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<blockquote data-quote="AtulaSiriwardane" data-source="post: 4852772" data-attributes="member: 120286"><p style="text-align: center">If chetana is involved Karma is there.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If mind is pure, no karma.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center">Yes</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center">Since Buddhas teaching is practical,</p> <p style="text-align: center">no need to believe.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Leave what you don't believe and test what you can.</p> <p style="text-align: center">One should believe like a scientist believe in a theory,</p> <p style="text-align: center">to experiment on it.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Edison believed in light bulb.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If he didn't find it</p> <p style="text-align: center">only a belief.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p></p><p></p><p>/quote] Without pragna, how does one know what is seela , kusal or akusal ?</p></blockquote><p></p><p style="text-align: center">Again and again I come to realize that</p> <p style="text-align: center">it is much easier</p> <p style="text-align: center">if we take these words as names of a range.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Pragna does not start when he come across with Buddha.</p> <p style="text-align: center">It develops with every experince we are aware of.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Lesser the defilements more pragna happens.</p> <p style="text-align: center">One who is burnt knows what fire is</p> <p style="text-align: center">and he develop enough pragna to handle fire.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Or not to hit the third rail.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Only this type of people can come in tune with Buddha's Dhamma.</p> <p style="text-align: center">People who learns from mistakes,</p> <p style="text-align: center">at the experiential level.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Some teach knowledge as Pragna.</p> <p style="text-align: center">No</p> <p style="text-align: center">what we heard or read is </p> <p style="text-align: center">Sutamaya gnana..</p> <p style="text-align: center">It is only recorded.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">What you process in your mind is</p> <p style="text-align: center">Cinthamaya gnana.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">What you know by experience</p> <p style="text-align: center">is bhawanamaya gnana,</p> <p style="text-align: center">is pragna.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">All the 3 ars Buddhas, Arhats.</p> <p style="text-align: center">They differ by the way they come in contact with Vipassana </p> <p style="text-align: center">and how do they live life after enlightenment.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Samma Sambuddhas have to accumulate more paramis.</p> <p style="text-align: center">and they serve a lot more compared to Shrawaka Buddhas.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Shravaka Buddhas always can't help even if the student is ready.</p> <p style="text-align: center">But A Samma sambuddha can.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Shariputta was second only to Buddha in pragna.</p> <p style="text-align: center">But there is an instance where he couldn't help a student</p> <p style="text-align: center">after trying for 4 months.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Buddha gave him a lotus fixed on a sand pile in the sun,</p> <p style="text-align: center">he became enlightened in half a day.</p> <p style="text-align: center">(Those 4 months must have helped.)</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="AtulaSiriwardane, post: 4852772, member: 120286"] [CENTER]If chetana is involved Karma is there. If mind is pure, no karma. [/CENTER] [CENTER]Yes [/CENTER] [CENTER]Since Buddhas teaching is practical, no need to believe. Leave what you don't believe and test what you can. One should believe like a scientist believe in a theory, to experiment on it. Edison believed in light bulb. If he didn't find it only a belief. [/CENTER] /quote] Without pragna, how does one know what is seela , kusal or akusal ?[/quote] [CENTER]Again and again I come to realize that it is much easier if we take these words as names of a range. Pragna does not start when he come across with Buddha. It develops with every experince we are aware of. Lesser the defilements more pragna happens. One who is burnt knows what fire is and he develop enough pragna to handle fire. Or not to hit the third rail. Only this type of people can come in tune with Buddha's Dhamma. People who learns from mistakes, at the experiential level. Some teach knowledge as Pragna. No what we heard or read is Sutamaya gnana.. It is only recorded. What you process in your mind is Cinthamaya gnana. What you know by experience is bhawanamaya gnana, is pragna. [/CENTER] [CENTER]All the 3 ars Buddhas, Arhats. They differ by the way they come in contact with Vipassana and how do they live life after enlightenment. Samma Sambuddhas have to accumulate more paramis. and they serve a lot more compared to Shrawaka Buddhas. Shravaka Buddhas always can't help even if the student is ready. But A Samma sambuddha can. Shariputta was second only to Buddha in pragna. But there is an instance where he couldn't help a student after trying for 4 months. Buddha gave him a lotus fixed on a sand pile in the sun, he became enlightened in half a day. (Those 4 months must have helped.) [/CENTER] Thank you. [/QUOTE]
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