...Who is responsibel for RUBeLLA case?

who is responsibel for the of the RUBELLA case?

  • the government

    Votes: 7 41.2%
  • the doctors

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • the school principle

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • the vaccine

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .

gazaly

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"Ranil" ehema kiwwe naththanm pudumai EK eke kattiya...

Meyka Kakilley Rajjuruwan Hitiya Rata ney.. A'kai mama Ehema Kiwwe..
 

Wolverine GTR

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    Mama nam Hitathana Widiyata Docters lath Me Wechcha deta Waga Kiyanna one.Ara Marunu Girl ge amma Letter 1kak Deela Thiyanawane Check karala Balala rubella 1ka Denna kiyala.A kiyalath A gollo (dana ganna labichcha Widiyata)A Lamayata Balenma Injection 1ka Gahaawwa Kiyala Thamai Danaganna Labune.Thawath 1ka Pattakin lankawe Saukya Departa mentuwath Yam kisi Mattamakin me Unu Deyata Waga Kiyanna One Kiyala Hithanawa,Mokada Kiyanawanam Ara Marunu lamaya Hara,Thawath lamai 25 denekutath Aka Aka Rogee Thathwayan Athi Unane.A nisa Mama Hitanna Me sidda wechcha deta Saukya Departhamentuwath Waga Kiyanna One!!!!!!!!!
     

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    Wolverine GTR said:
    Mama Hitanna Me sidda wechcha deta Saukya Departhamentuwath Waga Kiyanna One!!!!!!!!!
    machan Eyala thmayi responsible..
    Rubella vaccine eka dena eka saha aniwaryayenma ganna eka national policy ekak..eka kada karanna be..ehema karoth nadu dannath puluwan...
    but meka Vaccines Wala Quality eka pilibanda prashnayak...
    Eikata waga kiyanna one tender karala vaccines genwana aya..ewaye quality eka Assure karana eka eyaala bandila innawa..
    Vaccine ekak mass Allergy ekak wunama eika loku issue ekak...Serious offend ekak..
    Meka Eka lamayekuta witharak wechccha deyak newene..20+ affect wuna..
    so warada kaageda? Lokkonge:dull:
     
    mata nan harima dukai e lamaya gena
    e kohoma unath me deta vagakiyanna one aya e deta gevanna onemai
    aparade vatina jeevithayak....

    mama iskole yana kale apitath oka vidda
    habai mama nan eda iskole giye na, mokada mata e tharan visvasayak thibbe na oya ennatha gena....
    me siddiya ahunahama matha hithuna eda man kala de hari kiyala

    man hithuvata vada lankave health ministry eka sauttui
    me vage siddi valin oppu venava eka attak kiyala...
    aparade ara lamayage jeevithe :(
     
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    oya hari

    Wolverine GTR said:
    Mama nam Hitathana Widiyata Docters lath Me Wechcha deta Waga Kiyanna one.Ara Marunu Girl ge amma Letter 1kak Deela Thiyanawane Check karala Balala rubella 1ka Denna kiyala.A kiyalath A gollo (dana ganna labichcha Widiyata)A Lamayata Balenma Injection 1ka Gahaawwa Kiyala Thamai Danaganna Labune.Thawath 1ka Pattakin lankawe Saukya Departa mentuwath Yam kisi Mattamakin me Unu Deyata Waga Kiyanna One Kiyala Hithanawa,Mokada Kiyanawanam Ara Marunu lamaya Hara,Thawath lamai 25 denekutath Aka Aka Rogee Thathwayan Athi Unane.A nisa Mama Hitanna Me sidda wechcha deta Saukya Departhamentuwath Waga Kiyanna One!!!!!!!!!


    oya kiyana de hari,e 2 gollama kiyalath Poll option ekak danna.


    mokada mcn mekata rajaya gawaganna hadanne,eyala mekata monawa karannada?beath hoda nethnam hoda beath ganna ona,mokada gov eken ona tharan owata salli denawa



    e nangita niwan suwama lebewa,aye me wage dukak nowewa:yes:
     
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    nagaya

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    okkoma....mokatada balen inhection denna giye :angry:
    dan oken wenne minissu gsk eken gahanna yai amaruwen hari mewa sure ne kiyala :angry:
    okata mona hari karanna wenwa aye ohoma dewal novenna
     

    Wal Bada

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  • Wolverine GTR said:
    Mama nam Hitathana Widiyata Docters lath Me Wechcha deta Waga Kiyanna one.Ara Marunu Girl ge amma Letter 1kak Deela Thiyanawane Check karala Balala rubella 1ka Denna kiyala.
    There was nothing like that in the letter. It said she was allergic to dairy products.

    A kiyalath A gollo (dana ganna labichcha Widiyata)A Lamayata Balenma Injection 1ka Gahaawwa Kiyala Thamai Danaganna Labune.
    Kohenda? Other thing is Rubella vaccine is not a cow based one. There is no contra-indication in vaccinating a person with milk allergy with that vaccine. It's well documented thing.

    Thawath 1ka Pattakin lankawe Saukya Departa mentuwath Yam kisi Mattamakin me Unu Deyata Waga Kiyanna One Kiyala Hithanawa, Mokada Kiyanawanam Ara Marunu lamaya Hara,Thawath lamai 25 denekutath Aka Aka Rogee Thathwayan Athi Unane.A nisa Mama Hitanna Me sidda wechcha deta Saukya Departhamentuwath Waga Kiyanna One!!!!!!!!!
    Other 25 did not even have an allergic reaction to it. It was mostly due to the unrest created by the incident.

    Who's responsible? I think minister. He has a history of importing cheap low quality drugs. Benzathine Penicilillin, cefotaxime, coamoxiclav and streptokinase are some examples for low quality drugs.
     

    x-pert

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    Wal Bada said:
    There was nothing like that in the letter. It said she was allergic to dairy products.

    Kohenda? Other thing is Rubella vaccine is not a cow based one. There is no contra-indication in vaccinating a person with milk allergy with that vaccine. It's well documented thing.

    Other 25 did not even have an allergic reaction to it. It was mostly due to the unrest created by the incident.

    Who's responsible? I think minister. He has a history of importing cheap low quality drugs. Benzathine Penicilillin, cefotaxime, coamoxiclav and streptokinase are some examples for low quality drugs.
    Is this called passing the ball or washing the hands?

    Yes, Minister and his ministry is responsible for sure. Indirectly the whole Government is responsible due to low budget allocations etc.

    But I personally believe Doctors community has a equal stake in responsibility for the death of that innocent child...

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    Doctors' should have checked the drug for vulnerabilities or they has to urge the ministry to import proper quality drugs. If not, how can people trust a Doctor if they are simply a set of puppets of the Health Minister?

    [No offence machan :D]

    And BTW, What is the reason for that death? Is it an Allergy or are they expired drugs?
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    x-pert

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    The Government - Yes for sure. Because they should have set up proper protocols in importing drugs according to a proper quality standard. And they should allocate more money for the health sector.

    The Doctors - Yes. They are the people who knows about drugs. And people should be able to trust them. Medical Doctor is rather a service provider than an occupation. So they should have their values as doctors. They should know how to influence the Government to import proper medicine. OR abandon the scheme at all.

    The Principal - He isn't responsible for this I guess. What does he know about medicine?


    The Vaccine - Vaccine is not responsible because vaccine does not have any knowledge itself. But the people who make and use it are the ones who are responsible.

    Anyway no point finding who is responsible now. Because that innocent girl won't come to life again :no:
    Let's hope in the future authorities will be more responsible and do things better than this.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • And I will use regimens for the benefit of the ill in accordance with my ability and my judgement, but from [what is] to their harm or injustice I will keep [them]
    Sorry, now we don't take the hippoctratic oath. Because it's hypocratic by my religion. So no oath is given in the name of Apollo blah blah. (Yes, I was the first to refuse to give the oath at SLMC, and when I brought on the problem of religion, the authorities were shell-shocked as they could not force me to read it. But that's off topic.

    Doctors' should have checked the drug for vulnerabilities
    How? by tasting it? or putting it on a slide or examining under electron microscopy? There is a seperate drug monitoring authority to test those things (which is of couse run by set of doctors, affiliated there by the ministry). Ordinary doctor on the field does not have any means of testing these vulnerabilities. He only can get an allergic and epilepsy history of the patient and check the technical information on the pack to make sure it is not expired. What do you want more from them? Somethimes these vaccines are given in such remote locations, doctors do travel kilometers by foot path to vaccinate the children. Field doctors checking for vulnerabilities is such a hilarious claim IMO.

    or they has to urge the ministry to import proper quality drugs. If not, how can people trust a Doctor if they are simply a set of puppets of the Health Minister?
    One doctor have absolutely no power to intervene in this matter (F**k the administration). GMOA has been dancing up and down for this since the sailine issue by Fowzie. But Nimal Siripala is such a headstrong and he wants his commision so much, these requests are fallen in deaf ears.

    And BTW, What is the reason for that death? Is it an Allergy or are they expired drugs?
    No one knows ATM. IMO, it's due to allergic reaction to the impurities in the vaccine. The producer of vaccine is liable for this, and the company (an Indian one) should be blacklisted for ever.
     

    deegopower

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    may be the vaccine was creating harmful antibodies within her body....normally for MMR its a live attenuated disease causing organisms are injected.......
    sometimes the dosage and the strength will judge the effect.......
    sometimes if the levels change they patient may show slight symptoms of the disease, but rarely can be fatal.......
    so it is the health ministry that should inspect.the imported vaccinations, but in this case there had been so many girls who fell ill, including the one that passed away......
    so i think its the vaccination , which was not of good quality......but then the fault is with the health ministry for importing such low quality medicine, and distributing them ,and for injecting them......
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    Sorry, now we don't take the hippoctratic oath. Because it's hypocratic by my religion. So no oath is given in the name of Apollo blah blah. (Yes, I was the first to refuse to give the oath at SLMC, and when I brought on the problem of religion, the authorities were shell-shocked as they could not force me to read it. But that's off topic.

    How? by tasting it? or putting it on a slide or examining under electron microscopy? There is a seperate drug monitoring authority to test those things (which is of couse run by set of doctors, affiliated there by the ministry). Ordinary doctor on the field does not have any means of testing these vulnerabilities. He only can get an allergic and epilepsy history of the patient and check the technical information on the pack to make sure it is not expired. What do you want more from them? Somethimes these vaccines are given in such remote locations, doctors do travel kilometers by foot path to vaccinate the children. Field doctors checking for vulnerabilities is such a hilarious claim IMO.

    One doctor have absolutely no power to intervene in this matter (F**k the administration). GMOA has been dancing up and down for this since the sailine issue by Fowzie. But Nimal Siripala is such a headstrong and he wants his commision so much, these requests are fallen in deaf ears.

    No one knows ATM. IMO, it's due to allergic reaction to the impurities in the vaccine. The producer of vaccine is liable for this, and the company (an Indian one) should be blacklisted for ever.

    Sorry if you misunderstood. I didn't mean the field doctor who was there that day was responsible. That would be insane, because he is just doing his duty. I was actually referring the doctors who check the quality of the medicine after importing (If there's any)

    So basically you are agreeing with my conclusion.
    • Doctors who are testing the medicine ("drug monitoring authority" in your words) are responsible.
    • Government is responsible ("deaf ears" in your words)
    • And the people who are producing the vaccine are responsible.
    True, Authorities should ban importations from that Indian company. At least there won't be incidents like this in the future then [hopefully]

    But what if, if it's a rare situation (due to that girl's gene structure or whatever) only that girl is allergic to that substance? Then everybody will do their work freely again right? I mean if Government really wants to have that Indian supplier for future deals, it's not really hard to cook up a scheme like that right? Especially with a backbone-less administration?
     

    Wal Bada

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  • x-pert said:
    But what if, if it's a rare situation (due to that girl's gene structure or whatever) only that girl is allergic to that substance? Then everybody will do their work freely again right? I mean if Government really wants to have that Indian supplier for future deals, it's not really hard to cook up a scheme like that right? Especially with a backbone-less administration?
    Those are called idiosyncratic reactions, and if that happens, it's no one's fault. But, 25+ girls have got allergic reactions out of 250 odd vaccine receivers, which is unacceptable (the media showing them as "Severely ill" is equally or more unacceptable than the first one). There has to be something wrong some where that to happen.

    In next few days some leading Consultants are going to audit the clinical results for various drugs in their practice. There will be more and more charges against the Minister against low quality drugs. Minister has accused doctors, and doctors are not holding it back. There will be plenty of information to flow regarding this matter, since it is an election time.