Why crows and donkeys are religious

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

9/11/2012
Bukhari (Book #54, Hadith #522)
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “When you hear the crowing of cocks, ask for Allah’s Blessings for (their crowing indicates that) they have seen an angel. And when you hear the braying of donkeys, seek Refuge with Allah from Satan for (their braying indicates) that they have seen a Satan.”


Muslim (Book #035, Hadith #6581)
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as say- ing. When you listen to the crowing of the cock, ask Allah for His favour as it sees Angels and when you listen to the braying of the donkey, seek refuge in Allah from the Satan for it sees Satan.

 

[bonney777]

Do you know, Human can hear some range of voice 20-20,000 Hz
But animals can hear more than that.

dog 67-45,000 cat 45-64,000 cow 23-35,000 horse 55-33,500 sheep 100-30,000 rabbit 360-42,000 rat 200-76,000 mouse 1,000-91,000 gerbil 100-60,000 guinea pig 54-50,000 hedgehog 250-45,000 raccoon 100-40,000 ferret 16-44,000 opossum 500-64,000 chinchilla 90-22,800 bat 2,000-110,000 beluga whale 1,000-123,000 elephant 16-12,000 porpoise 75-150,000 goldfish 20-3,000 catfish 50-4,000 tuna 50-1,100 bullfrog 100-3,000 tree frog 50-4,000 canary 250-8,000 parakeet 200-8,500 cockatiel 250-8,000 owl 200-12,000 chicken 125-2,000
So, they know something extra than what human hear, likewise every human organs are limited to some capacity.

Something known by animals are cannot be understand by human.

ex - at the time of Tsunami , all the animals were gone to safe area except animals which were in cages,inside walls ,pets. even the fishes also migrated to another places since we never saw fishes were thrown to the shore by tsunami..

So, animals have a chance to see angels and satan, since they have some extra capabilities than humans.

We humans are weak at all,

 

[ColdBreath]

Do you know, Human can hear some range of voice 20-20,000 Hz
But animals can hear more than that.

dog 67-45,000 cat 45-64,000 cow 23-35,000 horse 55-33,500 sheep 100-30,000 rabbit 360-42,000 rat 200-76,000 mouse 1,000-91,000 gerbil 100-60,000 guinea pig 54-50,000 hedgehog 250-45,000 raccoon 100-40,000 ferret 16-44,000 opossum 500-64,000 chinchilla 90-22,800 bat 2,000-110,000 beluga whale 1,000-123,000 elephant 16-12,000 porpoise 75-150,000 goldfish 20-3,000 catfish 50-4,000 tuna 50-1,100 bullfrog 100-3,000 tree frog 50-4,000 canary 250-8,000 parakeet 200-8,500 cockatiel 250-8,000 owl 200-12,000 chicken 125-2,000
So, they know something extra than what human hear, likewise every human organs are limited to some capacity.

Something known by animals are cannot be understand by human.

ex - at the time of Tsunami , all the animals were gone to safe area except animals which were in cages,inside walls ,pets. even the fishes also migrated to another places since we never saw fishes were thrown to the shore by tsunami..

So, animals have a chance to see angels and satan, since they have some extra capabilities than humans.

We humans are weak at all,

If a god made humans, why do you think that humans are made to be weak?

If humans are weak how can humans be the supreme creation of god?

If humans are not the supreme creation of god, then why does only humans worship god? and other much superior creations do not?

Concept of God creating world is a self contradicting one... no matter in which angle you look at it.

 

[bonney777]

If a god made humans, why do you think that humans are made to be weak?

If humans are weak how can humans be the supreme creation of god?

If humans are not the supreme creation of god, then why does only humans worship god? and other much superior creations do not?

Concept of God creating world is a self contradicting one... no matter in which angle you look at it.

If a god made humans, why do you think that humans are made to be weak?

GOD All-Mighty Allah created us in the world for a test. so, GOD made us with some limitations (weak). one day we will be gathered in front of GOD to receive our result which will be based on what we have done in the earth (good and bad things).


If humans are weak how can humans be the supreme creation of god?

sixth sense given to human


If humans are not the supreme creation of god, then why does only humans worship god? and other much superior creations do not?

Allah says in the Quran that each and every creation in this earth is praying almighty GOD Allah.


Concept of God creating world is a self contradicting one... no matter in which angle you look at it.

Allah says about the signs of day of judgment in the quran and through our prophet mohamed (s.a.w), and the end of world as well.

these signs are divided into 3 categories

1) signs which were already revealed
2) signs which are currently happening
3) signs which will happen in future

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?1651-50-Signs-of-the-Day-of-Judgment

all are happened and happening correctly, and future signs will also be happened correctly and are proved by science.

Please go through the Quran, just read and understand it for a knoledge, then you will realize that there is only one GOD and he is Al-Mighty Allah..

 

[ColdBreath]

If a god made humans, why do you think that humans are made to be weak?

GOD All-Mighty Allah created us in the world for a test. so, GOD made us with some limitations (weak). one day we will be gathered in front of GOD to receive our result which will be based on what we have done in the earth (good and bad things).

Why is God Testing us? What is the purpose of it?

If humans are weak how can humans be the supreme creation of god?

sixth sense given to human

sixth sense?
Don't you agree that the humans with, so called sixth sense have limited hearing, limited feel of smell, even limited feel of vibrations...?
While the animals without the sixth sense ran away and survived the Tsunami, humans with sixth sense, including the believers of Allah, were caught in the Tsunami and suffered a horrible death. So much for the sixth sense.

If humans are not the supreme creation of god, then why does only humans worship god? and other much superior creations do not?

Allah says in the Quran that each and every creation in this earth is praying almighty GOD Allah.

I only hear people praying 'Allah...'. I've never heard any other animal doing it. Not even a bird.

Concept of God creating world is a self contradicting one... no matter in which angle you look at it.

Allah says about the signs of day of judgment in the quran and through our prophet mohamed (s.a.w), and the end of world as well.

these signs are divided into 3 categories

1) signs which were already revealed
2) signs which are currently happening
3) signs which will happen in future

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?1651-50-Signs-of-the-Day-of-Judgment

all are happened and happening correctly, and future signs will also be happened correctly and are proved by science.

If God is almighty and knows everything, why do you need science? Why do you need medicine? Why do you need to do anything, other than praying. You should survive effortlessly. But yet you are working just like everyone else to earn a living, even though you pray to Allah.

If Allah is almighty, all knowing, kind and merciful;

Why did he made us non believers? God could have made us all believers of him. Yet he could not...

If all is god's will, then the non believers are god's will too. Who are you to convert them forcibly to any religion. Aren't you going against your own god's will?

Why to you have to cut off the your foreskin of your penis? God could have made you without it. Yet you are born with it...

If all is god's will, and god is all merciful how come there are so many diseases? most of them which cause terrible suffering to all those who are caught it? How can a merciful god do that to his own creation?

If all things are created by god, then why did he create diseases like HIV, Ebola, Cholera, Malaria... etc.? Since they make humans and animals suffer, haven't god betrayed his own creation, and the faith you have placed in god by creating those things which you suffer?

Why did god created Haram things? If he simply did not created Haram things and created only Halal things, you will not have to check for Halal or Haram. Life would have been simple and you and god both would have been happy. Then why do you have Halal and Haram?

How can your own god ask you to kill his own creation if it is a non believer? Why did he made a non believer in the first place? How can you kill a non believer, isn't he a creation of your god? and don't you think you are going over your god by killing the non believer?

The list goes on... every question leads to another question and every answer leads to another 1000 questions...

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

Do you know, Human can hear some range of voice 20-20,000 Hz
But animals can hear more than that.

dog 67-45,000 cat 45-64,000 cow 23-35,000 horse 55-33,500 sheep 100-30,000 rabbit 360-42,000 rat 200-76,000 mouse 1,000-91,000 gerbil 100-60,000 guinea pig 54-50,000 hedgehog 250-45,000 raccoon 100-40,000 ferret 16-44,000 opossum 500-64,000 chinchilla 90-22,800 bat 2,000-110,000 beluga whale 1,000-123,000 elephant 16-12,000 porpoise 75-150,000 goldfish 20-3,000 catfish 50-4,000 tuna 50-1,100 bullfrog 100-3,000 tree frog 50-4,000 canary 250-8,000 parakeet 200-8,500 cockatiel 250-8,000 owl 200-12,000 chicken 125-2,000
So, they know something extra than what human hear, likewise every human organs are limited to some capacity.

Something known by animals are cannot be understand by human.

ex - at the time of Tsunami , all the animals were gone to safe area except animals which were in cages,inside walls ,pets. even the fishes also migrated to another places since we never saw fishes were thrown to the shore by tsunami..

So, animals have a chance to see angels and satan, since they have some extra capabilities than humans.

We humans are weak at all,

This is the level of "intelligence" we have to deal with.
Just throwing some UNRELATED facts of animal hearing-range and imagining that associating these unrelated facts with stupid HADITHs will convince an average reader.

I hear Crowing of cocks everyday most at dirty places and garbage cans! probably Angels reside in those places. And just imagine how many angels are seen through out the world -probably Angel-population is more than human population

by the way why post hearing range of animals when HADITH say "Animals SEE"? Can animals see through their ear-drum

Do You Know that Most Animals are unable to differentiate colour and most see in black white??

 

[bonney777]

Why is God Testing us? What is the purpose of it?

To give Heaven or Hell according to our good and bad deals

sixth sense?
Don't you agree that the humans with, so called sixth sense have limited hearing, limited feel of smell, even limited feel of vibrations...?
While the animals without the sixth sense ran away and survived the Tsunami, humans with sixth sense, including the believers of Allah, were caught in the Tsunami and suffered a horrible death. So much for the sixth sense.

You don't have idea about sense,
these are the 6 senses -
1) sight 2) hearing 3)taste 4)smell 5)touch 6) propreoception. I mean the final one propreoception.

I only hear people praying 'Allah...'. I've never heard any other animal doing it. Not even a bird.

because, humans can only understand human language, voice and actions. So, we humans don't know that how they pray. but Allah says in the Qur'an that they are praying.

If God is almighty and knows everything, why do you need science? Why do you need medicine? Why do you need to do anything, other than praying. You should survive effortlessly. But yet you are working just like everyone else to earn a living, even though you pray to Allah.

our every actions will be a good one or bad one. if you earning in legal way, that will be counted as a good deal and if earn in illegal way (smuggling,stealing,etc) that will be counted as bad deal. likewise Allah
watching our each and every actions. prayer is must. but NOT only the prayer is a good deal, if you care your family well that is also a good deal, if you don't care your family well, that will be a bad actions.

In Arabic we tell good deals as HALAL and bad deals as HARAM

Islam NOT telling us to do prayers each seconds, but telling to do good deals in every part of your life..

Dear Coldbreath and Ex_muslim Ahmed..

I don't come here to argue with.
I believe that there is one GOD and that is Almighty ALLAH.

There is only one proof to existence of GOD, that is Qur'an.
I have read and understood the Qur'an, and that is a Miracle and it is surely from a GOD.
So, i believe all the things in Qur'an, in Qur'an ALLAH says he is the GOD.

one example i can point out here..
when you were in your mother's womb, did u think that you will have a world outside and you will get birth in the world? but there is a world and you born. like wise i believe that there is another world (heaven / hell) and we will get birth there when we die in this world..


If you are NOT beveling GOD and if there is NO GOD, you will be safe,
If you are NOT beleving GOD and if there is a GOD then you will be punished.

If you are beveling GOD and if there is NO GOD, you will be safe,
If you are beveling GOD and if there is a GOD then you will be safe.

and finally think that why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and why many people converting to Islam....

 

[Hettiarachi]

well replied bonney777!!!

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

Dear Coldbreath and Ex_muslim Ahmed..

I don't come here to argue with.
I believe that there is one GOD and that is Almighty ALLAH.

There is only one proof to existence of GOD, that is Qur'an.
I have read and understood the Qur'an, and that is a Miracle and it is surely from a GOD.
So, i believe all the things in Qur'an, in Qur'an ALLAH says he is the GOD.

one example i can point out here..
when you were in your mother's womb, did u think that you will have a world outside and you will get birth in the world? but there is a world and you born. like wise i believe that there is another world (heaven / hell) and we will get birth there when we die in this world..


If you are NOT beveling GOD and if there is NO GOD, you will be safe,
If you are NOT beleving GOD and if there is a GOD then you will be punished.

If you are beveling GOD and if there is NO GOD, you will be safe,
If you are beveling GOD and if there is a GOD then you will be safe.

and finally think that why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and why many people converting to Islam....

I hope you grow some brains. Of course you cant even dream about arguing with me. What a load of crap you have written. Islam is fastest growing because the idiots breed like rabbits without any regard for the world population and complete disregard for the children of their own. I wonder any person with a functioning brain would convert to Islam- if some one is converting to Islam i am sure he is probably brain dead.

like you who believes that animals worship and pray to Allah

 

[bonney777]

Thanks Hettiarachi..


I came across another scientific reason which might make the above hadhees true.

The ability of the human visual system is limited and different from the
visual capacity of the donkeys, which in turn differ in their capacity as
the ability of the visual of cocks.

Thus, the ability of human vision is limited, not to see what is under the
red rays and over the UV radiation. But the ability of cocks and
donkeys are more than that.

The question here is.. How can the donkey and the cock sees and the
demons and angels.

1. The donkey can view the red rays, and the devil, one of the committees created from the fire so, from the infra-red of the opinion
that donkey does not see angels, but see the devil.

2. The cocks view through UV radiation, and the angels created from
light, so from the UV rays, so the cocks can see angels.

• This explains why does the demons escape when we remembrance
of Allah.
The reason is this: The angels came to the place of God is
mentioned.. Devils escaped.
• Why do the devils escape in the presence of the angels?
The answer: because the devils to be harmed by the light of the
angels.

In other words:
If UV rays met with infrared rays in one place, the red rays will disappears.

Who told Muhammad, God''s blessings and peace is upon him, of all this scientific information 1400 years ago.



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[bonney777]

I hope you grow some brains. Of course you cant even dream about arguing with me. What a load of crap you have written. Islam is fastest growing because the idiots breed like rabbits without any regard for the world population and complete disregard for the children of their own. I wonder any person with a functioning brain would convert to Islam- if some one is converting to Islam i am sure he is probably brain dead.

like you who believes that animals worship and pray to Allah

Reffer the Guiness book and see "The fastest growing religion is Islam" in every year..
Go to youtube and see how many people converting to Islam daily
(search "converting to islam" in youtube)

Brother not only Animals but also plants and all the creations in the world pray Allah..

You believe that plants has a life. do you see how it breath?
you believe that bats and vampires has no eyes and using rays to fly,do you see the rays?

you believe many thing which you don't see, don't touch, don't hear, etc..

Likewise Animals and other creations praying in some way wich cannot be seen by humans ..

 

[Hettiarachi]

Well Bonney777, replying to ex-muslim ahmed is a waste..He is such a fool that he will never understand anything, every time the proper answer is given, he used to ignore that and talking something nonsense..got great experiences with this guy whose brain is really dead..so you need not waste the time on this guy's comment.

 

[bonney777]

Well Bonney777, replying to ex-muslim ahmed is a waste..He is such a fool that he will never understand anything, every time the proper answer is given, he used to ignore that and talking something nonsense..got great experiences with this guy whose brain is really dead..so you need not waste the time on this guy's comment.

Yes you are 100% right... He will realize the truth at the day of judgment..