We Will Destroy Ali Sina's Accusations

sirajstc

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    Rebuttal to Ali Sina's article "Juwairiyah"
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    Bassam Zawadi & Umar
    This article is in response to Ali Sina's article "Juwairiyah" which can be accessed here.

    Ali Sina said:
    In the history of the Arabs that predates the arrival of Islam, never before had there been such wars, certainly none on the scale and magnitude of those that were instigated by Muhammad the founder of Islam. Previous battles in Arabia had mainly centered on tribal differences and were confined to bouts of squabbling with some fights. With the introduction of Islam came not only war, but also an unrelenting genocide and terror that would quickly become integral components in furthering Islam's expansionism.
    The early years of Muhammad's prophetic carrier, in his native town Mecca, were peaceful. After 13 year of preaching no more than 70 or 80 people had embraced his cause. Not all of them were able fighting men. That explains why those early years were peaceful. Muslims did not have the strength to fight. However soon after Muhammad migrated and settled in Medina, and the Arab population of that town accepted his religion, he began invading and looting first the merchant caravans and then the human settlements to survive and to provide for his followers who had accompanied him and because of their lack of expertise had a difficult time finding employments in Medina.

    Our Response:
    When the Muslims migrated from Makkah to Medina, they left all their possessions in Makkah. Later on the Quraysh took all the possessions of the Muslims in Makkah, and led by Abu Sufyan they took all those possessions to Syria so that it could be sold. So If Ali Sina is referring to the caravans that held Muslim belongings that were to be sold, then I see no problem that it was attacked. Let's ask Ali Sina if someone would take all his belongings in his house, then sell them, would Ali Sina just sit quietly, and let people take his possessions and sell it? I don't think so. Let us also note that this was how the Battle of Badr began. (Note: It wasn't just one caravan, it was many but The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) intercepted the caravan specifically led by Abu Sufyan mainly because it would deliver a big blow to the Meccan glory, and Abu Sufyan, who learned of these intentions, led his caravan out of the main route and inclined it towards the Red Sea. Abu Sufyan sent a messenger to the Quraysh, telling them:
    O Quraysh! your merchandise! it is with Abu Sufyan. The caravan is being intercepted by Muhammad and his companions. I cannot say what would have happened to them. Help! Help! (Muhammad Husayn Haykal. Hayat Muhammad, Cairo 1974, pg. 256)
    Also, I want to add on the fact that the Quraysh began to make preparations for an attack on Medina, which they believed would exterminate the nascent power of Islam. But before fighting the decisive battle they were anxious to enlist the support and sympathies of the Non-Muslim tribes living around Medina. (See Abdul Hameed Siddiqui, The Life of Muhammad peace be upon him, p. 175-176).
    Ali Sina states in his article that Muhammad (peace be upon him) attacked human settlements to survive and to provide for his followers "soon after" he migrated to Medina. I honestly don't know what is his source. If he is referring to the attacks on the surroundings tribes, then we'll get to that later on Insha'Allah. But here is how Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) helped the Muhajirun (emigrants from Makkah) who left everything in Makkah:
    Prayers being thus regulated, the Prophet next turned his attention to cementing the ties of brotherhood amongst the Muslims of Medina who were called Ansar, and the Muhajirun, i.e., emigrants from Mecca. It was a necessary step since the refugees who had left their hearths and homes and had said goodbye to friends and relatives were feeling lonely. To raise their feelings of loneliness, and to attune them to the changed circumstances, a new fraternity was established amongst the Muslims of Mecca and those of Medina.
    This brotherhood was indeed unique in the history of the world. The fellow-feeling and love on which this new relationship was established found a wonderful expression. For example Sa'd b. Sabi a Helper said to his fellow brother 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Awf, " I am the richest man amongst the Helpers. I am glad to share my property half and half with you. I have two wives, I am ready to divorce one, and after the expiry of 'iddah, you may marry her." But 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Awf was not prepared to accept anything : neither property nor home. So he blessed his brothers and said : " Kindly direct me to the markets so that I may make my fortune with my own hands." The Helpers were extremely generous to their brethren-in-faith. They once approached the Holy Prophet with the request that their orchards should be distributed equally between the Muslims of Medina and their brethren from Mecca. But the Prophet however, decided that the refugees would work in the orchards along with the Helpers and the yield would be divided equally amongst them. (Abdul Hameed Siddiqui, The Life of Muhammad peace be upon him, p. 138-139).


    Now continuing with Ali Sina's argument...



    More...http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/rebuttal_to_ali_sina_s_article__juwairiyah_
     

    sirajstc

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    Rebuttal to Ali Sina's article "Sex in Paradise"
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    Bassam Zawadi
    This article is in response to Ali Sina's article "Sex in Paradise?" which can be accessed here.

    Ali Sina said:
    In Surah 44, Muhammad first describes the hell quite vividly.
    43 Surely the tree of the Zaqqum,
    44 Is the food of the sinful
    45 Like dregs of oil; it shall boil in (their) bellies,
    46 Like the boiling of hot water.
    47 Seize him, then drag him down into the middle of the hell;
    48 Then pour above his head of the torment of the boiling water:
    49 Taste; you forsooth are the mighty, the honorable:
    50 Surely this is what you disputed about.
    After giving this dreadful description of the hell and the tortures preferred by Allah the Prophet promises lots of goodies to those who became Muslims.

    My Response:
    Was Ali Sina expecting a pleasant expression of Hell?

    Ali Sina said:
    After giving this dreadful description of the hell and the tortures preferred by Allah the Prophet promises lots of goodies to those who became Muslims.
    51 Surely those who guard (against evil) are in a secure place,
    52 In gardens and springs;
    53 They shall wear of fine and thick silk, (sitting) face to face;
    54 Thus (shall it be), and We will wed them with Houris pure, beautiful ones.


    In Surah 52 there is another description of the heaven and hell:
    17 Surely those who guard (against evil) shall be in gardens and bliss
    18 Rejoicing because of what their Lord gave them, and their Lord saved them from the punishment of the burning fire.
    19 Eat and drink pleasantly for what you did,
    20 Reclining on thrones set in lines, and We will unite them to large-eyed beautiful ones.
    21 And (as for) those who believe and their offspring follow them in faith, We will unite with them their offspring and We will not diminish to them aught of their work; every man is responsible for what he shall have wrought.
    22 And We will aid them with fruit and flesh such as they desire.
    23 They shall pass therein from one to another a cup wherein there shall be nothing vain nor any sin.

    Amazingly this paradise promised by the holy prophet satisfies even the pedophiles.
    24 And round them shall go boys of theirs as if they were hidden pearls.

    Also in Surah 76:19 Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men.
    And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls.
    Again in Surah 56 the Prophet gives the glad tidings of the paradise to his followers and says:
    59 And besides these two are two (other) gardens:
    60 Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    61 Both inclining to blackness.
    62 Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    63 In both of them are two springs gushing forth.
    64 Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    65 In both are fruits and palms and pomegranates.
    66 Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    67 In them are goodly things, beautiful ones.
    68 Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    69 Pure ones confined to the pavilions.
    70 Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    71 Man has not touched them before them nor jinni.
    72 Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    73 Reclining on green cushions and beautiful carpets.
    74 Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
    75 Blessed be the name of your Lord, the Lord of Glory and Honor!


    In Surah 56 , there is promise of houris as well as youths that never age for the gratification of Muslim men.
    11 These are they who are drawn nigh (to Allah),
    12 In the gardens of bliss.
    13 A numerous company from among the first,
    14 And a few from among the latter.
    15 On thrones decorated,
    16 Reclining on them, facing one another.
    17 Round about them shall go youths never altering in age,
    18 With goblets and ewers and a cup of pure drink;
    19 They shall not be affected with headache thereby, nor shall they get exhausted,
    20 And fruits such as they choose,
    21 And the flesh of fowl such as they desire.
    22 And pure, beautiful ones,
    23 The like of the hidden pearls:
    24 A reward for what they used to do.

    I believe this should suffice to prove that not only Allah promises "virgin houris" to the righteous Muslims but also "never-aging boys" as white as pearls.
    There are also several hadith that confirm sex in paradise. Hadith are the sayings of the Prophet. The following are few of them

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 402
    Narrated Abdullah bin Qais:
    Allah's Apostle said, "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. And there are two gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of silver; and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of so-and-so (i.e. gold) and nothing will prevent the people staying in the Garden of Eden from seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face."
     

    sirajstc

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    My Response:
    I fail to see the problem with sex in paradise. These houris will be Inshallah (god willing) our wives in heaven.
    Surah 4:57
    And those who believe and do good works. WE shall make them enter Gardens through which streams flow, to abide therein for ever; therein shall they have pure spouses, and WE shall admit them to a place of plenteous shade.

    The word here is AZWAAJ. In Arabic, it means spouse.
    Notice the key word; SPOUSES. The houris will be our spouses. If a man has sex with his wife, can that be considered as an immoral act? No, of course not, since she is his spouse.
    So I ask you, if a man can legitimately have sex with his spouse here on earth, then why can't a man legitimately have sex with his spouse in paradise?
    Where in the verse does it say that the believers will engage in sexual acts with these boys?
    This sick argument has already been addressed here.

    Ali Sina said:
    The modern Muslim apologists try to present Islam as a religion of peace yet it is not hard to find many hadiths that call for war and promise great rewards in the other world and in this one to the Mujahid who takes the arm and fights for Allah.

    Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 46 Narrated Abu Huraira:
    I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The example of a Mujahid in Allah's Cause-- and Allah knows better who really strives in His Cause----is like a person who fasts and prays continuously. Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty."

    Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 48 The Prophet said, ... "Paradise has one-hundred grades which Allah has reserved for the Mujahidin who fight in His Cause,

    Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 72
    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    The Prophet said, "Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah)."
    Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba: Our Prophet told us about the message of our Lord that "Whoever amongst us is killed will go to Paradise." Umar asked the Prophet, "Is it not true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and their's (i.e. those of the Pagan's) will go to the (Hell) fire?" The Prophet said, "Yes."
    My Response:
    Anti Islamics show one verse where it says, "kill the disbelievers wherever you see them" (9:5) and everyone believes that is what Islam teaches. They don't even bother reading the verse before or after it or knowing the context of when it was sent down.
    THESE VERSES ONLY APPLY DURING TIMES OF WAR. I REPEAT, JIHAD VERSES ONLY APPLY DURING TIMES OF WAR (read http://www.answering-christianity.com/islam_and_terrorism.htm, however for a more detailed and better understanding then you must read Harun Yahya's book "Islam Condemns Terrorism" at http://www.harunyahya.com/terrorism1.php)
    I hope you all will read them and be open-minded and begin to appreciate what Islam really is and what it really stands for.
    Ali Sina said:
    The Hadiths like these abound and there are also many verses of Quran the glorify Jihad (holy wars). As it is clear these wars were not defensive but were offensive wars. See how Muhammad prepared his followers to attack the lands that had nothing to do with Islam.
    Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 48 Narrated Khalid bin Madan:
    Um Haram informed us that she heard the Prophet saying, "Paradise is granted to the first batch of my followers who will undertake a naval expedition." Um Haram added, I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Will I be amongst them?' He replied, 'You are amongst them.' The Prophet then said, 'The first army amongst' my followers who will invade Caesar's City will be forgiven their sins.' I asked, 'Will I be one of them, O Allah's Apostle?' He replied in the negative."

    My Response:
    Brother Karim sufficiently addresses the issue of Jihad in Islam over here.
    Ali Sina said:
    Therefore it is safe to say that the essence of Islam is expressed in the following hadith.
    Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 73
    Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abi Aufa:
    Allah's Apostle said, "Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords."
    My Response:
    Let us see the context of the hadith...
    Saheeh Bukhari
    Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 210.
    Narrated By Salim Abu An-Nadr : The freed slave of 'Umar bin 'Ubaidullah who was 'Umar's clerk: 'Abdullah bin Abi Aufa wrote him (i.e. 'Umar) a letter that contained the following:
    "Once Allah's Apostle (during a holy battle), waited till the sun had declined and then he got up among the people and said, "O people! Do not wish to face the enemy (in a battle) and ask Allah to save you (from calamities) but if you should face the enemy, then be patient and let it be known to you that Paradise is under the shades of swords." He then said,, "O Allah! The Revealer of the (Holy) Book, the Mover of the clouds, and Defeater of Al-Ahzab (i.e. the clans of infidels), defeat them infidels and bestow victory upon us."

    Yes, the Prophet did say this but if you read carefully, you will notice that he said this during a time of war! This was stated during the battle of Khandaq (trench).

    Recommended Reading
    http://www.harunyahya.com/paradise01.php
     

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    අනේ දෙකයි පනහේ ගොබිලෝ තොට පුලුවන්ද අලි සීනා එක්ක හැප්පෙන්න, උඹට වඩා වැඩකාරයෝ, කුරාන්-හදිස් බීපු එවුන් පවා අලි සීනා ගාව දන ගැහුවා. එහෙම නැත්තන් ගූ පෙර පෙර පැනලා දිව්වා. උඹත් මාර ජෝක්ස් තමයි දාන්නේ. :rofl::rofl:
     
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    අනේ දෙකයි පනහේ ගොබිලෝ තොට පුලුවන්ද අලි සීනා එක්ක හැප්පෙන්න, උඹට වඩා වැඩකාරයෝ, කුරාන්-හදිස් බීපු එවුන් පවා අලි සීනා ගාව දන ගැහුවා. එහෙම නැත්තන් ගූ පෙර පෙර පැනලා දිව්වා. උඹත් මාර ජෝක්ස් තමයි දාන්නේ. :rofl::rofl:

    අරූ එක බොරුවක් වහන්න තව බොරු සීයක් ලියල. :yes: ආ නෑ නෑ කොපි පේස්ට් කරලා. :D:D මේක නිකං හරියට බළලා ගලේ පැහැරූ බෙට්ට වහන්න උත්සහා කිරීමක් වගෙයි. :yes::yes: