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saharaz said:
Da’wah is a duty of every single MUSLIMS
Most Muslims know that Islam is a universal religion, meant for all mankind.
Allah (swt) is the Lord of the entire Universe, and Muslims have been entrusted
with the duty of conveying His message to all mankind. Alas, most Muslims
today have become callous towards this duty! While accepting Islam as the best
way of life for ourselves, most of us are unwilling to share this knowledge with
those to whom the message has not yet been conveyed.
The Arabic word Da’wah means a call or an invitation. In Islamic context, it
means to strive for the propagation of Islam.
The Glorious Qur’an says:
“Ah! Who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they
have from Allah? But Allah is not unmindful of what ye do!”
[Al-Qur’an 2:140]
In order to convey the message of Islam, dialogue and debate become
inevitable. The Glorious Qur’an says:
“Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord, with wisdom and beautiful
preaching, and argue with them in ways that are best and most
gracious!”
[Al-Qur’an 16:125]
In conveying the message of Islam to a non-Muslim, it is usually not sufficient to highlight only the positive nature of Islam. Most non-Muslims are not convinced about the truth of Islam because there are a few questions about Islam at the back of their minds that remain unanswered.They may agree with your contentions about the positive nature of Islam. But,in the same breath, they will say - “Ah! But you are the same Muslims who marry more than one woman. You are the same people who subjugate women by keeping them behind the veil. You are fundamentalists, etc.”
I personally prefer asking the non-Muslims upfront, with their limited
knowledge, whether right or wrong, from whichever source it may be, what they feel is wrong in Islam. I encourage them to be very frank and open and convince them that I can take criticism about Islam.

Yah true enough, but there is a way of doing things ne machan, it doesnt suit here coz at the end it'll be thread full of racism. Let the people who think outside think abt this. and there are people who'll never think out of the box. Monawa kiwwath waradi..So its just useless proving these things to them. So its bettr to avoid.

Just my opinion.
 

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Yah true enough, but there is a way of doing things ne machan, it doesnt suit here coz at the end it'll be thread full of racism. Let the people who think outside think abt this. and there are people who'll never think out of the box. Monawa kiwwath waradi..So its just useless proving these things to them. So its bettr to avoid.

Just my opinion.


DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE COMMENTS OF FEW ATHIEST, THE THING IS GOOD LOT OF NON MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE MAKING GAIN OF THIS KIND OF ARGUEMENTS AND DEBATES. THEY WILL COMPARE THE DIFFERENCE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT IF YOU CAN TRY TO HELP THEM BY SUPPORTING TO ISLAM TO ERRADICATE THE MISCONCEPTION OF ISLAM LIKE OTHER MUSLIM MEMBERS DO, IF NOT PLEASE :dull:
 

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There is no evidence there, just a bunch of opinions.


The concept of a Supreme Creator of the universe has been something, which the western world has been trying to prove or refute now for thousands of years. However, only in the past 200 years have the creme de la creme of western intellectuals, come to the conclusion that a God/Creator of the universe is and has been a figment of mans imagination. This conclusion was formed as a reaction to the beliefs and practices of Christianity, which was a major force in European life at this time. Beliefs such as that of the Trinity and the divine nature of Jesus Christ, were so complicated to understand - even for the elite of the church - that eventually the idea of a supreme and perfect creator (which Christianity had distorted) was replaced by many new theories which tried to explain how mankind came about and developed. Many different theories were introduced to the western world, but one common trait, which they all shared, was that there was no Supreme force, which governed the universe.
So where does Islam come into all of this? Islam is the one way of life, the one religion which until now has not been challenged successfully by any philosopher, atheist or intellectual. Rather the case has been the exact opposite and there have been thousands, if not millions, of so-called 'atheists' who have reverted back to Islam. So how does Islam explain the existence of this Supreme Creator?

The Natural Way

The Beauty of creation
Allaah says in the Qur'aan:
"Verily in the creation of the heavens and the earth, in the alternation of night and day, in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of the people, in the water which Allaah sends down from the skies reviving with it the dead earth and dispersing over it all kinds of beasts, in the change of the winds, and in the clouds that run their appointed courses between heaven and earth: In all of this, indeed there are signs for people of understanding."
(Surah Al-Baqarah 2:164)
 

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saharaz said:
Yah true enough, but there is a way of doing things ne machan, it doesnt suit here coz at the end it'll be thread full of racism. Let the people who think outside think abt this. and there are people who'll never think out of the box. Monawa kiwwath waradi..So its just useless proving these things to them. So its bettr to avoid.

Just my opinion.


DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE COMMENTS OF FEW ATHIEST, THE THING IS GOOD LOT OF NON MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE MAKING GAIN OF THIS KIND OF ARGUEMENTS AND DEBATES. THEY WILL COMPARE THE DIFFERENCE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT IF YOU CAN TRY TO HELP THEM BY SUPPORTING TO ISLAM TO ERRADICATE THE MISCONCEPTION OF ISLAM LIKE OTHER MUSLIM MEMBERS DO, IF NOT PLEASE :dull:

Hehe no worries, you carry on.;)Masha Allah.
 

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saharaz said:
The concept of a Supreme Creator of the universe has been something, which the western world has been trying to prove or refute now for thousands of years. However, only in the past 200 years have the creme de la creme of western intellectuals, come to the conclusion that a God/Creator of the universe is and has been a figment of mans imagination. This conclusion was formed as a reaction to the beliefs and practices of Christianity, which was a major force in European life at this time. Beliefs such as that of the Trinity and the divine nature of Jesus Christ, were so complicated to understand - even for the elite of the church - that eventually the idea of a supreme and perfect creator (which Christianity had distorted) was replaced by many new theories which tried to explain how mankind came about and developed. Many different theories were introduced to the western world, but one common trait, which they all shared, was that there was no Supreme force, which governed the universe.
So where does Islam come into all of this? Islam is the one way of life, the one religion which until now has not been challenged successfully by any philosopher, atheist or intellectual. Rather the case has been the exact opposite and there have been thousands, if not millions, of so-called 'atheists' who have reverted back to Islam. So how does Islam explain the existence of this Supreme Creator?

The Natural Way

The Beauty of creation
Allaah says in the Qur'aan:
"Verily in the creation of the heavens and the earth, in the alternation of night and day, in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of the people, in the water which Allaah sends down from the skies reviving with it the dead earth and dispersing over it all kinds of beasts, in the change of the winds, and in the clouds that run their appointed courses between heaven and earth: In all of this, indeed there are signs for people of understanding."
(Surah Al-Baqarah 2:164)
woow machaa allah keep on posting bro :D
 

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saharaz said:
Yah true enough, but there is a way of doing things ne machan, it doesnt suit here coz at the end it'll be thread full of racism. Let the people who think outside think abt this. and there are people who'll never think out of the box. Monawa kiwwath waradi..So its just useless proving these things to them. So its bettr to avoid.

Just my opinion.


DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE COMMENTS OF FEW ATHIEST, THE THING IS GOOD LOT OF NON MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE MAKING GAIN OF THIS KIND OF ARGUEMENTS AND DEBATES. THEY WILL COMPARE THE DIFFERENCE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT IF YOU CAN TRY TO HELP THEM BY SUPPORTING TO ISLAM TO ERRADICATE THE MISCONCEPTION OF ISLAM LIKE OTHER MUSLIM MEMBERS DO, IF NOT PLEASE :dull:


that's true machanz good lot of non muslims benefits this kind of arguements and they are getting a chance to compare the religions so keep it bro........
 

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THE SWORD OF ISLAM

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[SIZE=+1]VIOLENCE IN THE KORAN AND THE BIBLE (very long, but, worthwile)[/SIZE]

VIOLENCE IN THE KORAN AND THE BIBLE
THE TEACHING OF ISLAM ABOUT JIHAD OR THE FIGHTING FOR THE CAUSE OF ALLAH
THE SWORD OF ISLAM
The first few who embraced the "new" religion in Makkah in the Arabian Peninsula at the hands of the Prophet, were his wife Khadijah, his servant Zaid and his eleven year old cousin Ali. Among the ones who later joined this faith were the honest merchant, Abu Bakr; the iron man of Arabia, Umar the Great; the shy businessman, Uthman; the Prophet's brave uncle Hamza and a slave of a pagan, Bilal. They simply couldn't resist the MAGIC SWORD of a humble and lonely Prophet? The negligible minority of the believers in this new Faith was soon exiled from Makkah and they arrived in the city called Yathreb which later became known as MADINAH. The Muslim emigrants to Madinah brought their SWORD with them. The SWORD continued to work and its magnetic force continued to "pull" people towards it until the whole of Arabia joined the Faith. Compared to the population of the rest of the world at that time, the Arabs constituted a tiny minority. A fraction of this minority decided to take the SWORD beyond the boundaries of the Arabian desert to the mighty Mediterranean, the coast of Malabar and the far away East Indies Islands. People after people continued surrendering to this SWORD and joining the Faith.
So sharp was the edge of the SWORD! It simply conquered the hearts; bodies yielded automatically. It is the SWORD OF TRUTH, whose mere shine eliminates falsehood just like light wipes away darkness.
HAS THE SWORD GONE BLUNT? NO, FAR FROM IT.
It Continues to pierce the hearts of countless men and women today - in spite of the relentless efforts by persons with vested interests who like darkness to prevail, so that they may rob people of their good things. Read below the impressions of some who were recently conquered by the same SWORD. They are from different countries, speak different languages and have different backgrounds. Their present addresses are also given. Perhaps you may like to ask them how it feels to be struck by the SWORD OF TRUTH.
1. LEOPOLD WEISS (now Mohammed Asad): Austrian statesman, journalist, former foreign correspondent for the Frankfurter Zeitung; author of Islam at Cross Roads and Road to Mecca and translator of the Qur'an. He embraced Islam in 1926.
"Islam appears to me like a perfect work of Architecture. All its parts are harmoniously conceived to complement and support each other. Nothing is superfluous and nothing lacking, with the result of an absolute balance and solid composure."
2. AHMED HOLT: British Civil Contractor, traveler in search of the Divine truth, spent much of his time in research and comparative study of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He embraced Islam in 1975.
"The SWORD OF ISLAM is not the sword of steel. I know this by experience, because the sword of Islam struck deep into my own heart. It didn't bring death, but it brought a new life; it brought an awareness and it brought an awakening as to who am I and what am I and for what am I here?"
3. BOGDAN KOPANSKI (now Bogdan Ataullah Kopanski):originally Polish, now American; Ph.D. in history and politics, had a very interesting journey to Islam and faced severe hardships; was imprisoned twice by the Polish communist regime (1968, 1981-82). He embraced Islam in 1974.
"When I was 12 years old I rejected illogical and contradictory faith of the Church. Two years later in 1962 I was fascinated by the victorious struggle of the Algerian Muslim mujahideen against French colonialism. It was the first arrow of Islam...The high school and earliest days of my education in the University, I was a typical example of the 'rebel generation' of Reds...My way to the Truth of Al-Qur'an was slow and unpaved... In 1974 I visited Turkey, I wrote my M.A. dissertation about Sultan and Caliph Suleiman Kanuni's policy towards the Polish Kingdom. There I was hit by the most beautiful voice of mankind, Adhan, the call to prayer. My hair stood up. An unknown, powerful force led me to an old masjid in Istanbul. There, old, smiling, Turkish bearded men taught me Wuzu, ablution. I confessed to tears, Shahada, and I prayed my first Salah Maghrib...I swept out the rubbish ideologies...The first time in my life, my mind was relaxed and I felt the pleasure of Allah's love in my heart. I was a Muslim..."
4-VENGATACHALAM ADIYAR (now Abdullah Adiyar): Indian, noted Tamil writer and journalist; worked as a news editor inn Dr. M. Karunanidhi's daily Murasoli for 17 years; assisted 3 former Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu. Received Kalaimamani Award (Big Gem of Arts) from Tamil Nadu Government in 1982. He embraced Islam in 1987.
"In Islam I found suitable replies to nagging queries arising n my mind with regard to the theory of creation, status of woman, creation of universe, etc. The life history of the holy Prophet attracted me very much and made easy for me to compare with other world leaders and their philosophies."
5. HERBERT HOBOHM (now Aman Hobohm): German diplomat, missionary and social worker. An intellectual who has been serving the German diplomatic missions in various parts of the world. Presently working as Cultural Attache in German Embassy in Riyadh. He embraced Islam in 1941.
"I have lived under different systems of life and have had the opportunity of studying various ideologies, but have come to the conclusion that none is as perfect as Islam. None of the systems has got a complete code of a noble life, Only Islam has it' and that is why good men embrace it. Islam is not theoretical; it is practical. It means complete submission to the will of God."
6. CAT STEVENS (now Yusuf Islam): British; formerly a Christian and a world famous pop singer. He embraced Islam in 1973.
"It will be wrong to judge Islam in the light of the behavior of some bad Muslims who are always shown on the media. It is like judging a car as a bad one if the driver if the car is drunk and he bangs it into the wall. Islam guides all human beings in daily life - in it's spiritual, mental and physical dimensions. But we must find the sources of these instruction, the Qur'an and the example of the Prophet. then we can see the ideal of Islam."
7. MARGARET MARCUS (now Maryam Jamilah): American; formerly a Jews, essayist and author of many books. She embraced Islam in 1962.
"The authority of Islamic Morals and Laws proceeds from Almighty God. Pleasure and happiness in Islam are but the natural byproducts of emotional satisfaction in one's duties conscientiously performed for the pleasure of God to achieve salvation. In Islam duties are always stressed above rights. Only in Islam was my quest for absolute values satisfied. Only in Islam did I at last find all that was true, good, beautiful and which gives meaning and direction to human life and death.
8. M. HOFFMAN (now Murad Hoffman): Ph.D. in law (Harvard); German social scientist and diplomat; presently German Ambassador in Algeria. He embraced Islam in 1980.
"For some time now, striving for more and more precision and brevity, I have tried to put on paper in a systematic way, all philosophical truths, which in my view, can be ascertained beyond reasonable doubt. In the course of this effort it dawned on me that the typical attitude of an agnostic is not an intelligent one; that man simply cannot escape a decision to believe; that the createdness of what exists around us is obvious; that Islam undoubtedly finds itself in the greatest harmony with overall reality. Thus I realize, not without shock, that step by step, in spite of myself and almost unconsciously, n feeling and thinking I have grown into a Muslim. Only one last step remained to be taken: to formalize my conversion. As of today I am a Muslim. I have arrived."
9. CASSIUS CLAY (now Muhammad Ali): American; three times World Heavyweight Champion, formerly a Christian. He embraced Islam in 1965.
"I have had many nice moments in my life. But the feelings I had while standing on Mount Arafat on the day of Hajj ( Muslims' pilgrimage), was the most unique. I felt exalted by the indescribable spiritual atmosphere there as over a million and a half pilgrims invoked God to forgive them of their sins and bestow on them His choicest blessings. It was an exhilarating experience to see to people belonging to different colors, races and nationalities, kings, heads of states and ordinary men from very poor countries all clad in two simple white sheets praying to God without any sense of either pride or inferiority. It was a practical manifestation of the concept of equality in Islam."
(Speaking to the daily "Al-Madinah" Jeddah, 15 July, 1989)
These were the impressions of a few persons who had themselves been struck by the SWORD OF TRUTH, that is, the Message of Islam.
AS FOR THE PROPAGANDA THAT IT WAS THE SWORD OF STEEL, THAT IS, FORCE, WHICH WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE UNIVERSAL EXPANSION OF ISLAM, WE GIVE BELOW QUOTATIONS FROM THE WRITING OF SOME OF THE PROMINENT NON-MUSLIM SCHOLARS AND LEADERS REFUTING THIS BASELESS ACCUSATION.
1. M. K. GANDHI: "...I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble." YOUNG INDIA, 1924
2. EDWARD GIBBON: "The greatest success of Mohammed's life was effected by sheer moral force without the stroke of a sword." HISTORY OF THE SARACEN EMPIRE, London, 1870
3. A. S. TRITTON: "The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur'an in the other is quite false." ISLAM, London, 1951, p. 21
4. DE LACY O'LEARY: "History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslim, sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated." ISLAM AT CROSSROADS, London, 1923, p. 8
5. K. S. RAMAKRISHNA RAO: "My problem to write this monograph is easier because we are not generally fed now on that (distorted) kind of history and much time need not be spent on pointing out our misrepresentations of Islam. The theory of Islam and sword, for instance, is not heard now in any quarter worth the name. The principle of Islam, there is no compulsion in religion, is well known." MOHAMMED THE PROPHET OF ISLAM, Riyadh, 1989, p. 4
6. JAMES A. MICHENER: "No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam...The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts that idea, and the Qur'an is explicit in support of the freedom of conscience." ISLAM - THE MISUNDERSTOOD RELIGION, READERS' DIGEST (American Edition) May 1955
7. LAWRENCE E. BROWNE: "Incidentally these well-established facts dispose of the idea so widely fostered in Christian writings that the Muslims, wherever they went, forced people to accept Islam at the point of the sword." THE PROSPECTS OR ISLAM, London, 1944.
 

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saharaz said:

Epic Fail.

The quetion was on renowned scientists converting to Islam. And all you do is provide me with a link listing scientists who have complimented certain aspects of it. Of the listed scientists, only ONE has acutally converted to Islam.

I ran there names in google, and keep the following in mind next time you try to fool people into believing that all of them are now devote muslims:

Keith L.Moore - religion unconfirmed

E. Marshall Johnson - religion unconfirmed

T.V.N. Persaud - religion unconfirmed

Joe Leigh Simpson – religion unconfirmed

Gerald C.Goeringer - religion unconfirmed

Alfred Kroner - religion unconfirmed

Yushidi Kusan – religion unconfirmed

Professor Armstrong – religion unconfirmed

William Hay - religion unconfirmed

Durga Rao - religion unconfirmed

Professor Siaveda - religion unconfirmed

Tejatat Tejasen - conversion to islam confirmed

Dr. Maurice Bucaille – religion unconfirmed

This Islamic website even aknowledges them as "non-muslim scientisits" - http://www.islamicmedicine.org/nonmuslim.htm

Just because they are scientists doesn't mean what they have said about Islam holds any truth. Those are mere observations they've made, with no backup evidence, just like Einstein (arguably the most intelligent person the 20th century saw) called god a "superstion". http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/12/peopleinscience.religion
 
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Saharaz your posts would be more readable if you stopped copy/pasting entire articles from the net. Whatever you say is always someone else's work.

We know how to use Google, and we can search for ourselves, so there really is no need to bring articles from Islamic sites and paste them here word-to-word. Why don't you ever explain your point of view and only provide a link for reference? As for me, I skip the majority of your stuff because they are usually Islamic propoganda taken directly from Islamic websites, without any form of reference. And I usually take such posts with a grain of salt.

If you think by doing this, you'll manage to convince at least one non-muslim you are wrong. It only makes them despise Islam and its followers like you more. So know that you are doing more damage than justice to your religion.
 

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nadeeshaF said:
Saharaz your posts would be more readable if you stopped copy/pasting entire articles from the net. Whatever you say is always someone else's work.

We know how to use Google, and we can search for ourselves, so there really is no need to bring articles from Islamic sites and paste them here word-to-word. Why don't you ever explain your point of view and only provide a link for reference? As for me, I skip the majority of your stuff because they are usually Islamic propoganda taken directly from Islamic websites, without any form of reference. And I usually take such posts with a grain of salt.

If you think by doing this, you'll manage to convince at least one non-muslim you are wrong. It only makes them despise Islam and its followers like you more. So know that you are doing more damage than justice to your religion.

heloo sister nadeeshaF i pray for your good health .......

don't worry about my works 80% of my works based on wikipedia.com.. the amazin part is i never knew that wikipedia.com is a islamic websites
which is propergating islam and terrorism and extremism :rolleyes:
????????? you don't worry about my copy/past works as long as it is answering all you RESPECTIVE QUESTION from your RESPECTIVE MINDS:P .....

ON THE OTHER HAND YOU MMMMHHHHH.....VERY GREAT...

200% OF YOUR WORKS ARE BASED ON ANTI ISLAMIC WEBSITS :nerd:
 

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To afw - I see you still haven't learnt to type intelligently.

*points at the post below*
 
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    nadeeshaF said:
    Epic Fail.

    The quetion was on renowned scientists converting to Islam. And all you do is provide me with a link listing scientists who have complimented certain aspects of it. Of the listed scientists, only ONE has acutally converted to Islam.

    I ran there names in google, and keep the following in mind next time you try to fool people into believing that all of them are now devote muslims:

    Keith L.Moore - religion unconfirmed

    E. Marshall Johnson - religion unconfirmed

    T.V.N. Persaud - religion unconfirmed

    Joe Leigh Simpson – religion unconfirmed

    Gerald C.Goeringer - religion unconfirmed

    Alfred Kroner - religion unconfirmed

    Yushidi Kusan – religion unconfirmed

    Professor Armstrong – religion unconfirmed

    William Hay - religion unconfirmed

    Durga Rao - religion unconfirmed

    Professor Siaveda - religion unconfirmed

    Tejatat Tejasen - conversion to islam confirmed

    Dr. Maurice Bucaille – religion unconfirmed

    This Islamic website even aknowledges them as "non-muslim scientisits" - http://www.islamicmedicine.org/nonmuslim.htm

    Just because they are scientists doesn't mean what they have said about Islam holds any truth. Those are mere observations they've made, with no backup evidence, just like Einstein (arguably the most intelligent person the 20th century saw) called god a "superstion". http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/12/peopleinscience.religion

    "Religion Unconfirmed" Boooooooooooooooo :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
    :P :P :P :P

    You kept of criticizing Islam and Muslims in this thread and ...when I asked about you religion u asked whether knowing your religion is of any importance for this topic....

    Now you want to know the religions of the people who have given their opinions of Islam and Muslims...

    I think you might be thinking that they are all Muslims... If so I think you are wrong since almost everyone who revert to Islam change their names :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: (Since Allah has commanded to have name which are beautiful and have good meanings):rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     

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    heloo sister nadeeshaF i pray for your good health .......

    don't worry about my works 80% of my works based on wikipedia.com.. the amazin part is i never knew that wikipedia.com is a islamic websites
    which is propergating islam and terrorism and extremism :rolleyes:
    ????????? you don't worry about my copy/past works as long as it is answering all you RESPECTIVE QUESTION from your RESPECTIVE MINDS:P .....

    ON THE OTHER HAND YOU MMMMHHHHH.....VERY GREAT...

    200% OF YOUR WORKS ARE BASED ON ANTI ISLAMIC WEBSITS :nerd:


    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: Someone must be Paying her to propagate against Islam and Muslims :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :P :P :P :P :P