RACISM IN BIBLE

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Don't say I'm falsely alleging as you do against Quran in your own words, But what i did was I took bible quotation it self..

There are significant passages of racism in the Bible. While the Prophet Muhammad destroyed and condemned racism, Jesus never even condemned it.

-Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. (Jeremiah 12:23)

-"And there came out against them Zerah the Ethiopian with an host of a thousand thousand, and three hundred chariots..." So the LORD smote the Ethiopians before Asa, and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled. (II Chronicles 14:9, 12)

-The LORD will be terrible unto them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth; and men shall worship him, every one from his place, even all the isles of the heathen. Ye Ethiopians also, ye shall be SLAIN by my SWORD. (Zephaniah 2:11-12)

-THERE IS NO GOD IN ALL THE EARTH, BUT IN ISRAEL. (2 Kings 5:15)

-Since you were precious in my sight, you have been honourable, and I have loved you. Therefore, I WILL GIVE MEN IN EXCHANGE FOR YOU, AND PEOPLE FOR YOUR LIFE. (Isaiah 43:4)

-Noah drank of the wine, and became drunk, and lay uncovered in his tent. And Ham the father of Canaan saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers out-side. Then Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it upon both their shoulders, and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father's nakedness. When Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his youngest son had done to him, he said, "CURSED be Canaan, a slave of slaves shall he be to his brothers, blessed be Shem, and let Canaan be his slave." (Genesis 9:21-25)

-"We ourselves, who are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners." (Galatians 2:15)

-But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. (1 Peter 2:9)

-Thus the Lord said, "Behold I will lift up my hand to the gentiles, and raise up my signal to the people, and they shall bring your sons in their bosom, and your daughters shall be carried on their shoulders. Kings will be your foster fathers, and their queens your nursing mothers. They will bow down before you with their faces to the ground; they will lick the dust at your feet. (Isaiah 49:22-23)

-And the Lord said, "Go through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have you pity. SLAY UTTERLY OLD AND YOUNG, BOTH MAIDS AND LITTLE CHILDREN, AND WOMEN. (Ezekiel 9:5)

-And the Lord said unto Moses, "Avenge the children of the Mid'-an'ites.. They warred against the Mid'-i-an'ites, as the Lord commanded Moses, and they slay
all the males. And they took all women as captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. Moses said, "HAVE YOU SAVED ALL THE WOMEN ALIVE? NOW KILL EVERY MALE AMONG THE LITTLE ONES, AND KILL EVERY WOMAN that has known a man by lying with him, but all the young girls who have not
known a man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves. (Numbers 31:1-10)

-The congregation of Benjamin sent twelve thousand of their bravest men, and commanded them, "Go and smite the inhabitants of Ja'-besh-gil'ead with the edge of the sword; also the women and the little ones. Every male and every woman that has lain with a male YOU SHALL UTTERLY DESTROY. (Judges 21:10)

-Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married, for he had married a Ethiopian woman. And they said, "Has the LORD indeed spoken only through Moses? Has he not spoken through us also?" And the LORD heard it. Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth. And suddenly the LORD said to Moses and to Aaron and Miriam, "Come out, you three, to the tent of meeting." And the three of them came out. And the LORD came down in a pillar of cloud and stood at the entrance of the tent and called Aaron and Miriam, and they both came forward. And he said, "Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the LORD make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream. Not so with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my house. With him I speak mouth to mouth, clearly, and not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?" And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them, and he departed.
When the cloud removed from over the tent, behold, Miriam was leprous,[a] like snow. And Aaron turned toward Miriam, and behold, she was leprous. And Aaron said to Moses, "Oh, my lord, do not punish us because we have done foolishly and have sinned. (Numbers 12:1-10)


The Holy Quran destroyed racism and slavery:

And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colours: verily in that are Signs for those who know. (Al-Quran 30:22)

O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). (Al-Quran 49:13)
 
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YES, We majority of muslim always read Quran unlike other religious people, here are u trying to defend bible or need to allege quran..

No I don't feel like defending bible. I'm just surprised that you have read the quran and yet you didn't notice the racist verses in it. Specially against the Jews.
 
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No I don't feel like defending bible. I'm just surprised that you have read the quran and yet you didn't notice the racist verses in it. Specially against the Jews.

It will be appreciated if you could bring up 2 versus from Quran, so that I will answer you insha allah..
 

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It will be appreciated if you could bring up 2 versus from Quran, so that I will answer you insha allah..

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

Quran 5:51
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O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

Quran 5:51
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In above verse Allah Almighty is concerned about the Alliance that Muslims commit themselves to, and not personal friendships.

Allah Almighty commanded the Muslims to be kind and just with non-Muslims: "Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"

Just because a person might be a non-Muslim it doesn't automatically make him an enemy to the Muslims. Peace-loving and innocent non-Muslims are to be treated with justice and kindness, otherwise the Muslims would be committing a sin and violating Allah Almighty's Holy Commands, "For Allah loveth Those who are just".

Why did Allah Almighty prohibit making alliance with the Jews and Christians was When Islam was still fresh and partial, and Muslims were just beginning to understand Islam; Allah Almighty's True Divine Religion, a group of hypocrites from the Jews and Christians tried to deceive the Muslims by pretending to accept Islam and then deserting it later, thus creating the impression that Islam was not a religion worth adopting.

Let us look at Noble Verse 3:72 "A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam)."

Since then, the Muslims became very wary from the Jews and Christians, because they proved themselves to be hypocrites.
 

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In above verse Allah Almighty is concerned about the Alliance that Muslims commit themselves to, and not personal friendships.

Allah Almighty commanded the Muslims to be kind and just with non-Muslims: "Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"

Just because a person might be a non-Muslim it doesn't automatically make him an enemy to the Muslims. Peace-loving and innocent non-Muslims are to be treated with justice and kindness, otherwise the Muslims would be committing a sin and violating Allah Almighty's Holy Commands, "For Allah loveth Those who are just".

Why did Allah Almighty prohibit making alliance with the Jews and Christians was When Islam was still fresh and partial, and Muslims were just beginning to understand Islam; Allah Almighty's True Divine Religion, a group of hypocrites from the Jews and Christians tried to deceive the Muslims by pretending to accept Islam and then deserting it later, thus creating the impression that Islam was not a religion worth adopting.

Let us look at Noble Verse 3:72 "A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam)."

Since then, the Muslims became very wary from the Jews and Christians, because they proved themselves to be hypocrites.

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In above verse Allah Almighty is concerned about the Alliance that Muslims commit themselves to, and not personal friendships.


Obviously there is a reason behind this verse. But it is irrelevant to the point. The point is Quran says that a specific group of people(Jews) should be treated differently because they are of a different race than muslims. This is racism.

Since then, the Muslims became very wary from the Jews and Christians, because they proved themselves to be hypocrites.

Speaking of hypocrites, you just started a thread named "Racism in Bible" when your own scriptures are full of it.
 
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Obviously there is a reason behind this verse. But it is irrelevant to the point. The point is Quran says that a specific group of people(Jews) should be treated differently because they are of a different race than muslims. This is racism.

It is very much disappointing response from you. for me it sounds like you your self say this is racism, based on the your personal bias view.though i answered you. this is like you are saying to me that im racist, Just because I shared a confidential matter with my wife or brother. you expect i need to say you the same to you as well if i don't want to be a racist.


Speaking of hypocrites, you just started a thread named "Racism in Bible" when your own scriptures are full of it.

We just started discussing about this, unfortunately immediately you came in to conclusion that my scriptures are full of it..I feel before our discussion it self you decided to allege so...then don't you feel this is a ill debate?.I could understand your motive, then my further clarification is not required.
 
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It's fine that I love Sri Lanka copy pasted the answer from Internet. I know he does it. But why do you have to agree with that? At least come up with your own answer, Or are all Muslims incapable of thinking for themselves??

Hi AG,

copy and paste, is it relevant here? we never put a condition that some body shouldn't copy anything. here we are not testing our knowledge, neither who is superior among our self..rather we defend our scriptures with the valid point for your allegation, some may like and some may not..it is our responsibility to give right and relevant answer to questioner.
 

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    Hi AG,

    copy and paste, is it relevant here? we never put a condition that some body shouldn't copy anything. here we are not testing our knowledge, neither who is superior among our self..rather we defend our scriptures with the valid point for your allegation, some may like and some may not..it is our responsibility to give right and relevant answer to questioner.

    good answer:yes::yes:
     

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    The Holy Quran destroyed racism and slavery:

    And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colours: verily in that are Signs for those who know. (Al-Quran 30:22)

    O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). (Al-Quran 49:13)
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol: just no comments
     

    AncientGlory

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    It is very much disappointing response from you. for me it sounds like you your self say this is racism, based on the your personal bias view.though i answered you. this is like you are saying to me that im racist, Just because I shared a confidential matter with my wife or brother. you expect i need to say you the same to you as well if i don't want to be a racist.
    That is fine man, we always disappoint each other. But at least we have something to talk about. So lets see what I'm trying to tell here. Don't you see stereotyping a specific group of people as bad based on their race as racism? Someone being good or bad is not dependent on his race, but his personality. If Quran saying a specific race is bad, it is racism.

    We just started discussing about this, unfortunately immediately you came in to conclusion that my scriptures are full of it..I feel before our discussion it self you decided to allege so...then don't you feel this is a ill debate?.I could understand your motive, then my further clarification is not required.
    Ahh well, no I have noticed these kind of verses in Quran sometime ago, I just did not imagine that you would not have noticed them though. I have no motive, just wanted to point out when you point your finger at bible, four fingers are pointed in your direction too. I do understand that given the cultural, background on those days, these kind of verses might have been necessary. So fine, there is racism in Quran. It is ok. But I think your attempt should be to explain why those things are there, not denying what is obvious.
     

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    Hi AG,

    copy and paste, is it relevant here? we never put a condition that some body shouldn't copy anything. here we are not testing our knowledge, neither who is superior among our self..rather we defend our scriptures with the valid point for your allegation, some may like and some may not..it is our responsibility to give right and relevant answer to questioner.

    Yeah, it's a bit relevant because I'm interested in having a discussion with you not with internet. But that's just fine.

    I was actually talking to that other guy, whom it seems have no voice. I apologize if you were offended.