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<blockquote data-quote="kalyanamithra" data-source="post: 4467800" data-attributes="member: 99586"><p>I am not...</p><p></p><p>"Asapuwa", "Pansala", "Viharaya", "Senasuna".. we should not care what we call a place..</p><p>The important thing is that we practice Dhamma correctly...</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>As I see; it's good to chant in whatever language provided you understand the meaning...</p><p>It is the suttas that tell us Dhamma, so the most important thing is learning what they say...</p><p></p><p>As for preserving: pali version should be preseved... as it had been for thousands of years...</p><p></p><p>By the way, is it Mahamevnawa that you are referring to as Asapuwa (because I know a little about it)? And I know that they have their latest Tipitaka translations in both pali and sinhala... </p><p></p><p>I live in a western country... and I know that those in west use the English Tipitaka translations... so why not we Sinhalese use Sinhala translations..</p><p>Afterall our aim should be developing Dhamma in us...</p><p></p><p>Once we develop Shraddha... no one need to poke us and ask us to help preserve Dhamma..</p><p>We'll do it spontaneously... because we know what Dhamma means...</p><p>what Dhamma bringsforth...</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>What they say is nonsense... </p><p>We do not want to get any 'powers' by listening to Suttas.</p><p>Our aim should be understanding them...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once we enter the Path we get to know what we should do and should not...</p><p></p><p>If a monk does not keep 'expectations' on what he will get for 'Dane' he won't become a part of the sin (even if an animal was kille for the Dane - why?)... (see Jeewaka Sutta). </p><p></p><p>Yes, the Supreme Buddhha has advocated the monks to accept meat if they are 'Tikotika parisuddha' (however there are certains types of meat the Supreme Buddha has forbidden to ear - because of various reasons). However, the monks have been advised to ask the donar of the origin - if they accept meet.</p><p></p><p>Aim of Sila is helping us refrain from the sins that will cause any hindarance to our completion of the Path... The aim is helping us have more control over our senses - so that we can more easily be mindful... etc... etc..</p><p></p><p>That's why we do not have to worry if we walk over ants? or if we drown the ants when watering plants? or if any insects have been killed when growing the crops we consume?</p><p>It's somewhat similar about meat...</p><p></p><p>A sin happens only if there's intention...</p><p></p><p>Yes, you would sin if you keep buy meat with the aim of getting more and more animals killed... </p><p></p><p>But it's not a sin for you if you buy meat (some other food that contain meet)...</p><p>Because that animal was killed for someone to consume (not specifically you).. the sin happens at the moment of killing... and you are not involved there...</p><p></p><p>AnywayIf a monk does not keep 'expectations' on what he will get for 'Dane' he won't become a part of the sin (even if an animal was kille for the Dane - why?)... (see Jeewaka Sutta). </p><p></p><p>Therefore, eating meat or not should be our personal preference.. that's all...</p><p>That's why even the monks are not advised not to eat meat..</p><p></p><p>Another thing: there no hidden meaning in Dhamma... </p><p>So why would the Supreme Buddha discouse anything about 'tikotika parisudda' if eating meat is forbidden?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the monks should discuss Dhamma as it was discoursed by the Buddha. That's for sure..</p><p>As for food.. it's good for monks if they do not have any expectations on what they would receive at a Danne.. i.e. They should not ask the Dayaka for food they desire..</p><p></p><p>About asapu, I do not know how the Dane is given to Asapu..</p><p>There's no asapu, where I live ...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Theruwan saranai!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kalyanamithra, post: 4467800, member: 99586"] I am not... "Asapuwa", "Pansala", "Viharaya", "Senasuna".. we should not care what we call a place.. The important thing is that we practice Dhamma correctly... As I see; it's good to chant in whatever language provided you understand the meaning... It is the suttas that tell us Dhamma, so the most important thing is learning what they say... As for preserving: pali version should be preseved... as it had been for thousands of years... By the way, is it Mahamevnawa that you are referring to as Asapuwa (because I know a little about it)? And I know that they have their latest Tipitaka translations in both pali and sinhala... I live in a western country... and I know that those in west use the English Tipitaka translations... so why not we Sinhalese use Sinhala translations.. Afterall our aim should be developing Dhamma in us... Once we develop Shraddha... no one need to poke us and ask us to help preserve Dhamma.. We'll do it spontaneously... because we know what Dhamma means... what Dhamma bringsforth... What they say is nonsense... We do not want to get any 'powers' by listening to Suttas. Our aim should be understanding them... Once we enter the Path we get to know what we should do and should not... If a monk does not keep 'expectations' on what he will get for 'Dane' he won't become a part of the sin (even if an animal was kille for the Dane - why?)... (see Jeewaka Sutta). Yes, the Supreme Buddhha has advocated the monks to accept meat if they are 'Tikotika parisuddha' (however there are certains types of meat the Supreme Buddha has forbidden to ear - because of various reasons). However, the monks have been advised to ask the donar of the origin - if they accept meet. Aim of Sila is helping us refrain from the sins that will cause any hindarance to our completion of the Path... The aim is helping us have more control over our senses - so that we can more easily be mindful... etc... etc.. That's why we do not have to worry if we walk over ants? or if we drown the ants when watering plants? or if any insects have been killed when growing the crops we consume? It's somewhat similar about meat... A sin happens only if there's intention... Yes, you would sin if you keep buy meat with the aim of getting more and more animals killed... But it's not a sin for you if you buy meat (some other food that contain meet)... Because that animal was killed for someone to consume (not specifically you).. the sin happens at the moment of killing... and you are not involved there... AnywayIf a monk does not keep 'expectations' on what he will get for 'Dane' he won't become a part of the sin (even if an animal was kille for the Dane - why?)... (see Jeewaka Sutta). Therefore, eating meat or not should be our personal preference.. that's all... That's why even the monks are not advised not to eat meat.. Another thing: there no hidden meaning in Dhamma... So why would the Supreme Buddha discouse anything about 'tikotika parisudda' if eating meat is forbidden? Anyway, the monks should discuss Dhamma as it was discoursed by the Buddha. That's for sure.. As for food.. it's good for monks if they do not have any expectations on what they would receive at a Danne.. i.e. They should not ask the Dayaka for food they desire.. About asapu, I do not know how the Dane is given to Asapu.. There's no asapu, where I live ... Theruwan saranai! [/QUOTE]
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