The Wisdom Behind Prophet Muhammad's Plural Marriages

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If phophet muhammed was wise.
he would have realized from his supreme wisdom that he will be called as a PEDOPHILE in the future . so he would have been stying away from CONSUMING Ayisha at that little age and waited some time before humping her
on the other hand if all mighty allah is ALL MIGHTY and he knows the best

Allah would have prevented muhammed from nailing ayisha at the age of nine


So Either Mumammed is NOT AS WISE as muslims think or ALLAH is not knowing as best as muslims believe or muhammed don't give a shit about what allah says
:D:D

which one is the possible Explanation
:lol::lol:

very interesting thoughts BRO :)
 

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Actually we should. If a person did a single wrong thing, that is enough to judge a person. If the allegations are true, that is enough to come to a conclusion about prophet Muhammad. And we are not talking about a wrong he did impulsively one time, The claim is that he did have sex with a child over and over. If it is true, he clearly knew he what he was doing.


the sad thing is Allah said that he will be a good plotter ! all the allegations are true now Dr.Zakir try to change the Aisha's age to 16 ha ? :no:
the problem is not he had sex with that poor girl problem is how ethical is it to act like an animal ? you have no excuses because that is in 7th Centuray ... much civilized age so you can not ignore it :rolleyes: when person become lustful he does not have any idea what he is doing , or he has forgotten that he is the great prophet of Allah ha ? how terrible is that? I wonder why allah could not able to find a better person than this man? :lol: by the way i like the the topic of this thread "The Wisdom Behind Prophet Muhammad's Plural marriages" :( I thing it should deal with his manhood i guess


Really..To judge a person you want to have a single wrong thing which is controversial and doubtable even among Muslims. Being you are a honest person, why don’t u discuss with me some other things in which he involved.i don’t want to doubt your intention Just because you told me many times that you are not an anti Islamist whatever you write is your personal opinion, but I need to ask you once again are u true? That u r not an anti islmaist as your thinking is same as the other anti islamist and Christian missionaries. They keep saying he had sex with child over and over. And they forgot about she is his legal wife WE knw that any marriages below 13 is not legal according to the law bt in Muslim laws is that the case? , they had legal marriage contract, with the agreement of their parents marriage held, she reached puberty, Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries and no where Aisha herself pointed out in her life period that her marriage is not acceptable. But what they failed to provide is that, some more proof to strength their allegation such as

when mohomed marry aisha shehas not even reached his puberty , by saying marriage for young girl is very common in Arabs mean is it acceptable in Islam? my GOD :frown: See according to me a Prophet is a very special person he should be a very good Charactor bt I doubt we could not find those qualities with ur prophet


01) if he is such a character person, how many more child girl he had sex with
02) proof from aisha for disagreement for this wedding in her total life period
03) If he wanted to have child sex like that, he could have very well had even without marriage, also with more than one.
04) If allegation is true, he could have selected child in his other marriage as well.
05) Nowhere in his life history had he ever even alleged to be attempted for rape.
06) Nowhere in the history people who lived of prophet time has objected or criticized this marriage.

I think your own books will surport this claims




Can you give me sources to where scholars claim that Aisha was 16?

If you are ready to spend some time please read this.

http://ilovezakirnaik.com/madamayeshah/index.htm



Well if we can't come in to an agreement there is a chance he actually did marry a girl at the age of 6. So the accusations can be still valid. But I have to say that your approach in this particular issue is quite interesting and appreciable. Rather than trying to justify Prophet's action of having a sex with a 9 year old when he was 54(or 52, which is it?), you say that Aisha might not have been 9 at all. Which is fairly a better stand point and acceptable to a certain degree, even though it's still strange that a man of 54 would marry a girl of 19 anything other than having sexual desires for her.


What is your benchmark, who made this bench mark? Why a good man can’t marry a girl who reached puberty if their parents will so? I don’t mind as long as he is taking care of his young wife and able to satisfy and provide the things that she requires. Anyway prophet Mohammed’s purpose of marriage to aisha was totally different. it was purely for sociopolitical reason. The Prophet’s main concern was the future of Islam. He was interested in strengthening the Muslims by all bonds. This also explains the reason why he married the daughter of `Umar, his Second Successor. It was by his marriage to Juwayriyyah that he gained the support for Islam of the whole clan of Bani Al-Mustaliq and their allied tribes. It was through his marriage to Safiyyah that he neutralized a great section of the hostile Jews of Arabia. By accepting Mariya, the Copt from Egypt, as his wife, he formed a political alliance with a king of great magnitude. So his marriage to `Aisha could never be of anything save cementing his relation with Abu Bakr, `Aisha’s father.

If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam.

And the fact that she had spoken so dearly of the Prophet was indicative of the innocence of the marriage and of the impeccable character of her husband because given the trust enjoyed by her by the virtue of her relationship with him, she could have unleashed a vengeful attack against him by attributing to him words or deeds of horrendous nature if indeed she was a victim of his supposed lust, destroying both the Prophet and Islam.

No sexual abuse victim would ever spoke positively of her attacker, much less becoming a channel that promote love and understanding of him and the message which he had brought." it is quite surprise you and other non muslims are taking up this issues but not aisha.




This theory of yours makes no sense at all. There are many people through out the history who did hundreds of good deeds and who were praised by the society and in the end, ended up doing bad. How many good things a certain individual has done, is not a bearing to say that there's no way he could have done something bad.

For you bad thing may not be bad thing for others. Depend on the situation and purpose of the act.




.this incidence has been picked up by many non muslims who are hatred towards islam allege prophet mohammed to be a wrong man. see this matter has been made such a famous issue by christian missionaries though St. Joseph was an old man 90 at the time of marriage with the Mother of God Mary who was 12-14.this issue no one knows including christians themself,so imagine the amount of publicity made against prophet mohammed.

Irrelevant.

You are talking about age gap; I never come across someone asking to Christians the same question. Other than people bashing to prophet mohammed about his age gap with aisha.



I will bring these points forward after you provide me sources and proof to the claim that say's Aisha was actually 19 not 9. I have a reason for this. I did not say that I would base my conclusion about Prophet Muhammad on one point or one bad deed. But in Prophet Muhammad's case he didn't do it once. He married a child and had sex with her over and over until he died. He kept a child bride for many years. That is not just one bad deed. Mind you these are only the bad things he did, witch are relevant to this thread. There are many more.

19 or 9 my answer will be same, his purpose of the marriage totally different, my above replies are proving that he never fond of having child sex, neither u can bring any proof for such an incidence except his legal marriage with parents consent. As you quote He had sex with child bride until he dies; even if I agree for sake of argument, a person who has such likes should have done more than once and with more than one.also this accusation should have come from aisha herself if she was victim of this, but it is laughable that people who don’t want to see islam’s growth still keep on trying to screw the islam and its prophet with baseless points and the narrow own thinking.


No need to go in to points. One point is enough. It was quite clear to me that Prophet Muhammad was a sick man who married a child and had sex with her over and over until he died.

So really you had only one point in your careful study to conclude with. it is laughable… Your careful study looks ill and weak to me. First of all a careful study, can’t have one point to conclude with, next one careful study can’t ignore the purpose of the act and also, it has to have some more strong related proof with history of details. But you called prophet Mohammed is sick person based one legal marriage... So don’t call your study as careful study..Inshallah if you don’t trust, if u r adamant to change your mind with subjective view, time will answer you. u will regret soon.I will pray from Allah to give u good wisdom.

Well I think no one needs any wisdom just like the wisdom gave it to mohomed (have many wives) :rolleyes:
 

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If phophet muhammed was wise.
he would have realized from his supreme wisdom that he will be called as a PEDOPHILE in the future . so he would have been stying away from CONSUMING Ayisha at that little age and waited some time before humping her
on the other hand if all mighty allah is ALL MIGHTY and he knows the best

Allah would have prevented muhammed from nailing ayisha at the age of nine


So Either Mumammed is NOT AS WISE as muslims think or ALLAH is not knowing as best as muslims believe or muhammed don't give a shit about what allah says
:D:D

which one is the possible Explanation
:lol::lol:

LOL People have been trying for 1432 years to prove these lame arguments..but seems like things are going the other way :lol:
 
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Well I think no one needs any wisdom just like the wisdom gave it to mohomed (have many wives) :rolleyes:

Y2K Could you please shut up.I am not talking to you..first of all u don't know anything what is in your own scriptures.So far You never brought me a verse from your whole bible where Jesus him self say "I'm God and worship me". you still keep quoting some versus from your corrupted bible to prove nothing.

What Nonsense you are talking now,If I need I can expose your scriptural leaders & bible too, ONLY FACTS...Not in the ambiguous way that you proof our prophet was bad.
 

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Y2K Could you please shut up.I am not talking to you..first of all u don't know anything what is in your own scriptures.So far You never brought me a verse from your whole bible where Jesus him self say "I'm God and worship me". you still keep quoting some versus from your corrupted bible to prove nothing.

What Nonsense you are talking now,If I need I can expose your scriptural leaders & bible too, ONLY FACTS...Not in the ambiguous way that you proof our prophet was bad.

Dude what else you could expect from ppl like these, all know he's just another hater like ex- guy. none care about these..:lol:

What else can you expect, he claims the most corrupted religion in the history his path what else to prove, changed scriptures, false forgiveness, fake faith healing, fornication hiding churches, murder supporting popes, millionaire pasters with private jets..the list goes on..:rolleyes:
 

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Dude what else you could expect from ppl like these, all know he's just another hater like ex- guy. none care about these..:lol:

What else can you expect, he claims the most corrupted religion in the history his path what else to prove, changed scriptures, false forgiveness, fake faith healing, fornication hiding churches, murder supporting popes, millionaire pasters with private jets..the list goes on..:rolleyes:

First of all I am sorry i my words hurting u but I have no grudge ... I b'live in Jesus Christ only not mens ways & Traddition

anyway sorry mchan

God bless you :love:
 

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Y2K Could you please shut up.I am not talking to you..first of all u don't know anything what is in your own scriptures.So far You never brought me a verse from your whole bible where Jesus him self say "I'm God and worship me". you still keep quoting some versus from your corrupted bible to prove nothing.

What Nonsense you are talking now,If I need I can expose your scriptural leaders & bible too, ONLY FACTS...Not in the ambiguous way that you proof our prophet was bad.

I am sorry buddy OK I will shut my mouth bt I will speak the truth I will prove it ok

first tell me would u b'live in Bible as a 1st revalation of GOD ?
 

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First of all I am sorry i my words hurting u but I have no grudge ... I b'live in Jesus Christ only not mens ways & Traddition

anyway sorry mchan

God bless you :love:

LOL dude, what you believe as bible is changed by men according to ways traditions of time to suite their needs throughout the history..sorry to upset you :lol:
 

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    LOL dude, what you believe as bible is changed by men according to ways traditions of time to suite their needs throughout the history..sorry to upset you :lol:

    LMAO! Dude Quran is changed and there is even evidence to prove that it has parts written over the original text and some text has been erased!
    Sorry to upset you too
    :P:P:P

    here's the link
     

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    LMAO! Dude Quran is changed and there is even evidence to prove that it has parts written over the original text and some text has been erased!
    Sorry to upset you too
    :P:P:P

    here's the link

    ඉස්ලාමයට විරුද්දව උඹ කියන ඔය ඔක්කොම පල් බොරු, මොකද මම හැම ආගමක් ගැනම ඉගෙනගනිමින් සිටින නිසා, හැබැයි උඹට මෙහෙම කියන්න පුළුවං, ලංකාවේ සිටින හැම මුස්ලිම් මිනිහෙක්ම ඉස්ලාමය හරිවිදියට පිළිපදින්නේ නැහැ, නමුත් ඒ මිනිස්සුන්ගේ වැරදි වලට උන්ගේ ආගම පළි නැහැ. ඔය වගේම තමයි අනිත් ආගම්වලුත් මිනිස්සු කරන වැරදි වලට ආගම් පළි නැහැ.
     

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    ඉස්ලාමයට විරුද්දව උඹ කියන ඔය ඔක්කොම පල් බොරු, මොකද මම හැම ආගමක් ගැනම ඉගෙනගනිමින් සිටින නිසා, හැබැයි උඹට මෙහෙම කියන්න පුළුවං, ලංකාවේ සිටින හැම මුස්ලිම් මිනිහෙක්ම ඉස්ලාමය හරිවිදියට පිළිපදින්නේ නැහැ, නමුත් ඒ මිනිස්සුන්ගේ වැරදි වලට උන්ගේ ආගම පළි නැහැ. ඔය වගේම තමයි අනිත් ආගම්වලුත් මිනිස්සු කරන වැරදි වලට ආගම් පළි නැහැ.
    අනේ හිකනලෝ, බලපිය ලින්ක් එක! සාක්ශි එක්ක දාල තියෙන්නෙ. උඹේ කුරාන් එක වෙනස් කර කර, මක මක ලියපු මල ඉලව්වක් බව ඔප්පු කරල තියෙද්දි බොරුවට කෑ ගහලා "බොරු බොරු" කිව්වට වැඩක නැහැනේ
     

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    LOL People have been trying for 1432 years to prove these lame arguments..but seems like things are going the other way :lol:
    What's there to prove ? these are facts ! :rolleyes::rolleyes:
    yeah since you people have invaded , brutalized and destroyed 2500 year old cililizations in afghanistan , india , nepal etc and spread your so-called-vision by sword :P:P things happened to be going other way :lol::lol:
    But luckily not any more :):) people know what's going on. :D:D
     
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    Dude what else you could expect from ppl like these, all know he's just another hater like ex- guy. none care about these..:lol:

    What else can you expect, he claims the most corrupted religion in the history his path what else to prove, changed scriptures, false forgiveness, fake faith healing, fornication hiding churches, murder supporting popes, millionaire pasters with private jets..the list goes on..:rolleyes:

    absolutely correct.
     
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    I am sorry buddy OK I will shut my mouth bt I will speak the truth I will prove it ok

    first tell me would u b'live in Bible as a 1st revalation of GOD ?

    OK tell me the truth, not the made up stories and own way of explanation.this is our stand in believing in the old revelations. current bible is not the same version of injeel, it is changed version of injeel. apart from containing God' words,It also contains the word of Prophet, and also words of historians, as well as fabricated illogical things.It is totally not the word of God - No wonder the Christian scholars, they are keeping on revising the Bible.

    Taurah, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Moosa (a. s.) i.e. Moses (pbuh).
    Zaboor, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Dawood (a.s.) i.e. David (pbuh).
    Injeel, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Isa (A.S.) ie. Jesus (pbuh).
    Al-Quran, the last and final Wahi i.e. revelation given to the last and final Messenger Muhammad (pbuh).

    All the previous revelations sent only for their people
    All the revelations that came before Quran were only sent for their own people and were to be followed only for a particular time period.
    all of them changed by their followers, so we cant segregate which are God's words and which are not.
     

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    අනේ හිකනලෝ, බලපිය ලින්ක් එක! සාක්ශි එක්ක දාල තියෙන්නෙ. උඹේ කුරාන් එක වෙනස් කර කර, මක මක ලියපු මල ඉලව්වක් බව ඔප්පු කරල තියෙද්දි බොරුවට කෑ ගහලා "බොරු බොරු" කිව්වට වැඩක නැහැනේ

    අනේ king of පචයෝ මේක මගේ ආගමවත් කුරනයවත් නෙවයි, එහෙත් කොයි කාටත් මෙච්චර පච කෙලින්න එපා, මොකද අද නෙට් එකේ කාටත් බොරු කරන්න බැහැ, ඇත්තයි බොරුවයි දෙකම හදුනාගන්න පුළුවං කම්මැලි නැත්තම්, ඉස්සර මම උඹ කොටන ඒවා ඇත්තද කියල සැකයකුත් තිබුන නමුත් පසුව මට තේරුම් ගියා උඹ කවුද කියන්න. උඹට මේ අපහස කිරීම් දැන් part time job එකක් වෙලා තියෙන්නේ, මම මේ උඹට හොදින් කියන්නේ කාටත් අපහස කරන්න එපා බන්, නෙට් එකේ කාටත් බොරු කරන්න බෑ ඔක්කොම අහුවනවා, අනේ මචන් මම මෙහෙම ලියුවා කියල මට කුණුහරප රෙෆ් දාන්න එපා බන් කොච්චර උනත් අපි ඔක්කොම එකයි නේ බන්.
     

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    OK tell me the truth, not the made up stories and own way of explanation.this is our stand in believing in the old revelations. current bible is not the same version of injeel, it is changed version of injeel. apart from containing God' words,It also contains the word of Prophet, and also words of historians, as well as fabricated illogical things.It is totally not the word of God - No wonder the Christian scholars, they are keeping on revising the Bible.

    I tell you the truth Jesus is the truth , the way and the life no once goes to the father except trough him I do b'live Teachings of Jesus is more than enough to save you so

    Quran also state tha if you have any dobt refer the old version

    Actually Quran took of the names from the Bible but I know you won't believe it. I do b;live not a single word of the Bible will erase Jesus confirm it & if God can not protect him words we can not say that GOD is almighty. I have read all main revision the core massege is there almost all the versions so dont worry I think your quran also has many version & Hadith you do not want to confirm any version as authentic because all the versions includes some nasty things


    Taurah, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Moosa (a. s.) i.e. Moses (pbuh).
    Zaboor, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Dawood (a.s.) i.e. David (pbuh).
    Injeel, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Isa (A.S.) ie. Jesus (pbuh).
    Al-Quran, the last and final Wahi i.e. revelation given to the last and final Messenger Muhammad (pbuh).

    God has finally sent his own son there is no need of another prophet bt you still do not b'live ... best thing is pls do not redefine our word of God

    All the previous revelations sent only for their people

    No Jesus came to bring salavation to the whole world , OT is the one you refering OT is just a preparation for JEsus to come

    All the revelations that came before Quran were only sent for their own people and were to be followed only for a particular time period.
    No, Even Quran has some verses ask you people to refer old version if there is any doubt
    all of them changed by their followers, so we cant segregate which are God's words and which are not.

    No Bible clearly said that it is inspired by God it is not just a revalation of people I can not changes anything I can not add another book to the bible because I mere a man who witness of Our Jesus Christ , All the words they have ever uttered are not just their own words bt words guided by Holy Spirit that concept also very strange to you guys but i can not help it

    Why do hate us so much son ? why you have lot of problems with Son of GOD , you even do not know who you are praying you have no idea abt like you just have Mohomed's revelation Mohomed also not so sure abt his visions
    Mohomed's charactor is bad , allah also said some bad words , it seems allah hate christians but why? (I know the reason but I should not tell you ) anyway all the best for your future

    bye


    again i like the topic "the WISDOM of having many wives " :lol:
     
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    No Bible clearly said that it is inspired by God it is not just a revalation of people I can not changes anything I can not add another book to the bible because I mere a man who witness of Our Jesus Christ , All the words they have ever uttered are not just their own words bt words guided by Holy Spirit that concept also very strange to you guys but i can not help it

    So what If bible says it cant be changed.its better to debate short and with real proof rather than just saying hypothetically. u want me to prove your bible is corrupted with your own people data?


    Why do hate us so much son ? why you have lot of problems with Son of GOD , you even do not know who you are praying you have no idea abt like you just have Mohomed's revelation Mohomed also not so sure abt his visions
    Mohomed's charactor is bad , allah also said some bad words , it seems allah hate christians but why? (I know the reason but I should not tell you ) anyway all the best for your future

    Who hated you, may be you are attempting others to start hatred towards you.if you say Mohammed character is bad..it is all based on your biased and subjective issue despite neutral and good Christians are praising Mohammed. Hello are u saying we have no idea of whom are we praying.really it is very funny, u talk nonsense about us, though u guys r praying a human being who has not even asked u to worship him..of course we are praying in your words father (God) not any man. Allah is not hating you, rather he says in quran discuss with them and ask them to come to the right path in order for you to attain paradise.but u say he is hating you..utter nonsense.

    again i like the topic "the WISDOM of having many wives " :lol:


    my part I already explained. now can u explain the wisdom of many wives bible talking about

    In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

    In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.

    In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

    In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.

    And knowing that the Bible's Old Testament allowed before for men to have sex with girls who were at the age of 3, then it wouldn't surprise me that those Prophets who had 700wives for instance, had many very young teenage girls before as their wives.

    also What about the X-Rated Pornography in the Bible? have you ever read that? hope u didnt..shame on christians and bible a divine revealation talk about X rated porno, can this be a God's revealation..Common sense will answer..
     
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    Yeah i thinkn it is better to tell that the quran has changed by men because it has lots of Ungodly verses (truth is bitter)

    Seriously dude..pathetic that you have to go hide under some atheist looser to backup your religion..:P doh! for Christianity these days..

    (Let me guess your gonna reply with "Love" no grudge and god bless :lol:)