Converting to Islam

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    Lauren Booth (Former UK prime minister Tony Blair's Sister in Law) Converts to Islam..





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    Y2K

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    Ok you can covert them but let them have the freedom to leave Islam once they understand that there is no truth in it?

    Why can't you do it? if you are so sure that they will never leave Islam
     

    Y2K

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    We can see Buddhist people convert to Islam (very rare) Islam people converted to Buddhism, Christians to Buddhists, Buddhists to Christians, Christian to Islam, Islam to Christian

    But in One religion you cannot leave it once to embraced, but why? What matters is the real reason behind his/her change
     

    Thilinacba

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    Ithin dan oya mokadda meken kiyanna uthsaha karanne? apitat convert wenna kiyalada? :baffled: :angry: me sirawata wena wadak nadda ? ubat dan zakir naya ge job eka baragatta da?
     

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    Ithin dan oya mokadda meken kiyanna uthsaha karanne? apitat convert wenna kiyalada? :baffled: :angry: me sirawata wena wadak nadda ? ubat dan zakir naya ge job eka baragatta da?

    Yeah they have no other way of converting people ...හරිනම් ඉතින් දහම් අවබොධය තුලින් නෙ ජිවිත වෙනස් කරන්න ඔනැ, මම හිතන්නෙ දහමක් ගැන කතා කරන්න තරම් දෙයක් නැතිද මන්දා? සාමන්යෙන් ආගම් ශ්‍රස්තුවරයාගෙ චරිතය ගැන කතා කරනවා අදර්ශයට ගන්නවා මෙතනදි එකත් කරන්න බැ

    ඉතින් Force Conversion විතරයි එකම පිහිට ඉතින් බොරුවට හරි කියනවා අරයා ඉස්ලාම් දහම වැලද ගත්තා මෙයා ඉස්ලාම් දහම වැලද ගත්තා කියලා පොඩි ප්‍රශ්නයක් දෙකක් දෙවියන් ගැන හැවුවාම අර පොතෙත් උත්තර නැ

    තරහ වෙන්න එපා මෙහෙම කිව්වාට මෙවා පෙන්නුවා කියලා අපෙ රටෙ බෞද්ධ ජනයාව නම් රවට්ටන්න බැ


    අබාධ පිවිසුමක් විතරක් මොකටද ආබාධ පිටවිමකුත් නොදෙන්නෙ මන්ද? :baffled:
     

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    In Islam, force conversion is completely forbidden.

    A non Muslim should only accept the religion in his own will that he believes in

    the first foremost " that there is only 1 God " and then his angels, his prophets and the books"

    Leaving Islam does not include death penalty unless he or she, spreaded false messaged and rumors even that is subjected to judges and others and not individuals can take law to the hand.
    However, in most families due to their prestige they kill in the name of God which is utterly forbidden these has happened in several villages especially in Taliban . Now the west has named this has honor killing.

    If you accept a religion in fear, then you are not a true believer !!
     

    Y2K

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    In Islam, force conversion is completely forbidden.

    A non Muslim should only accept the religion in his own will that he believes in

    the first foremost " that there is only 1 God " and then his angels, his prophets and the books"

    Leaving Islam does not include death penalty unless he or she, spreaded false messaged and rumors even that is subjected to judges and others and not individuals can take law to the hand
    .

    DO not tell lies mchan you are living in a non-mulsim country but go and see what happen in Saudi (Home of Islam) death is the panalty for leaving islam you can come to Islam but there is no turning back

    Islam violating a basic Human right


    However, in most families due to their prestige they kill in the name of God which is utterly forbidden these has happened in several villages especially in Taliban . Now the west has named this has honor killing.

    If you accept a religion in fear, then you are not a true believer !![/
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    The bitter truth is all the people killing in the name of Allah, Koran even says that their coming Madhi will kill all the unb;livers . while they are killing they say Allahukabar !

    Islam is really dangerous !!!! If you have any idea just think before you leap :yes:
     

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    අපි දැන් බලමු මේ අය කොහොමද මේ මරණ දඩුවම එහෙමත් නැතිනම් ඉස්ලාම් දහම හැර යන අයට හිමි වන මරණ දඩුවම කෙසෙද සාදාරනිකරනය කරන්නෙ කියලා?


    Dr zak niak justifing murdering for apostates (those who leave islam)

    If you want to leave islam you cant unless you want to be murdered as per shariah (islamic law) traditions. What kind of religion forces its adherants to stay within the religion if their heart is not in it?

    Fear And Control = Islam

    Do you want to be scared all your life? or do you want to break free the shackles of islam and muhammad has on you.
     

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    Islam: "Whoever Changes His Religion - Kill Him" II


    There is a consensus by all four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (i.e., Maliki, Hanbali, Hanafi, and Shafii), as well as Shiite jurists, that apostates from Islam must be put to death. Averroes (d. 1198): An apostate...is to be executed by agreement in the case of a man, because of the words of the Prophet, 'Slay those who change their din [religion]'.... (vol. 2, p. 552).

    Even the contemporary (i.e., 1991) Al-Azhar (Cairo) Islamic Research Academy-endorsed Shafii manual of Islamic Law, 'Umdat al-Salik (pp. 595-96) states Leaving Islam is the ugliest form of unbelief (kufr) and the worst.... When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostasizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed. In such a case, it is obligatory...to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed. Al-Azhar University ( الأزهر الشريف) is the "the leading institution for Sunni learning in the Islamic world".

    The Qur'an:
    Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"

    Qur'an (9:11-12) - "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist." The Hadith make no distinction of how a Muslim came to be a Muslim. Apostasy is always punished by death.

    Other verses that seem to support the many Hadith demanding death for apostates are Qur'an verses 2:217, 9:73-74, 88:21, 5:54, and 9:66.

    Advocates for killing apostates have pointed out that the supporting hadith are reliable and thus qualify as law according to verse 4:80 - "Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah."



    From the Hadith:

    The reason why executing apostates has always been well-ensconced in Islamic law is that there is an indisputable record of Muhammad and his companions doing exactly that.

    Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "


    Muslim kills ....... :angry:

    Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations:

    (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,)
    (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and
    (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."


    :no:


    Bukhari (84:57) - "[In the words of] Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

    Bukhari (89:271) - A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to "the verdict of Allah and his apostle."

    Bukhari (84:58) - "There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, 'Who is this (man)?' Abu Muisa said, 'He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.' Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, 'I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.' Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, 'Then we discussed the night prayers'"

    Bukhari (84:64-65) - "Allah's Apostle: 'During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.'"

    Please note, Muslim apologetics normally quote verse 2:256 which states "Let there be no compulsion in religion, for truth stands out from error" and a fragment of verse 10:99-100, "Wouldst thou (Muhammad) compel men until they are believers?" They are abrogated by later verses, such as verse 9:29, which clearly commands Muslims to fight unbelievers until they relent and either accept Islam or a state of humiliation under Islamic rule (an obvious illustration of compulsion).

    These apologists also ignore the fact that apostasy is not mere unbelief, but unbelief that follows belief, which neither of these verses address. Muhammad's recognition of the distinction is reflected in his own deeds, following his capture of Mecca, and in those of his companions following his death.


    For more information, please visit:

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    http://www.answering-islam.org/

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/
     

    Y2K

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    Christian GOD vs Islamic God

    in Islam ..... found adultory

    These women were sentenced with lashes and now stoning to death.





    This is what did Jesus do ....... (He has all authority to forgive sins because he is equal to GOD)

    Same kind of people were there try to stone her and try to fool Jesus


    1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

    But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

    9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

    11 “No one, sir,” she said.

    “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
    John 8:1-11
     

    Y2K

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    So Jesus forgive sins, we know God alone can forgive sins

    We both b'live that Jesus sent by God (the Father) but Jesus himself forgive sins therefore Jesus is GOD

    Otherwise Jesus is not from GOD it is just like he go against the GOD
     

    Y2K

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    khari (89:271) - A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to "the verdict of Allah and his apostle."


    හොදට කුරාණය කියවලා බැලුවොත් ඔබට පෙනෙවි අල්ලාට තියන ලොකුම ප්‍රශ්නය ක්‍රිස්තුස් වහන්සෙ එහෙමත් නැතිනම් ක්‍රිස්තියානි අනුගමිකයන් බව

    ඇයි කියලා මම කියනවාට වඩා හොදයි වුවමනාවක් තියෙන්වා නම් ඔයාලාම ස්වයන් අදයනයක් කරලා බලන්න
     

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    There is a consensus by all four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (i.e., Maliki, Hanbali, Hanafi, and Shafii), as well as Shiite jurists, that apostates from Islam must be put to death. Averroes (d. 1198): An apostate...is to be executed by agreement in the case of a man, because of the words of the Prophet, 'Slay those who change their din [religion]'.... (vol. 2, p. 552).

    මෙකයි එ කාලේ මෙ අය කටට එන එක කිව්ව නිසා අද මුස්ලිම් අයටත් කට උත්තර නැ, ඉතින් පුරසාරම් දොඩනවා ඇරෙන්න වෙන ක්‍රමයක් නැ මුස්ලිම් කරණය වියාප්ත කරන්න නමුත් මෙහෙම කතාවක් කියලා තියෙන්වා මොහොමඩ් තුමා පොඩ්ඩක් හොදට අපක්ශපාතිව කියවලා බලන්න
    :frown:
     

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    Deuteronomy 13:6-10

    If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

    We Muslims, accept that God guided the people of the Moses and Jesus( Peace be upon them all) as he did to guide the Muhamed (Peace be upon him) So, he gave them Holy Books. So, If it is from God then there wouldnt be any discepreinceis of Law :) So the same Law applies to all his Prophets :)
    Further, machan check those videos that are uploaded of Sheik Yusuf Estes and Lauren Booth who from the western countries.

    With Imam Mahdi so does Jesus Christ comes (Peace be Upon Him) .

    Then if me and you are lucky to be at that time, Then we shall shall witness the truth and be safeguared from the Anti Christ( Dajjal)
    Where everything will be United. Lets wait for that bro :)
     

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    Deuteronomy 13:6-10

    If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

    We Muslims, accept that God guided the people of the Moses and Jesus( Peace be upon them all) as he did to guide the Muhamed (Peace be upon him) So, he gave them Holy Books. So, If it is from God then there wouldnt be any discepreinceis of Law :) So the same Law applies to all his Prophets :)
    Further, machan check those videos that are uploaded of Sheik Yusuf Estes and Lauren Booth who from the western countries.

    With Imam Mahdi so does Jesus Christ comes (Peace be Upon Him) .

    Then if me and you are lucky to be at that time, Then we shall shall witness the truth and be safeguared from the Anti Christ( Dajjal)
    Where everything will be United. Lets wait for that bro :)


    Thank you for bring old law but then you prove that jesus works against the law (actually jesus completed the law) Jesus brough salvation we know only god can forgive sins but here Jesus forgive sins jesus never ask them to stone her in law terms Jesus become the Obiter dictum

    Well, lets put the bible in proper context. Who was this written to? The Jewish people. What was the purpose? The Jews were God's chosen people and were expected to live Holy lives if they wanted God to bless them. (Otherwise you people say God let his own people astray) God had no tolerance in that day with his people to allow them to spread idolatry and worship false God's. This is not for the New Testament Christian today and was for a specific time, people, and reason. :yes:


    So Jesus forgive sins, we know God alone can forgive sins

    We both b'live that Jesus sent by God (the Father) but Jesus himself forgive sins therefore Jesus is GOD

    Otherwise Jesus is not from GOD it is just like he go against the GOD

    Jesus works against the sabath laws also because law is to serve people not to distroy people

    Actually Jesus make all things New

    I have explained elsewhere why there were such a laws in those days I think no need to post it again and again

    one thing i have to tell you , your Jesus is not my Jesus

    Your God is not my God , (I know who is he)

    All the best
     

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    In your heart
    මෙ කෙන් පෙන්නෙ අවසානෙයෙදි ඔබ පිලිගන්නවා ඉස්ලාමයෙ නිදහසක් නොමැති බව ආගම අතහැර යන අයට එහෙම නෙද?

    මා අභියොග කරනවා පුලුවන් නම් ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ ඉගැන්විම් වලින් පෙන්වන්න ? එතුමා සමාව දුන්නා මිසක් මිනි මරන්න කිව්වෙ නැ එතුමා තමයි දෙවියන්ගෙ පුත්‍රයා මුස්ලිම් ජෙසුස් නොහොත් ඉසා යනු අල්ලාගෙ තවත් එක පනිවුඩ කරුවකු පනයි, නමුත් අවසාන කෙනා වැඩේ අනාගත්ත

    අපෙ ආගමෙ දේවල් හොරකම් කරලා එවා වික්‍රතිකරන්න අපු කෙනා කව්ද කියලා අපි හිදින් දන්නවා

    මිනිමරලා හරි ඉස්ලාම් ලොකයක් බිහිවෙන්වානම් උබලා කැමති එකනෙ අර මාදි කරායා එනකල් කට ඇරගෙන ඉන්නෙ අනෙ මන්දා බන්