Why we Fight

Taken out of My Great Chum, Suchetha's blog...

I don't know you fuckers can "read and Understand" .. but it's a great article if you wanna talk about it :-)

Why we fight
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In any conflict - be it between nations, peoples, organisations, whatever - there is always a level of propaganda and demagoguery involved. I'm sure you have heard at least SOME of these ones..

* We're fighting for our rights, our freedoms
* We are fighting to bring democracy to these poor people
* We're fighting to maintain our territorial integrity
* We're fighting, comrade, to bring the glories of communism to the people

But have you ever asked yourself what we are REALLY fighting for? Or why ANYONE fights? Maybe some of the truths that you hear would not be so pleasant then.

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We're fighting so that the politicians can have their kids in school in the US or UK

It is a known fact that Prabhakaran's kids and many other minister's, prime minister's, presidents and various other politicians' kids are in various western countries. Safe and sound, far away from any fighting. They go to school, they have a good time. Meanwhile, kids from the border villages are dying. Poor kids, who have joined into a fight they have no stake in. Drawn in by demagoguery, promises of a better life, a thirst for revenge, a feeling they are doing the "right thing", forced in by threats and coercion, why they fight doesn't matter. The fact remains that they are fighting while those who send them off to fight are having a good time
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We are fighting for power

Nothing gives a politician a hardon like knowing that he has power. Why do you think they destroyed the civil services commission, and the police commission? You WANT to have people coming to you, begging and pleading with you to do something for them. One thing I remember quite well was Gamini Lokuge sitting in his office distributing liquor licences. It was both frightening and fascinating. There he was, not quite so corpulent as Jabba the Hutt, but the odor of corruption was the same. There are possibly many in that same vein over in the north too. People whose only goal in life is to make up for a lack of power by grabbing power from someone else. And if money and power are the ultimate aphrodisiacs, imagine what kind of power the ability to send someone to their deaths is. I think you get bonus points if they not only go willingly, but also line up to go

But this is not the only power that exists. Let us not forget the power that comes from governing. The LTTE and the LKGOV are both fighting for one thing. The right to control the northern and eastern province, and by extension the people who live there. They are just a bone that is being fought over by two dogs, and at the end of the day, no matter who wins, the bone will get chewed on
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We're fighting for oil

Now this may seem like a direct stab at the Americans. After all they have a long tradition for exchanging "democracy" for oil. But this is becoming a part of the dotelkay mindset as well. There is reason to believe that there is oil available under the eastern coast. If this were the case, with the rising cost of oil, dotelkay would be a very strong financial and global position. It is one of the last untapped oil resources in the world.

But it doesn't matter if it doesn't exist. The perception IS the reality. And that is enough for both sides to start cutting deals with various nations in order to get what they want. Whether the dotelkay populace will see any of that money except for what falls to the ground on the way to the swiss coffers is debatable.
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We're fighting for money

From the arms buyers in the army who charge as much as 60% in commissions, to the politicians who approve the deals in exchange for a cut. From the "tax collectors" who come and tell you that if you don't cough up some "donations" you and your loved ones will not be safe to the bag men who transfer the cash to the necessary locations. The LTTE, the LKGOV, the private sector, the middle men, the "facilitators", they are all here to make money. In the US and other countries, its called the "military industrial complex", the wonderful people who charge USD900 for a hammer and USD2500 for a toilet seat. The ones who push governments to buying newer and better (ok maybe not better) hardware. That topples governments and countries for their own profit.

They all want to make money. The guys who started the Access company here in dotelkay were middlemen in the arms trade. Now they are everywhere. They made a lot of money, and made a lot of other people very prosperous in the process. Does anyone actually believe that the millions that were seized from Ratwatte's account was his own money? Or that it was more than a drop in the bucket he collected as Minister of Defence?

The war stopped in 2002 because the country was broke. We ran out of money. The LTTE stopped fighting because there was too much heat on them from outside. Even now, the A9 is closed in order to deny revenue (esimated at LKR3,000,000) to the LTTE. It is hard to fight a war when there is no money for bullets.

But there is always money for commissions.

And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for? We fight for our politicians and our demagogues. We fight for the priests and warmongers who are so willing to attack a peace rally made up of civillians, but are not willing to go to the front. We are fighting for the wonderful people who say, "yes we should fight, and we should hit them hard, take it all the way to Kilinochchi. Oh me? No I couldn't join the army, if all of us did that who would guard the south?" We are fighting for those who say, "if Eelam were granted, Jaffna would become the Singapore of South Asia. No, no, I wouldn't be able to leave my job and my life here in Canada, but I think it would be wonderful for those who do go back."

Yes, i have heard both statements. It has always been the case, old men send the young to die. The rich send the poor to die. The pragmatists send the idealists to die. Or worse, to come back crippled either on the inside or the outside. Remember folks, the one who is shouting "forward! to death or glory" is the one behind the rock and wearing the only really arrow-proof helmet. There is an important word in that phrase and it is not "glory".

General Patton once said, "Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." Short, pithy, and to the point. But it can be taken another way too. We are working at winning the war. But we're not dying for our country. We're making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country. The shame of it is, it is also ours.
 

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well said bro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1UnhPq8Pio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArqcfDhHg9o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvG5mPaTTj4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdg8AgweIgI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgVQtCiMHz4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1EabzDfvIo
i am Tamil i know wat happen to us in Jaffna i suffered from srilankan terror but u guys want know abt that because Sinhala papers are in the politicians pockets. We are not against to Sinhala community my best friends are Singhalese they are good friends of mine .but I don’t know y u guys are not ready to give the Tamils rights or stop killing Tamils but sl politician

i lost my 1 sister and my 4 cousins in srilankan air strike in Jaffna but i don’t want to bleam in all Sinhala people in srilanka u guys are indecent but sl politician are bad they need to be in the power so they need ethnic conflict in srilanka that’s it

what is terror is there any definition for that if u say if any one kill some one if u call that guy as terrorist .obviously srilankan armed forces also terrorist .because i knew what happened in north and east in srilanka and i saw everything

Don’t laugh at me guys i don’t know how TV is works or how electricity works until my 14 years age. This is a fact there because of the racist political people

and how many of u know 2000 army died in mulativu in 95.i can prove that in video’s guys don’t know these news because of stupid srilankan media

ok guys judge my feelings in ur mind and I am asking just to understand Tamils problem and give a respects to our feelings. I would say ltte is only one for Tamils because they died for us. I am respecting them in my whole life
 

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    I think you better stop this , we will treat you as a brother , but dont try to say that thing is correct . THEY ARE TERRORISTS
     

    eelaalan

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    ya thats ur problem my friend but in ur view ur saying terrorist but in my way they are freadem fighters it mat vary person to person

    for u ltte is terrorist for me sla is terrorist because they killed my brothers and my sisiter .so how can i call sla man.please understand my problem in my situation i dont want to argue eho is terrorist and who are not my point is understand my sittuation
     

    madusha.ac

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    Yeah machan I Can understand your feelings BUT I Know Many Sinhala People Like U , They Lost Their Family Members Because Of Your Freedom Fighters
     

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    eelaalan said:
    ya they did but not as civilians machan

    thanks for ur understandings


    I AM SORRY.. BUT NO MATE.. YOUR 'SO CALLED' FREEDOM FIGHTERS HAVE KILLED A LOT OF INNOCENT SINHALA PEOPLE. THATS WHY WE ALL HATE LTTE... NOT ONLY US BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF MY TAMIL FRIENDS WHO HATE LTTE A LOT MATE.
     

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    eelaalan said:
    i am Tamil i know wat happen to us in Jaffna i suffered from srilankan terror but u guys want know abt that because Sinhala papers are in the politicians pockets. We are not against to Sinhala community my best friends are Singhalese they are good friends of mine .but I don’t know y u guys are not ready to give the Tamils rights or stop killing Tamils but sl politician

    i lost my 1 sister and my 4 cousins in srilankan air strike in Jaffna but i don’t want to bleam in all Sinhala people in srilanka u guys are indecent but sl politician are bad they need to be in the power so they need ethnic conflict in srilanka that’s it

    what is terror is there any definition for that if u say if any one kill some one if u call that guy as terrorist .obviously srilankan armed forces also terrorist .because i knew what happened in north and east in srilanka and i saw everything

    Don’t laugh at me guys i don’t know how TV is works or how electricity works until my 14 years age. This is a fact there because of the racist political people

    and how many of u know 2000 army died in mulativu in 95.i can prove that in video’s guys don’t know these news because of stupid srilankan media

    ok guys judge my feelings in ur mind and I am asking just to understand Tamils problem and give a respects to our feelings. I would say ltte is only one for Tamils because they died for us. I am respecting them in my whole life


    OKAY.. NOW LETS PUT IT LIKE THIS...

    Machang, we dont call our forces as freedom fighters. Coz we have the freedom to do anything. But tamils.... YES OF COURSE... they too have the same freedom we have. Is there anythin you cant do in Sri Lanka just because you are a tamil...

    No my friend no.... Then why do you need a freedom fighter....???

    Just coz of the political reasons... All the politicians are same dude.. Sinhala or Tamil they all want their business to grow and to earn something....

    Do you think if we ask Pirabaharan why they fight, will he have an answer..??

    As a person with a military background (Not in SL ;)) I know that, to begin a war there are 3 reasons.
    1. Money
    2. Land
    3. A woman.

    So now this LTTE people wants a part of the land.. But why...???
    Do the Tamils only live in that area...

    Eventhough you call them as freedom fighters, do they really want the freedom..... ???

    Think about it mate... Dont you have the freedom now. Then how can you simply question this in a sri lankan forum...?

    Thats coz we are a one family friend... one family... sinhala, tamil, burghur, hindu, islam, catholic... people with all these backgrounds are in here and they all are friends... So why do the Tamils want a freedom when they have it fully....

    Sri Lankan forces never kill innocent tamil people. I know that very well.... But if they have a doubt or a suspiscion, then they will... Thats the rule of war and not only our forces but LTTE also does it.

    I really respect you brother, Coz you dint start bullshit like the other LTTE supporters about the cricke match and all.. But you directly mentioned your view. Thats cool...

    BUT.. Think about it mate.. Do you need a freedom when you have it... You all can come to colombo anytime. But we... we cant go to Jaffna. In our country we cant go anywhere we want. So then we really want a freedom fighter, isn't it machang...

    Now think as an intelligent person, (I know you are) and tell me who is doing the wrong thing here... Dont think in the frame, where you hate the forces coz they killed your loved ones. But think out-of-the-box. Who knows wether your sister and cousins had a connection with LTTE. you will never ever know if they had something like that bro.

    You all have the freedom more than we do.... So do you really want a freedom fighter..... Is LTTE a freedom fighter... hell no mate....!!!!

    SO BE A SRI LANKAN....... AND I HOPE YOU ARE ALSO PROUD TO BE A SRI LANKAN AS WE ALL DO...!!!

    THIS IS ELAKIRI.... AND ONLY SRI LANKANS ARE HERE.... :D :D

    WELCOME TO EK. I FORGOT TO WISH YOU YESTERDAY.... :lol: :lol:
     

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    Thanks mate...

    you have PMd me some pictures... yeah I beleive they are horrible... Lot of people have been killed by some one....

    But I am sorry to say, I cant figure out wether they were done by our forces or LTTE caders...

    Coz I have a hell of a lot pictures like that... even not in Jaffna area but in Colombo... done by suicide terrorists.. Machang life is a gift from god...
    Sorry I cant even try to send those pictures coz there is no server with the capacity to store those pictures...

    All the dead people in your photos are Sri Lankan people killed by bullets and bombs...

    So you also try to be a sri lankan not just a tamil racist...
    (BTW thanx for the pics. Those were really done by LTTE. That I know very well)
     

    eelaalan

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    ok machan u hav fredom but v didnt get freedom yet.if v hav freedom
    1.y they burned jaffna library
    2. y is the 56 riots and 83 july riots
    3.y only one official languge is sinhala
    4.y they killed our famlies

    machan i like to say one thing ltte never ever went to fight for whomens or land or money

    hav u ever any ltte members raped a single singala girl or tamil girl no but sla did
    kirishanthi do u know here 7 sla members raped her in 96 she is from my village in jaffna

    Eventhough you call them as freedom fighters, do they really want the freedom..... ???
    ofcource they need fredom thats y they fight for that.they will achive that one soon

    Sri Lankan forces never kill innocent tamil people. I know that very well.... But if they have a doubt or a suspiscion, then they will... Thats the rule of war and not only our forces but LTTE also does it.
    see the photos of them
    http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27130&page=3
    http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27130&page=2

    BUT.. Think about it mate.. Do you need a freedom when you have it... You all can come to colombo anytime. But we... we cant go to Jaffna. In our country we cant go anywhere we want. So then we really want a freedom fighter, isn't it machang...

    machan i never had freedom in srilanka when i was in srilanka i couldnt even go out because i scared i may arrested and ill be in jail.when i went to srilanka last march i was arrested for nathing and spend 3 days in wellawatha police station for nathing.
    then only i decided i wont go to srilanka any more until every problem is solved i after that insident i never want to go
    i feel srilanka is not my country obviosly u will feel this if u put ur self in my situation
    Who knows wether your sister and cousins had a connection with LTTE
    ya man 5 year old sister have connection with ltte and under 10 years of old my cousins had connection with ltte v lost all 5 in same place in a airsrike
    not only my family most of the people in my village have this problem

    You all have the freedom more than we do.... So do you really want a freedom fighter..... Is LTTE a freedom fighter... hell no mate....!!!!

    SO BE A SRI LANKAN....... AND I HOPE YOU ARE ALSO PROUD TO BE A SRI LANKAN AS WE ALL DO...!!!

    i like to proude to be srilankan but i never feel like that.as i said before u guys can go to srilanka for holiday but i cant even i couldnt go to my country[then what is freedom]

    i did only one wrong thing mate that is i born as a tamil in srilanka this is my feeling not just words
     

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    Thanks mate...

    you have PMd me some pictures... yeah I beleive they are horrible... Lot of people have been killed by some one....

    But I am sorry to say, I cant figure out wether they were done by our forces or LTTE caders...

    Coz I have a hell of a lot pictures like that... even not in Jaffna area but in Colombo... done by suicide terrorists.. Machang life is a gift from god...
    Sorry I cant even try to send those pictures coz there is no server with the capacity to store those pictures...

    All the dead people in your photos are Sri Lankan people killed by bullets and bombs...

    So you also try to be a sri lankan not just a tamil racist...
    (BTW thanx for the pics. Those were really done by LTTE. That I know very well)
    how can u say those are not done by sla all those killed by air srikes and artlery attacks but ur saying
    BTW thanx for the pics. Those were really done by LTTE. That I know very well
    how do u know those done by ltte same here dude i have more pics but realy horrible some pic in my mind because i saw those from my eyes dude in jaffna

    thanks machan for nice talk i realy want this from u guys:cool:
     

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    x pert, no wonder why these sri lankan ministers stills existing.... hehehehehehehhhehehehe until you and your friends realise that the way you think are wrong.... sri lanka will never become as it was before 1980. until then we call you moddu singalavan, you call us para thamilan.....

    infact you never know abt jaffna tamils... having known about labour tamils only u named all the tamils.
     

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    where you don't live!
    we will never get freedom if we keep on fighting! that is what i think, how will there be freedom, if people are getting killed, and it doesnt matter what ras, it's all human lives.
    People who kill other people are terrorists, they are not good people, u can say 'yah he kill ma family, so i will kill his family', that won't solve the problem, then this killing will go on forever, isn't that what we DON'T want!! All we want is FREEDOM. We will never get freedom if we keep on killing eachother!!
     

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    oya lnakawen pita inna eun hithanne methala sinhala tamil waliyak kiyala. moda haththa big wolf pacha goni pitin gahanawa. oya asutralia wala inna eunui canada wala inna haththai mehe awilla balanda oona mokada wenne kiyala p***a kotiyek ge p**a lewakanda yanney netuwa
     

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    sen said:
    x pert, no wonder why these sri lankan ministers stills existing.... hehehehehehehhhehehehe until you and your friends realise that the way you think are wrong.... sri lanka will never become as it was before 1980. until then we call you moddu singalavan, you call us para thamilan.....

    infact you never know abt jaffna tamils... having known about labour tamils only u named all the tamils.

    meka mona gonek da manda. mage cousin la dennekma tamils la marry karala inney. umba enawa mata kiyala denda. umba koheda inne?? umabat waysa keeyada.
     

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    oya lnakawen pita inna eun hithanne methala sinhala tamil waliyak kiyala. moda haththa big wolf pacha goni pitin gahanawa. oya asutralia wala inna eunui canada wala inna haththai mehe awilla balanda oona mokada wenne kiyala p***a kotiyek ge p**a lewakanda yanney netuwa


    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

    LAnkaawe adiyak notiyapu ewun lankawe apita bana kiyanawa.Umba hari machan.
     

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    meka mona gonek da manda. mage cousin la dennekma tamils la marry karala inney. umba enawa mata kiyala denda. umba koheda inne?? umabat waysa keeyada.



    thats right....my mam tamil(Ranjani) but dad sinhala .....so do i have any trouble ......dont i love sri lanka as i drank milk of a tamil mam .....no ....sri lanka is my life for sure im ready to die for it some one might say just easy to say but i ll say i ll do even if hard....we both have got mistakes so we should try to get out of them.....fuc*ing ltte just need to show off they are the real tamil re presenters i ve been in canada i ve been in czech republic i ve been in brazil i ve been in uk .....tamils who havent even been to jaffna keep on sounding we are neglected by sri lankan majority how can they say like that without even stepping on this golden land....but they dont even think to visit there mother land even if there is no such racial problem...because they just barks from the tuning of ltte they are just paray dogs who has no warmth in there heart what country they belong to what nation they should work for.......thats alll we all from same blood and flesh if there is a different how it would be.....becuae i ve both sinhala and tamil blood in me
     

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    thats right....my mam tamil(Ranjani) but dad sinhala .....so do i have any trouble ......dont i love sri lanka as i drank milk of a tamil mam .....no ....sri lanka is my life for sure im ready to die for it some one might say just easy to say but i ll say i ll do even if hard....we both have got mistakes so we should try to get out of them.....fuc*ing ltte just need to show off they are the real tamil re presenters i ve been in canada i ve been in czech republic i ve been in brazil i ve been in uk .....tamils who havent even been to jaffna keep on sounding we are neglected by sri lankan majority how can they say like that without even stepping on this golden land....but they dont even think to visit there mother land even if there is no such racial problem...because they just barks from the tuning of ltte they are just paray dogs who has no warmth in there heart what country they belong to what nation they should work for.......thats alll we all from same blood and flesh if there is a different how it would be.....becuae i ve both sinhala and tamil blood in me


    WELL DONE BRO... WELL SAID... :yes: :yes: :yes:
     

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    thats right....my mam tamil(Ranjani) but dad sinhala .....so do i have any trouble ......dont i love sri lanka as i drank milk of a tamil mam .....no ....sri lanka is my life for sure im ready to die for it some one might say just easy to say but i ll say i ll do even if hard....we both have got mistakes so we should try to get out of them.....fuc*ing ltte just need to show off they are the real tamil re presenters i ve been in canada i ve been in czech republic i ve been in brazil i ve been in uk .....tamils who havent even been to jaffna keep on sounding we are neglected by sri lankan majority how can they say like that without even stepping on this golden land....but they dont even think to visit there mother land even if there is no such racial problem...because they just barks from the tuning of ltte they are just paray dogs who has no warmth in there heart what country they belong to what nation they should work for.......thats alll we all from same blood and flesh if there is a different how it would be.....becuae i ve both sinhala and tamil blood in me


    Mr bro man, how many years have you lived in Jaffna and faced the war? you have no elegibility to talk abt the ethnic war bro man...
     

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    sen said:
    Mr bro man, how many years have you lived in Jaffna and faced the war? you have no elegibility to talk abt the ethnic war bro man...
    ANE

    PALAYAN DO YANNA PO*** KA** WES*** PUTHA....