millions of innocnet civillians who died by state terrorim of USA why? may be they were muslims or may be thire lifes weren't worth as US citizens,Or may be its done by accident as Bush claims in his excuse speaches.

Unjustice stems terrorism and we all as people who are against terrorism should fight for injustice and be fair so in future we will be able to live in a peaceful world where terrorism is entirely wiped out.