What is da Best Technoly in WEB

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shanX said:
machan AJAX hasnt got anything to do with java :P

Java and Javascript are totally different languages ;)


but both in da same domain ...... Java Scripts is a sub set of Java language ......... do v call J2ME as a different language ?? nope coz da same reason ..... coz whatever its it uses da same JVM........ if anything use a JVM (or a variation) v can call it java...... isnt it ?
 

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upuldi said:
but both in da same domain ...... Java Scripts is a sub set of Java language ......... do v call J2ME as a different language ?? nope coz da same reason ..... coz whatever its it uses da same JVM........ if anything use a JVM (or a variation) v can call it java...... isnt it ?

Naha machang.. Both are completely different.

Did you go to SLIIT...???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript said:
Despite the name, JavaScript is unrelated to the Java programming language; though both have a common debt to C syntax. The language was renamed from LiveScript in a co-marketing deal between Netscape and Sun in exchange for Netscape bundling Sun's Java runtime with their browser, which was dominant at the time. JavaScript semantics is much more similar to the Self programming language.
 

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Naha machang.. Both are completely different.

Did you go to SLIIT...???


:lol: :lol: y ? Nope machan i do have a uk degree.

Anyway how ? (or y ? ) do u say dat both r different ..... is it bcoz of da concept or da syntext or anything else ..............

i know da way v programming is totally different in these two ........... but y dont u thing about da runtime ? as far as i know (but i may b wrong) java scripts uses da same JVM (actuallly JRE) to run in browser ..... So how do u define it as a different language ? or is it possible ?

Can u call vb scripts as a different language ? it can b TREATED AS a different language but conceptually can it ?
 

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upuldi said:
:lol: :lol: y ? Nope machan i do have a uk degree.

Anyway how ? (or y ? ) do u say dat both r different ..... is it bcoz of da concept or da syntext or anything else ..............

i know da way v programming is totally different in these two ........... but y dont u thing about da runtime ? as far as i know (but i may b wrong) java scripts uses da same JVM (actuallly JRE) to run in browser ..... So how do u define it as a different language ? or is it possible ?

Can u call vb scripts as a different language ? it can b TREATED AS a different language but conceptually can it ?

Machang, JavaScripts doesn't use JVM. JS uses only the JavaScript interpreter.

Run time environments are quite different machang (as I know;))

I asked about the SLIIT thin, actually coz I also had the same kinda misunderstanding when I was at SLIIT.

hehe

Try this link and view the video presentations. A nice little source ;)

http://101out.com/js.php
 

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yeah ..... i m watching it ............. thanks for da update machan :D :D

till 2day i though both uses da same JVM anyway :lol:


Thanks anyway for correction me .......
 

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upuldi said:
yeah ..... i m watching it ............. thanks for da update machan :D :D

till 2day i though both uses da same JVM anyway :lol:


Thanks anyway for correction me .......

No worries machang :) ;)

Ya anyway this subject is a bit controversial thing :rofl:
 

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JRE = JVM + other core components so it can not be totally deterrent anyway

anyway awesome vid machan :)
 

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upuldi said:
JRE = JVM + other core components so it can not be totally deterrent anyway

anyway awesome vid machan :)


Not 'totally' diff machang... Coz all the languages ultimately derived from a single language ne :P

Ya, this bugger is an awesome guy
 

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ok dean what does it mean ................... :P

Yeah but it doesnt mean dat all languages behave or perform same ........

Yeah ya bung.. :P

Runtime environments are different of Java and JS 'totally', but still... all those are programming languages ne... So behave the same way, or rather I would say 'almost' the same way ;)
 

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    x-pert said:
    Web Services are not quite a "web Technology" I guess...
    It's a method of transportation ne.. So to achieve a high level of portability and to communicate with Legacy applications, web services are the most easiest way machang ;)
    Yeah true, but you were the one who preferred "Web Services" as the best "Web Technology" as far as i remember (btw my memory is nt tht gud ;))
     

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    Yeah true, but you were the one who preferred "Web Services" as the best "Web Technology" as far as i remember (btw my memory is nt tht gud ;))

    err.. yeah... maybe... :lol:

    machang day by day the knowledge increases ne ithin ;)

    WebServices is a transport mechanism as far as I concern now ;)
    In a way yes, it can be consider as a web tech as well due to its massive usage
     

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    Very good thread!!

    Just to add to what's being discussed here... I think there is no such thing called "The Best Web Technology" simply because the whole meaning of Best Technology is a very relative term.. In other words whether a technology is best, better or worse totally depends on how and where its being applied. Most of the people point out one technology and say "that's no good" and most of the time its not good because it is not the suitable technology to apply for that particular scenario, not because the technology doesn't work or anything.

    If we talk about PHP, PHP is undoubtedly the most used web technology on the web studies have shown that its being used by well over 19 million domains (that's a lot) and it seems this accounts for more than 30% of the web, so PHP has proven its capabilities. Main reasons for this would be that it does natively support the world most used Server - Apache Server and also the native support for MySQL, though MySQL is not quite the best DB around having these 3 technologies bonded together and offered for free makes WAMP and LAMP systems very popular. And newer trends such as PHP+Flash AS applications also supports the growth of the PHP environment. And not to mention that PHP is a community effort so support is available freely and if you are verse enough there's no need to wait for anyone, you yourself can expolore the PHP core!!!

    .NET is also very powerful tool, but aimed at different target groups which are more of large companies which needs to cut down development time, as .NET development would be faster than generic PHP programming, (Having said that PHP couple up with IDEs such as Dreamweaver are as good as .NET now, if you've worked then you know what I mean) And the good thing is you can work with multiple languages in .NET but on the other hand development will only be feasible in Windows environment. And of cource its COSTLY!!

    JAVA I think is the Jack of all trades, and it is everywhere weather standalone applications or web-based.

    New technologies such as Ruby also coming up pretty fast... Infact I think in another 5 years time Ruby would make huge impact on the web with its framework called "Rails" (Normally the two known as Ruby on Rails) and IDE's like NetBeans already supports Ruby this will make it much faster.

    So I'd say there not much of a difference between these technologies BUT it can make a huge difference on what grounds you are applying these technologies...
     

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    err.. yeah... maybe... :lol:

    machang day by day the knowledge increases ne ithin ;)

    WebServices is a transport mechanism as far as I concern now ;)
    In a way yes, it can be consider as a web tech as well due to its massive usage
    Heh heh yeah.

    Btw @sri_lion PHP sure rocks :)