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<blockquote data-quote="AtulaSiriwardane" data-source="post: 4914301" data-attributes="member: 120286"><p style="text-align: center">I respect your humility.</p> <p style="text-align: center">That shows further that </p> <p style="text-align: center">you are closer to the track.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If we try to understand </p> <p style="text-align: center">Dhamma using our mind only we are bound to misunderstand.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Especially because it is about both mind and body.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Buddha's teaching is about ourselves,</p> <p style="text-align: center">if we relate Dhamma to us.</p> <p style="text-align: center">You are correct about my pruthagjana state.</p> <p style="text-align: center">I am not even Sotapanna.</p> <p style="text-align: center">My interest is not about them.</p> <p style="text-align: center">I want to purify my mind as possible as I can.</p> <p style="text-align: center">I have experienced the 3 kleshas as physical sensations,</p> <p style="text-align: center">just before they turn in to tanha.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Vedana pachchaya tanha.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Vedana is the only cause we can experience in this moment.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Vipassana has taught me how to be aare of the sensations </p> <p style="text-align: center">and how to be equanimous toward them</p> <p style="text-align: center">eradicating Kleshas.</p> <p style="text-align: center">I will tell what I understood </p> <p style="text-align: center">in relation to my Vipassana experience.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Do not accept or reject them without relating them</p> <p style="text-align: center">to your own experience some day.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Once someone start looking at his/her own self</p> <p style="text-align: center">he/she can see that</p> <p style="text-align: center">all the things you typed are there.</p> <p style="text-align: center">They are symptoms.</p> <p style="text-align: center">It is not possible to eradicate</p> <p style="text-align: center">the symptoms like dasa sanyojana</p> <p style="text-align: center">or nievarana.</p> <p style="text-align: center">We have to act at the base level.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Base is the 3 kleshas.</p> <p style="text-align: center">everything else stems out from them.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If the mind is free from them</p> <p style="text-align: center">there will be only</p> <p style="text-align: center">Metta, Muditha, Karuna and Upekkha.</p> <p style="text-align: center">In every moment one of these kleshas are present,</p> <p style="text-align: center">in a gross or subtle way.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Dislike is a subtle form of dwesha.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Hatred is a gross form of dwesha.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Romance is a subtle form of Raga.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Rape is a gross form of raga.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Sleepiness is a subtle form of Moha.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Unconsciousness is a subtle form of Moha.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">An action is a result of a thought.</p> <p style="text-align: center">A thought is a result of an emotion.</p> <p style="text-align: center">An emotion is a result of a sensation.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Though we are not able to feel</p> <p style="text-align: center">whole body is full of sensations.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If you lie down </p> <p style="text-align: center">after breaking sleep for a whole night</p> <p style="text-align: center">you may feel tingling all over the body.</p> <p style="text-align: center">And when you feel a strong emotion</p> <p style="text-align: center">you would feel lot of related sensations in the body.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Vedana - Sensation is the link between body and mind.</p> <p style="text-align: center">If we can be aware of the sensation </p> <p style="text-align: center">and be equanimous toward it</p> <p style="text-align: center">the samskaras arose will be eradicated.</p> <p style="text-align: center">As I understand,</p> <p style="text-align: center">Samskara is the dynamic state of Klesha.</p> <p style="text-align: center">They are bound to decay.</p> <p style="text-align: center">vaya dhamma sankhara.</p> <p style="text-align: center">When we allow Samskaras to arise</p> <p style="text-align: center">which will be felt as sensations of the body</p> <p style="text-align: center">by maintaining Upeksha toward these sensations</p> <p style="text-align: center">sanskaras gets eradicated</p> <p style="text-align: center">weakening Pancha nievarana,</p> <p style="text-align: center">Dasa Sanyojana and all the other symptoms.</p> <p style="text-align: center">From the very first moment you start doing this</p> <p style="text-align: center">results occur.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Dhammo Akaliko</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">The journey from A to B begins</p> <p style="text-align: center">as we start to be aware of </p> <p style="text-align: center">Body</p> <p style="text-align: center">Sensations in the body.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Mind</p> <p style="text-align: center">What arises in mind.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Buddha says in the beginning of Satipatthana Sutta</p> <p style="text-align: center">The one and only way</p> <p style="text-align: center">Ekayano maggo</p> <p style="text-align: center">to Purify the being</p> <p style="text-align: center">Sattanan visuddhiya.</p> <p style="text-align: center">is being aware of</p> <p style="text-align: center">Body</p> <p style="text-align: center">Sensations in the body.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Mind</p> <p style="text-align: center">What arises in mind.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Chattaro satipatthana.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">I hope you will study Satipatthana sutta too,</p> <p style="text-align: center">and start practicing soon.</p> <p style="text-align: center">I recommend with my 18 years of experience in this technique</p> <p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.dhamma.org" target="_blank">www.dhamma.org</a>.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">I hope to reply my questions as you suggested,</p> <p style="text-align: center">as I was planning even before,</p> <p style="text-align: center">but inspired a lot by your suggestion.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Thanks for carrying out the discussion,</p> <p style="text-align: center">I tend to understand my experiences more</p> <p style="text-align: center">when I discuss.</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AtulaSiriwardane, post: 4914301, member: 120286"] [CENTER]I respect your humility. That shows further that you are closer to the track. If we try to understand Dhamma using our mind only we are bound to misunderstand. Especially because it is about both mind and body. Buddha's teaching is about ourselves, if we relate Dhamma to us. You are correct about my pruthagjana state. I am not even Sotapanna. My interest is not about them. I want to purify my mind as possible as I can. I have experienced the 3 kleshas as physical sensations, just before they turn in to tanha. Vedana pachchaya tanha. Vedana is the only cause we can experience in this moment. Vipassana has taught me how to be aare of the sensations and how to be equanimous toward them eradicating Kleshas. I will tell what I understood in relation to my Vipassana experience. Do not accept or reject them without relating them to your own experience some day. Once someone start looking at his/her own self he/she can see that all the things you typed are there. They are symptoms. It is not possible to eradicate the symptoms like dasa sanyojana or nievarana. We have to act at the base level. Base is the 3 kleshas. everything else stems out from them. If the mind is free from them there will be only Metta, Muditha, Karuna and Upekkha. In every moment one of these kleshas are present, in a gross or subtle way. Dislike is a subtle form of dwesha. Hatred is a gross form of dwesha. Romance is a subtle form of Raga. Rape is a gross form of raga. Sleepiness is a subtle form of Moha. Unconsciousness is a subtle form of Moha. An action is a result of a thought. A thought is a result of an emotion. An emotion is a result of a sensation. Though we are not able to feel whole body is full of sensations. If you lie down after breaking sleep for a whole night you may feel tingling all over the body. And when you feel a strong emotion you would feel lot of related sensations in the body. Vedana - Sensation is the link between body and mind. If we can be aware of the sensation and be equanimous toward it the samskaras arose will be eradicated. As I understand, Samskara is the dynamic state of Klesha. They are bound to decay. vaya dhamma sankhara. When we allow Samskaras to arise which will be felt as sensations of the body by maintaining Upeksha toward these sensations sanskaras gets eradicated weakening Pancha nievarana, Dasa Sanyojana and all the other symptoms. From the very first moment you start doing this results occur. Dhammo Akaliko The journey from A to B begins as we start to be aware of Body Sensations in the body. Mind What arises in mind. Buddha says in the beginning of Satipatthana Sutta The one and only way Ekayano maggo to Purify the being Sattanan visuddhiya. is being aware of Body Sensations in the body. Mind What arises in mind. Chattaro satipatthana. I hope you will study Satipatthana sutta too, and start practicing soon. I recommend with my 18 years of experience in this technique [url]www.dhamma.org[/url]. I hope to reply my questions as you suggested, as I was planning even before, but inspired a lot by your suggestion. Thanks for carrying out the discussion, I tend to understand my experiences more when I discuss. [/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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