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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AtulaSiriwardane" data-source="post: 4867323" data-attributes="member: 120286"><p style="text-align: center">I thought of this </p> <p style="text-align: center">after hitting submit button</p> <p style="text-align: center">and explained to my wife.</p> <p style="text-align: center">So happy that you are really following this.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Yes.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If chetana is there</p> <p style="text-align: center">Karma is there in this case</p> <p style="text-align: center">because reacting to </p> <p style="text-align: center">something outside is there,</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Let us consider this.</p> <p style="text-align: center">When dhyana is attained</p> <p style="text-align: center">by practising Hindu techniques</p> <p style="text-align: center">or practising Buddhist techniques in Hindu style (?)</p> <p style="text-align: center">Sanskhara happens...</p> <p style="text-align: center">Deeper the dhyana deeper the Upadaana.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">How can I be so sure.?</p> <p style="text-align: center">If one dies</p> <p style="text-align: center">when he is still in Dhyaana</p> <p style="text-align: center">he gets a very long life </p> <p style="text-align: center">in a Brahma dimension as a result.</p> <p style="text-align: center">He was not in Raga, Not in Dwesha,</p> <p style="text-align: center">Not in Samma sati.</p> <p style="text-align: center">what else is left?</p> <p style="text-align: center">Only Moha.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Dhyana attained by Laukika Samadhi</p> <p style="text-align: center">is a state of Moha.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">In that too Chetana can be there.</p> <p style="text-align: center">But difficult to explain.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Karma won't be ceased at enlightenment.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reacting while comitting</p> <p style="text-align: center">a strong Karma like Ananthariya</p> <p style="text-align: center">accumulates very strong Sankharas.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Better to relate Bhava -life line with</p> <p style="text-align: center">Upadana and Sankhara.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Because they can be ceased with Samma Sati,</p> <p style="text-align: center">but not Karma.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Karma is a parallel phenomena</p> <p style="text-align: center">which can confuse the principle of Bhava.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Upadana pachchaya bhava.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">And another point</p> <p style="text-align: center">if thanha is not resulted in upadana</p> <p style="text-align: center">bhava does not happen.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Thirsty > Tanha for water > drinks water</p> <p style="text-align: center">No problem</p> <p style="text-align: center">Thirsty > Tanha for water > No water > Samma Sati</p> <p style="text-align: center">No problem</p> <p style="text-align: center">Thirsty > Tanha for water > No water > cursing, blaming (upadana)</p> <p style="text-align: center">Then the Problem.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Nature do not make us pay for natural acts.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If we over act we have to pay.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p></blockquote><p></p>

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