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<blockquote data-quote="alagakkonara" data-source="post: 5292962" data-attributes="member: 128791"><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">You say that it's up to each individual, and yet you think that whoever wrote this article knows where the Buddhism stands on eating meat. How can you be the judge and say this is where Buddhism stands I do not know.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">From my study and research I have found out 3 things, occasions that Buddhists take out from the whole buddhist culture(I say this because 2 of them are not from dhamma to the best of my knowelege) to justify that eating meat is ok.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong> (1) Buddha died from a sickness called 'lohitha pakkandika' which he got from eating a something called 'Sookara Maggawa'. Since Sookara means pig, obviously this food was made using pork.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong> (2)Devdath came to buddha and said, I need this rule, "All bhikku should not eat meat though their life time". It is said that buddha said, anyone can take this as a rule, those who do not wish to go by such rule shouldnt.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Now the third one is the one mostly admired by people who love to eat meat. They find justice in it.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong> (3)Buddha has said there are five things to be completed for an action to be a "pranagatha". And few of these won't be completed if you eat meat killed by someone else, so its ok.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I have my own ideas and thoughts on each one of these, I have studied them. But I do not wish to discuss this further more now. I will simply say one thing. I have seen in this thread that someone had said, thripitaka is not buddhist words, in fact it's written by someone else right? If you go and say that, what good are the words taken from "Buddha Charithaya" to us? (Not meaning that its not useful, but in the sense it's just a story written by someone else). The above first 2 points are taken from "Buddha Charithaya" so I drop it right there.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">The 3rd point is really interesting, and from Dhamma itself, but I do not discuss that now.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Let me just point out from thousands of sayings that say value the life, do not harm it, do not encourage harming it, etc few things straight from dhamma.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong> (1) Pansil</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>(2) Maddyama prathipada</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Need I explain? I do not think so because I know many ppl in this thread are buddhists. Buddha himself said that the dhamma is for those who are wise.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">So the question is not really about whether buddha said eating meat is right or wrong. The question is about people who are afraid to loose their social position, just because they like something and it's said to be wrong. Therefor they try to justify it. And thereby keep their position.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">It all comes to this. Everyman is for himself. The journey is individual. Your justifications are for yourself. But do not use them to wrongly point out something in dhamma. Whatever you do is ok. There's no need to justify what you do, in front of dhamma. Just do what you think is right. It doesnt have to be the way of buddha, nor you need to find answers in dhamma to justify what you do.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">That being said, I might be wrong, if so please accept my apologies. I might be trying to justify my ways through dhamma. If so please accept my apologies. I only try to go through logics, as buddha said.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="alagakkonara, post: 5292962, member: 128791"] [SIZE=4] You say that it's up to each individual, and yet you think that whoever wrote this article knows where the Buddhism stands on eating meat. How can you be the judge and say this is where Buddhism stands I do not know. From my study and research I have found out 3 things, occasions that Buddhists take out from the whole buddhist culture(I say this because 2 of them are not from dhamma to the best of my knowelege) to justify that eating meat is ok. [B] (1) Buddha died from a sickness called 'lohitha pakkandika' which he got from eating a something called 'Sookara Maggawa'. Since Sookara means pig, obviously this food was made using pork.[/B] [B] (2)Devdath came to buddha and said, I need this rule, "All bhikku should not eat meat though their life time". It is said that buddha said, anyone can take this as a rule, those who do not wish to go by such rule shouldnt.[/B] Now the third one is the one mostly admired by people who love to eat meat. They find justice in it. [B] (3)Buddha has said there are five things to be completed for an action to be a "pranagatha". And few of these won't be completed if you eat meat killed by someone else, so its ok.[/B] I have my own ideas and thoughts on each one of these, I have studied them. But I do not wish to discuss this further more now. I will simply say one thing. I have seen in this thread that someone had said, thripitaka is not buddhist words, in fact it's written by someone else right? If you go and say that, what good are the words taken from "Buddha Charithaya" to us? (Not meaning that its not useful, but in the sense it's just a story written by someone else). The above first 2 points are taken from "Buddha Charithaya" so I drop it right there. The 3rd point is really interesting, and from Dhamma itself, but I do not discuss that now. Let me just point out from thousands of sayings that say value the life, do not harm it, do not encourage harming it, etc few things straight from dhamma. [B] (1) Pansil (2) Maddyama prathipada[/B] Need I explain? I do not think so because I know many ppl in this thread are buddhists. Buddha himself said that the dhamma is for those who are wise. So the question is not really about whether buddha said eating meat is right or wrong. The question is about people who are afraid to loose their social position, just because they like something and it's said to be wrong. Therefor they try to justify it. And thereby keep their position. It all comes to this. Everyman is for himself. The journey is individual. Your justifications are for yourself. But do not use them to wrongly point out something in dhamma. Whatever you do is ok. There's no need to justify what you do, in front of dhamma. Just do what you think is right. It doesnt have to be the way of buddha, nor you need to find answers in dhamma to justify what you do. That being said, I might be wrong, if so please accept my apologies. I might be trying to justify my ways through dhamma. If so please accept my apologies. I only try to go through logics, as buddha said.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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