would like to clarify this from someone who knows buddism..

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i did ask this from sri_lion but he seems busy (here).i would like some one whose got a proper knowledge to answer these questions.

and please any one who posts keep the respect for others feelings.i'd like this to be a doubt clearing thread not a religion bashing one.

i know we've talked about this before but just thought of making sure.

also is there any other personality that buddism recognizes equel to budda or his in the peak of it? like buddist know that he achieved nirvana for sure
(or i think they believe, correct me if wrong).so he's the only one to achieve it?

did budda talk anything about punishments? or is there any statement from him supporting punishing in order to keep things under control..
i just want to know anything budda said with regard to it.or he din talk about it at all..

Thanks
 

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    just said:
    i did ask this from sri_lion but he seems busy (here).i would like some one whose got a proper knowledge to answer these questions.

    and please any one who posts keep the respect for others feelings.i'd like this to be a doubt clearing thread not a religion bashing one.

    i know we've talked about this before but just thought of making sure.

    also is there any other personality that buddism recognizes equel to budda or his in the peak of it? like buddist know that he achieved nirvana for sure
    (or i think they believe, correct me if wrong).so he's the only one to achieve it?

    did budda talk anything about punishments? or is there any statement from him supporting punishing in order to keep things under control..
    i just want to know anything budda said with regard to it.or he din talk about it at all..

    Thanks


    Shall I reply this in Sinhala?
     

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    Sakala sirin piri siri lankawe
    I will try to answer these
    Lord Buddha was not the only person who attained nibbana. There are thre ways to attain nibbana which are called 'තුන්තරා බෝධිය. (thunthara bodhiya)
    1. Budu බුදු
    2. Pase budu පසේ බුදු
    3. Maha rahath මහ රහත්

    Second one, Lord buddha once punished Channa theranuwo. It was called බ්*රහ්ම දණ්ඩණය (brahma dandanaya). He prohibted other priest to speak with Channa theranuwo until he recorrects his mistakes.

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    Bauddhayekuge (Buddhist) aramuna thama Nirvanaya awabodha karageneema. Nirvanaya awabodha karaganna kenekuta vidhi 3k thiyenawa.

    1.Budu
    2.Pase Budu
    3.Maha Rahath

    Me 3 wenas wenne eaka labaganna darana uthsahaya anuwa.

    Oyage prashana
    (1)Budun wahanseta samana kenek innawada? Budu kenekuta samaana thawath budu kenek vitharai budu dahamata anuwa. Buduwaru hitiye ekkenek vitharak nemei. Buddhathwayata awashya karana kepakereema (effort) karanna puluwannan one kenekuta puluwan budhathwaya labaganna. (Anyway it is not that much easy ;))

    (2)Punishment – Danduwam gena kiyanawanan budu haamuduruwo danduwam anumatha karala thiyenawa. Udaharanayak hetiyata samahara bhikshun wahaselata pawa danduwam panawala thiyenawa. Hebai ellala maranawa wage eawa nan nemei. “Brahmadandanaya” eakiyanne hikmawanta beri pudgalayek innwanan anith aya eyath ekka katha kireemen welakee innawa wage.
     

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    life said:
    2. Pase budu පසේ බුදු

    Samahara wita gataluwak athiwanna puluwan pase budu(පසේ බුදු) kenek kiyanne.....mona akarayaka uthumekutada kiyala.................?

    Pase budu kenek kiyanne Budda uthpathtiyak (Abuddothpadana samayaka) nethi samayaka swakeeya ghanayenma chathurarya sathya awaboda karaganna uthumekuta................
    namuth lovuthura buduwarayeku men pase budu kenek lokayata Dharmaya deshana karanne ne.........Enam..............dharma rathnaya ha sanga rathnayak athiwanne ne....................pase budu kenek awaboda kala sathya unwahansege piriniwan pemath samaga viyakila yanawa.......................

    Lovuthura Buduwarayek pamanai,thama awabodha karagath sathya Dev minisunge ......yahapatha udesa deshana karanne.....................


    homoelectronics said:
    . Hebai ellala maranawa wage eawa nan nemei. “Brahmadandanaya” eakiyanne hikmawanta beri pudgalayek innwanan anith aya eyath ekka katha kireemen welakee innawa wage.

    unwahanse anugamanaya kale manasika daduwam krama...............
     

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    Pinwath mithurani,

    Mata hithuna "danduwam" dima gena thawa tikak mama danna vidihata pehadili karanna...

    Budurajananwahanseta pudgalayan Dharmaya thula hikmavime (damanaya kirime) vishesha hekiyawak thibuna - ekata kiyanne "purusa dhammasarathi" kiyala. Oya gena Kesi nam asvayan damanaya karana ("aswa dhammasarathi" kiyala pali valin kiyanne) kenekuta mese pavasa thiyenawa...

    Kesi aswayan damanaya karana lesama, Budurajanan wahanse pahatha kramavalin pudgalain damanaya karanawa
    1. "hondin" damanaya karanawa (e kiyanne kusala karmawala yahapath vipaka; adiya penvimen...)
    2. (beri nam) "narakin" damanaya karanawa ( e kiyanne akusala karmawala ayahapath vipaka adiya penvima)
    3. (no esenam) "hondin ha narakin" damanaya karanawa (e kiyanne ihatha de pariddenma)
    4. (ehemath beri nam) "mara danawa" - e kiyanne Budurajanan wahanse ho anekuth shrawakayan upades nodi ath herimen; Dharmaya anuwa beluwama eya danduwamak thami.. mokada kalana mithurange upades nethiwa dharmaya diyunu karaganan be ...

    Menna e gena kiyana deshanayak: http://www.gautamabuddha.org/downloads/Mp3/Kesee_Sutta.mp3

    Budun langa mahana vu hemoma ese hikmune ne. Mokada Dharmaye hesirenna pudgalayakuge kusalathawak (hekiyawak) thiyenna one...
    Devadaththa hodama udaharanayak; eth Devadaththata pava budurajanan wahanse daduwam kare ne... Ei? Budu kenek danduwamk denneth e pudgalaya e nisa Dharmaya thulata pemina diyunu wenawa nam pamanai... Esewath hikmavimata beri vuvaku innawanam ohu gena upekshawen (elmak ho getimak nethiva) nothaka herima pamanai kala hekke...

    Kenek budurajanan wahanse ha ekanga vuvath nethath, unwahanse ki de kalath nethath unwahanse beluwe ema pudgalaya daham magata ganna idak thiyenawada kiyana eka pamanai - idak thiyenawa nam kese ho pihita vimatai... Budurajanan wahanse maranayata path karanna Devadattha (mahana vela hitiye) parbathayak uda sita galak peralanawa; eken Budurajanan wahanse thuwala pawa labanawa... Ita pasuwa Devadathha budun langata evilla sanghaya bindavanna kiyala anumatha kala noheki avasara 5 illanawa; ehidivath Budurajanan wahanse katayuthu karanne Devadaththa gena anukampaven mai...

    Budurajananwahansela thulatharaha yamata hethuwa (ekath hithaka thiyena akusala mulak ne) nethi nisa; thamage shrawakain thama ta anuwa inna one bavak ho ovun gena vishesha elmak nethi nisa vena danduwam kirime avshayathawa budugenekuta ethivenne ne...

    Budurajananwahanse ge nikeles bava gena ehulu guna gena thiyena sarala deshanawak thiyenawa methena:
    http://www.gautamabuddha.ca/bana/sinhala/087_Wesak_Themagula_Abiyasa_Yown_Oba_1.mp3
    http://www.gautamabuddha.ca/bana/sinhala/088_Wesak_Themagula_Abiyasa_Yown_Oba_2.mp3
    (nam vashayen nokivata me deshanaye de thun thenaka aneka agam ekka tharamak sesendenawa; e hinda akemethi nam no asa hitiyath kam ne...)

    Budurahanan wahanse "Brahma dandanaya" anumatha kara eththeth Channa Therunta pamanai... (E bava kivve pirinivan panna mohothakata kalin; e venakanuth Ananda therun ethulu sanghaya Brahma Dandanaya kiyana vachanaya pava asa thibbe ne...). Channa therunta eka penavuye ohuta rahath vime kusalathawa thibunath; manaya (hithata gath kama) nisa eya kala noheki vimai... Brahma dandanaya dimen ohuge manaya bindi gos nevath margaya ta enna puluvan vuna...

    Thawath thenaka therun pirisak budun hamuvimata evidin ke gasamin sitinawa... Ethanadi budurajan wahanse ovn siyallatama budun hamuvenna pava ida nodi apasu heri yana lesa danwa yavanawa... Ethanadith vuye ema therun varada vatahagena hikimi Dahama maga kelavaratama yamai... E hindama thamai danduwa ma dunne...

    Ekala bodu samajaye bikshu, bikshuni, upasaka, upasika kiyna piris 4 ma niyama darmaye hesiruna... e nisa varada nivarada karaganna itha pahasu vuna... E kiyanne mahana vu aya varade benduna vita gihi aya pava varada dharmayata anuva penva di thibenava... Budurajanan wahanse inna samaye Kosembe nuvara Ghoshitharamaya nam viharaye bikshu pirisa dekata bedi randu vuna... ovn budurajananwahanse ge avavada esuve ne... Budurajanan wahanse kale ethenin ivath vi yama pamanai... Dayaka piris randuwa navathva budun gen samava ganna thuru danaya dimen velakuna... emangin e bikshun ibema nevath nisi magata peminiya...

    Evage deval puluvan vune Dharmaye hesirena bahutharaya Dharmaya anuva sithimai; ovun chanda (kemettha), dveesha (tharaha), bhaya (bayata pathvima), moha (mualvata pathvima) yana "sathara agathi" nisa varadakata enne ne (nidasunak lesa oya kisi hethuvak nisa boru kiyanne ne)... Ekamai silya nokadawa rakinna puluvan...

    Dharmaya thula yana aya pirisidu wenne thaman thulinmai (thaman sihiya diyunu kara hithe ethivana akusala dakina vita ovun thula varada hada ganna nithethin ma sith pahala vaenava); Ese Dharmaye no hesirennan budu sasunata aithi nethi vidihatai ekala selakuye (mokada buddhagama kiyala agamak thibbe ne; budu pirisa hedila inne margaya pilipadina ayagen; anek aya ita aithi ne)... E nisa th danduwam dime avshyathawak nethi tharam...

    Mahana wu aya athin waradak vunoth:
    - Varada kihipayak thiyenawa eva kala ayaku "parajika" venava; e kiyanne mahana kama nethi venava... (udahharanayak nam minis ghathanayakata vachanaykin ho anubala dima)
    - Samahara varada sesu sanghaya idiriye piligenena niveradi karagenima pramanavath
    - Thawath samahara sulu varada thama visinma niveradi kara gath heki...

    Api vage gihi ayeku gaththoth Ananthariya papakarma 5 (mava merima; piya merima; rahathun merima; budunge enge le selavima; sangha bedaya) hera anek onema varadak hada ganna puluvan... Dharmaya diyunu vena kena pasu tevenne nethiva thama silaya sakas karaganna one... Gihiyekuta nam pancha silaya... Arya shrawakaya (enam daham magata pemini kena) ema silaya rakinne kada novana lesin...

    Avasanavakata ada baudhdha yei kiya ganna boho aya Daham margaye hesirenne ne... :(
    Dharmayata anuwa kiyanna puluvan ovn budu sasunata aiythi nethi bava pamanai.. E nisa apa pava ese darmaye no hesirennan gena tharaha nogena indimata purudu viya yuthui... Kala hekke anukampavena eya penwa dima pamanai...

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    pow karoth e pow kawada hari gevanda sidda venawa.its something you do it for ur slf, f u do good then u ll get the good stff..lyk that!!
     

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    also is there any other personality that buddism recognizes equel to budda or his in the peak of it? like buddist know that he achieved nirvana for sure (or i think they believe, correct me if wrong).so he's the only one to achieve it?
    Pinwath mithura,

    Sammasambudu genek (e kiyanne thama visinama nivan margaya soyagena anek ayata kiyana...) "asamasama" kiyala dharmaye sandahan venne... An kisiveku ha sama novana nisa "asama"; anek siyalu sammasambuduwarayin ha guna vashayen samana nisa "sama"...

    "Sasara" kiyanne tanhava nisa bendi giya (apa veni) siyalu dena thula nevath nevath ipadamin yana (kelavarak no seviya heki tharam vu) pevethmai. Oya sasare yana kena "sathvaya" ho "pudgalaya" lesa hendinvenava...

    Sasara pevethma siduvanne hethu-pala kriyakarithvayak thulin. Sathwayan thula ethi anavabodhaya (avijjava) ha enisa ethivu tanhava (e kiyanne ashvadayata eli yama) nisa ohu sithana, katha karana, kriya karana hema vitama karma sakas venava vipaka dena vidihata... Kenek ema svbhavayenma merunoth ema kriyavaliya nisa ipadenava... Oya kriyavaliyata kiyanne "paticca samuppadaya" kiyala... Hethu nisa nevatha nevath ipadimath; e nisa nevatha nevatha duk ethivimath siduvanne ema kriyavaliya nisa...

    Nivan yama kiyanne hethu venas akaraykin sakas kirima magin (eka karanna one sihiyen, viriyen, avabodhayen yuthuva) paticca samuppadaya nevethvimai.. Rahath vu kenekuge ema kriyavaliya ne... E hinda yali ipadena svabhavaya ne...

    Mese nevethmata hethu sakas kirima thamai "Arya ashtangika margaya" kiyanne... Kenekta thamava nivan dakkavanna be; karanna puluvan hethu sakas karanna vitharai... enam margaya pilipadinna vitharai... eke palaya thami nivana.. Siyaluma baudhhayange ilakkaya "viya yuthhte" mema margaya thama thamanta heki akarayen puhunu kirimai...

    Ese maga gos nivan dutu aya thamai rahathan vahansela; nivan sepaya (sepayak kiyanne duka ethivana kisima deyak ithiri novana nisa...) sesendimedi ovun laba gath de Budurajanan wahanse labagath deta samanai... Eheth jeewath vana kalaya thula ovun budunge shrawakayan pamanai; samana venne ne...

    Podi petelenna puluva thenak gena kiyannam: Rahath vunata kenek "sathwayek" ho "pudgalayek" kiyanna be; ohu "mama" kiyala katha karanne sammuthiyak lesa vitharai, mama kiyana hengimak nethiva... Ema shariraye thiyenne hethu pala kriyakarithvayak vitharai... e bana ohu dannava...
    E hinda thamai Rahathan vahanasela sambandhayen ape vage maranak kiyana deyak gena katha karanna beri (ovun "pirinivan panava" - ape maranayakata vada venas - maranayen pasu kisi deyak ne - ajeewi sirura pamanai ithiri vanne)...
    Dharmaya anuva "maranaya" kiayana de Rahathanwahansela gena yodanna puluvan sammuthiyak vidihata pamanai (udaharanayak: "rahathun merima")...

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    ok, sorry if i din put the question correctly.

    but what i asked was not the stages one goes through when attaining nirvana..

    ok ill put it this way.i think buddists know that buddha achieved nirvana (correct me if im wrong) and according to them not only him but lot of others did and will attain it.

    my question was is there any other person who achieved the same status? or what others will achieve wont be same as his?

    thanks for all your time..
     

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    ok, sorry if i din put the question correctly.

    but what i asked was not the stages one goes through when attaining nirvana..

    ok ill put it this way.i think buddists know that buddha achieved nirvana (correct me if im wrong) and according to them not only him but lot of others did and will attain it.

    my question was is there any other person who achieved the same status? or what others will achieve wont be same as his?

    thanks for all your time..
    Dear friend,

    Sammasambuddha, Paccecabuddha and Arahat are not stages; all three attain Nibbana in different ways..

    A sammasambuddha is equal only to another sammasambuddha; a sammasambuddha cannot be equated to anyone else.

    Nibbana they attain is the same; eventhough they are not equal in other ways (i.e. before passing away)...

    All these facts are highlighted in the replies to your posts... :)
    Please let us know exactly what you wish to have clarified... Thanks

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    kalyanamithra said:
    Mese nevethmata hethu sakas kirima thamai "Arya ashtangika margaya" kiyanne...Kenekta thamava nivan dakkavanna be; karanna puluvan hethu sakas karanna vitharai... enam margaya pilipadinna vitharai... eke palaya thami nivana.. Siyaluma baudhhayange ilakkaya "viya yuthhte" mema margaya thama thamanta heki akarayen puhunu kirimai...
    ok i guess i have to clarify my assumption first. i've never learnet deeply but i asked this question based on the assumption that buddha did tell he's gona attain nirvana at the last moment (i saw this on a cartoon for children, so not sure thats the fact)

    so based on that only i was having this question.but his preaching were based firmly on that right (based on what buddist believe he did achiev it).

    so on that ground only i asked the question was he the only one who had that ability. as per your reply no one can take them (or fore see) nirvana but only follow the path..is that correct?

    ps: if any of my statements reasoning or facts incorrect pls correct them..

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    ok i guess i have clarify my assumption as well. i've never learnet deeply but i asked this question based on the assumption that buddha did tell he's gona attain nirvana at the last moment (i saw this on a cartoon for children, so not sure thats the fact)

    so based on that only i was having this question.but his preaching were based firmly on that right (based on what buddist believe he did achiev it).

    so on that ground only i asked the question was he the only one who had that ability. as per your reply no one can take them (or fore see) nirvana but only follow the path..is that correct?

    ps: if any of my statements reasoning or facts incorrect pls correct them..

    Thanks
    Dear friend,

    A person attain Nibbana at the moment of enlightenment; after that he/she is called an Arhat. He/she is without Raga (greed...), Devesha (aversion...), Moha (delusion...); he/she is without Tanha (desire/craving...); he/she is without the feeling of self... This attainment is cauled "saupadisesa parinibbana" - because he/she is expereincing Nibbana while having the forms, feelings, etc. (i.e. while alive).

    When he/she passes away everything that causes suffering ceases to exist; this is called attainment of "anupadisesa parinibbana". What we generally call "parinibbana" is this...

    Passing away of Buddha was announced 3 months before the date; and impermanance of life is not a suprise to Buddhists (esp. rahatan wahansela). So the cartoon you've seen does not clearly depict Dhamma...

    All Sammasambuddha, Paccecabuddha and Arahat (i.e. followers) expereince Nibbana like that: first while being alive; then at death.

    Arhat is a follower (he/she attains Nibbana by practicing what disclosed by a Sammasambuddha). Sammasambuddha and Paccecabuddha are not followers; they figure out the Path on their own...

    Paccecabuddhas are not capable of guiding others to attain Nibbana; only a Sammasambuddha (like Gautama Buddha) and an Arahat (the follower who had completed the Path) can show others how to attain Nibbana.

    Sammsasambuddhas are rare but there've been 7 sammsambuddha for past 100 Kalpas (a kalpa is a time between successive re-creation of this universe). Paccecabuddhas are seen only in periods where Dhamma disclosed by Sammasambuddhas is not known in the world... Thousands of Arahats are among followers of a Sammsambuddha; any person entering the Sothapaththi (stream-enter) state in the Path eventually (within 7 lives) ends up being an Arhat.

    Aim of every lay and monk in Buddha Sashana is attaining Nibbana. All monks take the robes stating the reason for it as ending suffering in samsaraic existence...

    Answer for your question:
    All sammasambuddhas (including Sammasambuddha Gautama, whose Sasana is still present) and Paccecabuddhas attain Nibbana without external guidanace... Other arhats attain Nibbana by completing the Path disclosed by Sammsambuddhas...

    Following pessage is only to highlight why I said one cannot take another to Nibbata...
    Dhamma reveals how things happen because of causes; no one can take another to Nibbana. A Buddha (or Dhamma he discloses) guides the others... Path is the process of practicing Dhamma...
    Different causes and results arise in a person practicing Dhamma; this rsult in attainment of Nibbana...
    This fact can be appreciated only if one is aware of selfless nature of everything... For example all though we use the terms: "I", "me", "mine" we do not have anything that can be kept under our control. Even our mind is not ours; we do not see the reality of life because of the notion of "self"; but what we have within us is a mechanism (it's called "paticcasamuppada") which can be stopped if what needed for it to work can be removed...
    If what we call 'self' is just a delusion (which one gets rid of when attaining Nibbana) how can one take oneslef (or another) to Nibbana? So, Nibbana is result arising because of one completing the Path...


    Hope this explanation clarifies what you wanted to know...

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    kalyanamithra said:
    Pinwath mithurani,

    Mata hithuna "danduwam" dima gena thawa tikak mama danna vidihata pehadili karanna...

    Budurajananwahanseta pudgalayan Dharmaya thula hikmavime (damanaya kirime) vishesha hekiyawak thibuna - ekata kiyanne "purusa dhammasarathi" kiyala. Oya gena Kesi nam asvayan damanaya karana ("aswa dhammasarathi" kiyala pali valin kiyanne) kenekuta mese pavasa thiyenawa...

    Kesi aswayan damanaya karana lesama, Budurajanan wahanse pahatha kramavalin pudgalain damanaya karanawa
    1. "hondin" damanaya karanawa (e kiyanne kusala karmawala yahapath vipaka; adiya penvimen...)
    2. (beri nam) "narakin" damanaya karanawa ( e kiyanne akusala karmawala ayahapath vipaka adiya penvima)
    3. (no esenam) "hondin ha narakin" damanaya karanawa (e kiyanne ihatha de pariddenma)
    4. (ehemath beri nam) "mara danawa" - e kiyanne Budurajanan wahanse ho anekuth shrawakayan upades nodi ath herimen; Dharmaya anuwa beluwama eya danduwamak thami.. mokada kalana mithurange upades nethiwa dharmaya diyunu karaganan be ...

    Menna e gena kiyana deshanayak: http://www.gautamabuddha.org/downloads/Mp3/Kesee_Sutta.mp3

    Budun langa mahana vu hemoma ese hikmune ne. Mokada Dharmaye hesirenna pudgalayakuge kusalathawak (hekiyawak) thiyenna one...
    Devadaththa hodama udaharanayak; eth Devadaththata pava budurajanan wahanse daduwam kare ne... Ei? Budu kenek danduwamk denneth e pudgalaya e nisa Dharmaya thulata pemina diyunu wenawa nam pamanai... Esewath hikmavimata beri vuvaku innawanam ohu gena upekshawen (elmak ho getimak nethiva) nothaka herima pamanai kala hekke...

    Kenek budurajanan wahanse ha ekanga vuvath nethath, unwahanse ki de kalath nethath unwahanse beluwe ema pudgalaya daham magata ganna idak thiyenawada kiyana eka pamanai - idak thiyenawa nam kese ho pihita vimatai... Budurajanan wahanse maranayata path karanna Devadattha (mahana vela hitiye) parbathayak uda sita galak peralanawa; eken Budurajanan wahanse thuwala pawa labanawa... Ita pasuwa Devadathha budun langata evilla sanghaya bindavanna kiyala anumatha kala noheki avasara 5 illanawa; ehidivath Budurajanan wahanse katayuthu karanne Devadaththa gena anukampaven mai...

    Budurajananwahansela thulatharaha yamata hethuwa (ekath hithaka thiyena akusala mulak ne) nethi nisa; thamage shrawakain thama ta anuwa inna one bavak ho ovun gena vishesha elmak nethi nisa vena danduwam kirime avshayathawa budugenekuta ethivenne ne...

    Budurajananwahanse ge nikeles bava gena ehulu guna gena thiyena sarala deshanawak thiyenawa methena:
    http://www.gautamabuddha.ca/bana/sinhala/087_Wesak_Themagula_Abiyasa_Yown_Oba_1.mp3
    http://www.gautamabuddha.ca/bana/sinhala/088_Wesak_Themagula_Abiyasa_Yown_Oba_2.mp3
    (nam vashayen nokivata me deshanaye de thun thenaka aneka agam ekka tharamak sesendenawa; e hinda akemethi nam no asa hitiyath kam ne...)

    Budurahanan wahanse "Brahma dandanaya" anumatha kara eththeth Channa Therunta pamanai... (E bava kivve pirinivan panna mohothakata kalin; e venakanuth Ananda therun ethulu sanghaya Brahma Dandanaya kiyana vachanaya pava asa thibbe ne...). Channa therunta eka penavuye ohuta rahath vime kusalathawa thibunath; manaya (hithata gath kama) nisa eya kala noheki vimai... Brahma dandanaya dimen ohuge manaya bindi gos nevath margaya ta enna puluvan vuna...

    Thawath thenaka therun pirisak budun hamuvimata evidin ke gasamin sitinawa... Ethanadi budurajan wahanse ovn siyallatama budun hamuvenna pava ida nodi apasu heri yana lesa danwa yavanawa... Ethanadith vuye ema therun varada vatahagena hikimi Dahama maga kelavaratama yamai... E hindama thamai danduwa ma dunne...

    Ekala bodu samajaye bikshu, bikshuni, upasaka, upasika kiyna piris 4 ma niyama darmaye hesiruna... e nisa varada nivarada karaganna itha pahasu vuna... E kiyanne mahana vu aya varade benduna vita gihi aya pava varada dharmayata anuva penva di thibenava... Budurajanan wahanse inna samaye Kosembe nuvara Ghoshitharamaya nam viharaye bikshu pirisa dekata bedi randu vuna... ovn budurajananwahanse ge avavada esuve ne... Budurajanan wahanse kale ethenin ivath vi yama pamanai... Dayaka piris randuwa navathva budun gen samava ganna thuru danaya dimen velakuna... emangin e bikshun ibema nevath nisi magata peminiya...

    Evage deval puluvan vune Dharmaye hesirena bahutharaya Dharmaya anuva sithimai; ovun chanda (kemettha), dveesha (tharaha), bhaya (bayata pathvima), moha (mualvata pathvima) yana "sathara agathi" nisa varadakata enne ne (nidasunak lesa oya kisi hethuvak nisa boru kiyanne ne)... Ekamai silya nokadawa rakinna puluvan...

    Dharmaya thula yana aya pirisidu wenne thaman thulinmai (thaman sihiya diyunu kara hithe ethivana akusala dakina vita ovun thula varada hada ganna nithethin ma sith pahala vaenava); Ese Dharmaye no hesirennan budu sasunata aithi nethi vidihatai ekala selakuye (mokada buddhagama kiyala agamak thibbe ne; budu pirisa hedila inne margaya pilipadina ayagen; anek aya ita aithi ne)... E nisa th danduwam dime avshyathawak nethi tharam...

    Mahana wu aya athin waradak vunoth:
    - Varada kihipayak thiyenawa eva kala ayaku "parajika" venava; e kiyanne mahana kama nethi venava... (udahharanayak nam minis ghathanayakata vachanaykin ho anubala dima)
    - Samahara varada sesu sanghaya idiriye piligenena niveradi karagenima pramanavath
    - Thawath samahara sulu varada thama visinma niveradi kara gath heki...

    Api vage gihi ayeku gaththoth Ananthariya papakarma 5 (mava merima; piya merima; rahathun merima; budunge enge le selavima; sangha bedaya) hera anek onema varadak hada ganna puluvan... Dharmaya diyunu vena kena pasu tevenne nethiva thama silaya sakas karaganna one... Gihiyekuta nam pancha silaya... Arya shrawakaya (enam daham magata pemini kena) ema silaya rakinne kada novana lesin...

    Avasanavakata ada baudhdha yei kiya ganna boho aya Daham margaye hesirenne ne... :(
    Dharmayata anuwa kiyanna puluvan ovn budu sasunata aiythi nethi bava pamanai.. E nisa apa pava ese darmaye no hesirennan gena tharaha nogena indimata purudu viya yuthui... Kala hekke anukampavena eya penwa dima pamanai...

    Theruwan saranai!

    wow what a comment!!
    Nice to have a person like you in EK! :yes:
    Keep up the good work!
     

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    thanks Kalyanamithra for your time. and all others..

    so there were people like budda (ie Sammasambuddha) but maybe not much of information available about them.

    did budda talked about any? mentioning about Sammasambuddha whom lived before him or anyone mentioned in any of authentic sources in buddism?
     

    kalyanamithra

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    just said:
    thanks Kalyanamithra for your time. and all others..

    so there were people like budda (ie Sammasambuddha) but maybe not much of information available about them.

    did budda talked about any? mentioning about Sammasambuddha whom lived before him or anyone mentioned in any of authentic sources in buddism?

    Pinwath mithura,

    "Sathbudu vandanava" in which the disciples recall about and worship the 7 sammasambuddha's in the past 100 kalpas has been practiced since the time of Buddha. Information about all those Buddhas are available in Tipitaka.

    e.g. Mahapadana Sutta of Deega Nikaya

    Even followers can develop ability to recall thousands of past lives; but only a sammsasambuddha can recall things like what mentioned in Mahapadana Sutta.

    Buddhawamsa in Kuddhaka Nikaya (of Tipitaka) discloses about sammsasambuddhas that lived even before that...

    Esigili sutta is a good example for a sutta in which sammsambuddha gautama discloses about Pacceca buddha...

    Purpose of all this disclosure was explaining the nature of samsara...

    Theruwan saranai!
     

    kalyanamithra

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    Xmanlk said:
    HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........
    Welawak Na
    Pinwath mithura,

    Welawak hamu venne ne neda? eya hada gatthe nethnam... :(
    Eka ta kepavima kiyala kiyanna puluvan... Dharmayedi kiyanne appamadaya kiyala...

    Eka karanna venne ape edineda veda athare thamai... eth uthsaha karanna vatinava ne da?

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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