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<blockquote data-quote="AtulaSiriwardane" data-source="post: 4853100" data-attributes="member: 120286"><p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p><strong>The king's unrest</strong></p><p></p><p> Upon a bright <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uposatha" target="_blank">uposatha</a> night, King Ajatasattu, monarch of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha_Kingdom" target="_blank">Magadha Kingdom</a>, who is in the mood to hear a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhamma" target="_blank">Dhamma</a> discourse, asked his ministers if there is any worthy teacher "who might enlighten and bring peace to our mind."<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sama%C3%B1%C3%B1aphala_Sutta#cite_note-Thanissaro_1997-1" target="_blank">[2]</a> The ministers in turn suggest that the monarch visit a variety of teachers, all of whom the King rejects by being silent. But when the King's physician, Jivaka, who is being silent all the time, is asked if he can suggest for a teacher to visit, the physician quickly replies that the Buddha is currently staying in the physician's Mango Groves.</p><p> The King immediately agrees to go there. After preparing the elephants and his followers, the King rides for the Mango Groves. Yet, upon arriving on the Groves, the King is suddenly overcome with worry and doubt. The hairs on his body even stands up as he feels the agonizing fear. He asks his physician nervously and suspectingly, "Are you not deceiving me, Jivaka? Do you not betray me and hand my life to the enemies? How come it happens that there is not a single sound heard at all, not even coughs or sneezes in the huge group of 1,250 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangha" target="_blank">Sangha</a> monks?"</p><p> To answer his majesty's paranoia, the physician calmly reassures the monarch, "Do not worry, your Majesty. I am not lying, or deceiving, or betraying you to your enemies. Proceed on, your Majesty! There, in the Hall, where the lights are lit."</p><p> The King proceeds and when he enters the Hall, he has difficulty in spotting where the Buddha is. To his king's aid, Jivaka answers that the Buddha is sitting on the back of a pillar, surrounded by his disciples.</p><p> The King then approach the Buddha and gave his salute. Then, while standing, he sees how the Monks sit in silence, calm like a still, waveless lake. He exclaims: "Can my beloved son, Udayi Bhadda, possess such calmness and composure as the Monks show me now?"</p><p> The Buddha asks him, "If so, Your Majesty, how do you direct your mind towards compassion and love?"</p><p> "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhante" target="_blank">Bhante</a>, I love my son very dearly, and I wish for him to possess the calmness as like the monks have now." The Monarch then prostrates himself towards the Buddha, clasps his palms in salute for the monks, then proceed to sit on the Buddha's side. The monarch then asks, "If my teacher doesn't mind, may I ask you a question?"</p><p> "Ask what you want to ask, King."</p><p></p><p></p><p>The King asks, "Bhante (Teacher), there is a number of skills and talents, such as: Elephant-drivers, chariot-drivers, horse riders, archers, palanquin bearers, army commander's adjutants, royal officers, soldiers, warriors with elephant's courage, heroes, fighters, troops in deer-skin uniform, slaves, cooks and chefs, barbers, bathers, bakers, florists, launderers, weavers, crafters, potters, mathematicians, accountants, and many other skills. In their current life, they enjoy the real fruits of their skills. They support their life, their family, parents, and friends with their skills in happiness and welfare. They donate high-valued gifts and offerings to the Brahmins and the ascetics, giving them rewards of hoyful next life in heaven, and other joys. Can Bhante instruct me what is the real benefit of a contemplative life in this current life?"</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then Buddha answers him with The <strong>Samaññaphala Sutta</strong> is the second discourse of all 34 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digha_Nikaya" target="_blank">Digha Nikaya</a> discourses. The title means, "The Fruit of Contemplative Life Discourse."</p><p></p><p></p><p>Upon hearing the Buddha's explanation, King Ajatasattu declared himself a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upasaka" target="_blank">lay follower</a> of the Buddha.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>The king then confessed that he himself killed his own father so as to become king. The Buddha replied: "Yes, great king, a transgression overcame you in that you were so foolish, so muddle-headed, and so unskilled as to kill your father — a righteous man, a righteous king — for the sake of sovereign rulership. But because you see your transgression as such and make amends in accordance with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhamma" target="_blank">Dhamma</a>, we accept your confession. For it is a cause of growth in the Dhamma & <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinaya" target="_blank">Discipline</a> of the noble ones when, seeing a transgression as such, one makes amends in accordance with the Dhamma and exercises restraint in the future."<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sama%C3%B1%C3%B1aphala_Sutta#cite_note-Thanissaro_1997-1" target="_blank">[2]</a> The Buddha subsequently declares: "... Had [King Ajatasattu] not killed his father [King <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimbisara" target="_blank">Bimbisara</a>] — that righteous man, that righteous king — the dustless, stainless Dhamma eye (Stage of Sotapanna)would have arisen to him as he sat in this very seat.</p><p>_______________________________________________________</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">So how does that Karma </p> <p style="text-align: center">affected him becoming Sotapanna.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">In Patichcha Samuppada,</p> <p style="text-align: center">Thanha pacchaya > Bhava</p> <p style="text-align: center">Bhava pachchaya > jaathi</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">According to the amount of Klesha </p> <p style="text-align: center">based on the thanha, Attachment</p> <p style="text-align: center">Bhava, Life line is created.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">If we eradicate Klesha -defilements</p> <p style="text-align: center">Life line becomes shorter.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If it is shorten in to 7 lives one become Sotapanna.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If it is shorten into 2 lives one become Sakadaagami.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">In Ajasath's case</p> <p style="text-align: center">he was so changed listening to the discourse that</p> <p style="text-align: center">his life line was shorten enough to become Sotapanna,</p> <p style="text-align: center">if he had not committed the bad karma</p> <p style="text-align: center">of killing his father.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">With vipassana one being aware of sensations </p> <p style="text-align: center">with equanimity,</p> <p style="text-align: center">klesha gets dissolved</p> <p style="text-align: center">Thanha becomes less,</p> <p style="text-align: center">and Bhava become shorter.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AtulaSiriwardane, post: 4853100, member: 120286"] [CENTER] [/CENTER] [B]The king's unrest[/B] Upon a bright [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uposatha"]uposatha[/URL] night, King Ajatasattu, monarch of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha_Kingdom"]Magadha Kingdom[/URL], who is in the mood to hear a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhamma"]Dhamma[/URL] discourse, asked his ministers if there is any worthy teacher "who might enlighten and bring peace to our mind."[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sama%C3%B1%C3%B1aphala_Sutta#cite_note-Thanissaro_1997-1"][2][/URL] The ministers in turn suggest that the monarch visit a variety of teachers, all of whom the King rejects by being silent. But when the King's physician, Jivaka, who is being silent all the time, is asked if he can suggest for a teacher to visit, the physician quickly replies that the Buddha is currently staying in the physician's Mango Groves. The King immediately agrees to go there. After preparing the elephants and his followers, the King rides for the Mango Groves. Yet, upon arriving on the Groves, the King is suddenly overcome with worry and doubt. The hairs on his body even stands up as he feels the agonizing fear. He asks his physician nervously and suspectingly, "Are you not deceiving me, Jivaka? Do you not betray me and hand my life to the enemies? How come it happens that there is not a single sound heard at all, not even coughs or sneezes in the huge group of 1,250 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangha"]Sangha[/URL] monks?" To answer his majesty's paranoia, the physician calmly reassures the monarch, "Do not worry, your Majesty. I am not lying, or deceiving, or betraying you to your enemies. Proceed on, your Majesty! There, in the Hall, where the lights are lit." The King proceeds and when he enters the Hall, he has difficulty in spotting where the Buddha is. To his king's aid, Jivaka answers that the Buddha is sitting on the back of a pillar, surrounded by his disciples. The King then approach the Buddha and gave his salute. Then, while standing, he sees how the Monks sit in silence, calm like a still, waveless lake. He exclaims: "Can my beloved son, Udayi Bhadda, possess such calmness and composure as the Monks show me now?" The Buddha asks him, "If so, Your Majesty, how do you direct your mind towards compassion and love?" "[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhante"]Bhante[/URL], I love my son very dearly, and I wish for him to possess the calmness as like the monks have now." The Monarch then prostrates himself towards the Buddha, clasps his palms in salute for the monks, then proceed to sit on the Buddha's side. The monarch then asks, "If my teacher doesn't mind, may I ask you a question?" "Ask what you want to ask, King." The King asks, "Bhante (Teacher), there is a number of skills and talents, such as: Elephant-drivers, chariot-drivers, horse riders, archers, palanquin bearers, army commander's adjutants, royal officers, soldiers, warriors with elephant's courage, heroes, fighters, troops in deer-skin uniform, slaves, cooks and chefs, barbers, bathers, bakers, florists, launderers, weavers, crafters, potters, mathematicians, accountants, and many other skills. In their current life, they enjoy the real fruits of their skills. They support their life, their family, parents, and friends with their skills in happiness and welfare. They donate high-valued gifts and offerings to the Brahmins and the ascetics, giving them rewards of hoyful next life in heaven, and other joys. Can Bhante instruct me what is the real benefit of a contemplative life in this current life?" Then Buddha answers him with The [B]Samaññaphala Sutta[/B] is the second discourse of all 34 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digha_Nikaya"]Digha Nikaya[/URL] discourses. The title means, "The Fruit of Contemplative Life Discourse." Upon hearing the Buddha's explanation, King Ajatasattu declared himself a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upasaka"]lay follower[/URL] of the Buddha. The king then confessed that he himself killed his own father so as to become king. The Buddha replied: "Yes, great king, a transgression overcame you in that you were so foolish, so muddle-headed, and so unskilled as to kill your father — a righteous man, a righteous king — for the sake of sovereign rulership. But because you see your transgression as such and make amends in accordance with the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhamma"]Dhamma[/URL], we accept your confession. For it is a cause of growth in the Dhamma & [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinaya"]Discipline[/URL] of the noble ones when, seeing a transgression as such, one makes amends in accordance with the Dhamma and exercises restraint in the future."[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sama%C3%B1%C3%B1aphala_Sutta#cite_note-Thanissaro_1997-1"][2][/URL] The Buddha subsequently declares: "... Had [King Ajatasattu] not killed his father [King [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimbisara"]Bimbisara[/URL]] — that righteous man, that righteous king — the dustless, stainless Dhamma eye (Stage of Sotapanna)would have arisen to him as he sat in this very seat. _______________________________________________________ [CENTER]So how does that Karma affected him becoming Sotapanna. In Patichcha Samuppada, Thanha pacchaya > Bhava Bhava pachchaya > jaathi According to the amount of Klesha based on the thanha, Attachment Bhava, Life line is created. If we eradicate Klesha -defilements Life line becomes shorter. If it is shorten in to 7 lives one become Sotapanna. If it is shorten into 2 lives one become Sakadaagami. In Ajasath's case he was so changed listening to the discourse that his life line was shorten enough to become Sotapanna, if he had not committed the bad karma of killing his father. With vipassana one being aware of sensations with equanimity, klesha gets dissolved Thanha becomes less, and Bhava become shorter. [/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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