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How many apps support Physx? It's almost dead. CUDA and Open CL do the same thing. Try to google a little bit, don't go for the marketing hype. Adobe fully support OpenCL.

BTW AMD 7XXX series and RX200 series both use the same architecture, only name change. They both use CGN core. Again google .

nVIDIA 6XX/7XX both use same architecture. Most of them are rebranded cards.

there are almost 30+ AAA games that support PhysX and in certain games like Mafia 2, Arkham series PhysX is really awesome to have without PhysX the game looks pale so it's not almost dead beside since PhysX SDK 3.4 ( as I remember) they are gonna introduce PhysX: FleX which is really useful for simulating particles and other thing is Nvidia PhysX SDK is a core part of major engines which include Unreal Engine 3, Unreal Engine 4, Unity and in number of upcoming games like Arkham Knight and Assassin's creed unity. so don't talk if you have no idea about something. :P

OpenCL might be good I don't deny the fact but since he is also for gaming it would be a wise idea to go for Nvidia cards.

AMD 7XXX series and RX200 might use the same architecture but the processing power ,clock speed are significantly higher in latter said series beside why would someone go for older series when there is a latest one?

nVIDIA 6XX/7XX both use same architecture// not really Nvidia 750 uses Maxwell architecture :P so again don't talk if you have no idea about something. :P beside like I pointed out early it's not all about architecture there are like processing power which is an important part in here.

http://www.hwcompare.com/14801/geforce-gtx-660-vs-geforce-gtx-760/
if you don't believe you can check this comparison chat and then you can find out what you believe is a delusion because architecture is just a part of the card it doesn't determine the performance of the card solely.
 
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    Sorry forgot about recent 750 release, but come on... it's slower than old AMD 7850 and in UK you can buy 7850 for around £100. You still think nVIDIA is better? who's delusional? Stop being a fanboy, he's looking to do video editing for a job/business, for him best price/performance card is the most suitable solution. not the marketing hype made by fanboy...:)
     

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    Sorry forgot about recent 750 release, but come on... it's slower than old AMD 7850 and in UK you can buy 7850 for around £100. You still think nVIDIA is better? who's delusional? Stop being a fanboy, he's looking to do video editing for a job/business, for him best price/performance card is the most suitable solution. not the marketing hype made by fanboy...:)
    The R7 265 beats a GTX750Ti easily, for gaming. Not too sure about video editing though.
     

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    Sorry forgot about recent 750 release, but come on... it's slower than old AMD 7850 and in UK you can buy 7850 for around You still think nVIDIA is better? who's delusional? Stop being a fanboy, he's looking to do video editing for a job/business, for him best price/performance card is the most suitable solution. not the marketing hype made by fanboy...:)

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    Arkham Knight

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    Sorry forgot about recent 750 release, but come on... it's slower than old AMD 7850 and in UK you can buy 7850 for around £100. You still think nVIDIA is better? who's delusional? Stop being a fanboy, he's looking to do video editing for a job/business, for him best price/performance card is the most suitable solution. not the marketing hype made by fanboy...:)

    I have never been a fanboy of either products I just said a fact how nvidia cards are useful. he is not from UK he is obviously from Sri lanka and in Sri lanka the prices are different. gtx 750 is much more cheaper in Sri lanka which is roughly 22.5 k and and 7850 is 32k. :P
    anyway the gtx 760 card is more better it's just 42k in barclays and more powerful than the 7850
    don't believe me? then here is a proof.
    http://www.hwcompare.com/14809/geforce-gtx-760-vs-radeon-hd-7850/

    so you get basically PhyX and CUDA support and DirectX12 support yeah :P do you even know ATi 7000 series doesn't support to upcoming Dx12 API? so it's totally useless in this case when going to play upcoming video games but every single card above GTX 400< series supported to Dx12 API so buying a GTX 760 for 42k price is more beneficial and more productive. in 3dmax there is a rendering method called iray Renderer which is backed up by CUDA technolgy and it nearly takes 225 seconds to render a scene. beside there are CUDA games like Just cause and CUDA video encoding software, CUDA password crackers and CUDA is also the industry standard and Nvidia heavily funds the technology. I don't deny the fact the when it comes to ATI there are benefits too like you said OpenCL is useful and ATI has more processing power but when it comes to the bigpicture there is only a slight different in processing power and you get in that price PhysX and DirectX 12 support with Nvidia cards so going for a Nvidia card is better overall than going for ATI for a slight performance increment in processing power at same price.

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    VGA eka meka neda hodai kiwwe ???
    Asus Geforce GTX 760 Direct CU II 2GB GDDR5

    VGA Card-Zotac Geforce GTX760 2GBDDR5 - 45,250.00

    මේ ගානට ළගින් තියෙන ATI card එක තමයි R9 270x ඒක 38,000.00
    ඒකේ Performance එක අඩුයි.

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    ඊළගට තියෙන card එක තමයි R9 280X ඒක 50,000 යි (5000 ක් නමුත් වැඩි පුර දෙන්න ඕනේ) නමුත් Performance එක හොදයි නමුත් current bill එක වැඩි වෙයි මොකද ඒක 250W. ඒ වගේම උබට PhyX effects
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFkDrKvBRU

    නැති වෙනව game ගහන කොට, CUDA
    technology එක නැති වෙනවා. එතකොට 3d MAX , Maya වල CUDA rendering use කරන්න බෑ.

    ඒ ටික හැරුණූ කොට වෙන පාඩුවක් නෑ
    R9 280X එකක් ගැනිමේ වාසිය තමයි ඒකේ FLOPS ගාණ වැඩියි (4.1 TFLOPS) නමුත් GTX 760 එකේ FLOPS ගාන 2.3 TFLOPS ඒක නිසා Bitcoin mining වලට හොදයි ATI එක, ඒ වගේම CUDA නැති වුනාට OpenCL හම්බ වෙනවා ඒක Optimize නම් උබට ඉක්මනින්ම render කරගන්න පුලුවන් (පොඩ්ඩක් fast වෙයි).

    http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/geforce-gtx-760-june25-2013-uk.html
    http://cdn.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2013-10-07/280x-2.jpg


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    Chathuranga5

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    VGA Card-Zotac Geforce GTX760 2GBDDR5 - 45,250.00

    මේ ගානට ළගින් තියෙන ATI card එක තමයි R9 270x ඒක 38,000.00
    ඒකේ Performance එක අඩුයි.

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    ඊළගට තියෙන card එක තමයි R9 280X ඒක 50,000 යි (5000 ක් නමුත් වැඩි පුර දෙන්න ඕනේ) නමුත් Performance එක හොදයි නමුත් current bill එක වැඩි වෙයි මොකද ඒක 250W. ඒ වගේම උබට PhyX effects
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFkDrKvBRU

    නැති වෙනව game ගහන කොට, CUDA
    technology එක නැති වෙනවා. එතකොට 3d MAX , Maya වල CUDA rendering use කරන්න බෑ.

    ඒ ටික හැරුණූ කොට වෙන පාඩුවක් නෑ
    R9 280X එකක් ගැනිමේ වාසිය තමයි ඒකේ FLOPS ගාණ වැඩියි (4.1 TFLOPS) නමුත් GTX 760 එකේ FLOPS ගාන 2.3 TFLOPS ඒක නිසා Bitcoin mining වලට හොදයි ATI එක, ඒ වගේම CUDA නැති වුනාට OpenCL හම්බ වෙනවා ඒක Optimize නම් උබට ඉක්මනින්ම render කරගන්න පුලුවන් (පොඩ්ඩක් fast වෙයි).

    http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/geforce-gtx-760-june25-2013-uk.html
    http://cdn.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2013-10-07/280x-2.jpg


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    ethakota machan uba kiyanne Zotac Geforce GTX760 2GBDDR5 - 45,250.00 VGA card eka ganna kiyalada ? :)
     

    Arkham Knight

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    ethakota machan uba kiyanne Zotac Geforce GTX760 2GBDDR5 - 45,250.00 VGA card eka ganna kiyalada ? :)

    GTX 760 FLOPS ගාණ 2258GFLOPS , R9 270x එකේ FLOPS ගාන 2688GFLOPS
    එතකොට Rendering කරන කොට පොඩි Speed එකක් තියෙනවා R9 270x එකේ නමුත් ඒක එච්චර ලොකු ගාණක් නෙවෙයි. FLOPS කියන්නේ r FLoating-point Operations Per Second
    කියන එකටයි මේකෙන් කියන්නේ processor එකේ power එක ගැනයි (තත්පරයට කරන්න පුලුවන් ගණනය කිරිම් /දශමස්ථාන) නමුත් PhysX ,CUDA technology නැති වෙනවා උබ ATI card එකකට ගියොත් ඒක නිසා මම කියන්නේ Nvidia ගන්න කියලයි.

    මේ තියෙන්නේ nvidia physx. මේ effects උබට ගන්න පුලුවන් Nvidia card එකකට ගියොත් විතරයි.


     

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    so you get basically PhyX and CUDA support and DirectX12 support yeah :P do you even know ATi 7000 series doesn't support to upcoming Dx12 API?

    AMD support DX12 for all CGN series cards, that include 7XXX/8xxx & R 2XX cards. It's nVidia who doesn't even fully support DX 11.1/11.2(Google it..)

    Physx is almost dead mate. Very few games support it and if you enable it,your game frame rate will drop (Single card). :nerd:

    BTW DX12 in both sides only support software features, you need new hardware for full DX 12 support. Both parties conveniently forgot to mention that. :no:

    BTW i expected AMD 7850 be around Rs18000 in SL. Rs35000 is f##king high for that card. :growl:
     

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    AMD support DX12 for all CGN series cards, that include 7XXX/8xxx & R 2XX cards. It's nVidia who doesn't even fully support DX 11.1/11.2(Google it..)

    Physx is almost dead mate. Very few games support it and if you enable it,your game frame rate will drop (Single card). :nerd:

    BTW DX12 in both sides only support software features, you need new hardware for full DX 12 support. Both parties conveniently forgot to mention that. :no:

    BTW i expected AMD 7850 be around Rs18000 in SL. Rs35000 is f##king high for that card. :growl:

    I don't need to google it now because I kept my eye on the release of DirectX 12 API's presentation and I studied about the API ever since Microsoft announced it and in there Nvidia vice president stated all cards since GTX 400 supported to DirectX 12 API as soon as the API is released to public but still ATI didn't say like that so stop lying lol

    PhysX is NOT almost dead? want proofs?
    http://physxinfo.com/index.php?p=gam&f=gpu

    there are almost 30+ games that supported to PhysX and more are upcoming and it's not just PhysX there are CUDA games too like Just Cause.

    NO you again failed . do you even know what is the core feature of the DirectX 12 API? lol :rofl: DirectX 12 is about optimizing the API and allow developers to access to the GPU without going through the CPU so there is no bottleneck and game will run more closer to the metal and it's somewhat like Mental API and the API will also gain the fully advantage of the multi core processors by spreading the load among multiple cores. so that's the core part of the DirectX 12 API and this already exists in Consoles but it's a new thing for PCs.

    so you don't need new hardware to gain fully advantage of the new DX API all you need the Software support (like OS , API support) and a game that runs on DirectX 12 API.

    yeah because you ain't living in Sri Lanka so don't talk if you don't know the facts.

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    I don't need to google it now because I kept my eye on the release of DirectX 12 API's presentation and I studied about the API ever since Microsoft announced it and in there Nvidia vice president stated all cards since GTX 400 supported to DirectX 12 API as soon as the API is released to public but still ATI didn't say like that so stop lying lol

    PhysX is NOT almost dead? want proofs?
    http://physxinfo.com/index.php?p=gam&f=gpu

    there are almost 30+ games that supported to PhysX and more are upcoming and it's not just PhysX there are CUDA games too like Just Cause.

    NO you again failed . do you even know what is the core feature of the DirectX 12 API? lol :rofl: DirectX 12 is about optimizing the API and allow developers to access to the GPU without going through the CPU so there is no bottleneck and game will run more closer to the metal and it's somewhat like Mental API and the API will also gain the fully advantage of the multi core processors by spreading the load among multiple cores. so that's the core part of the DirectX 12 API and this already exists in Consoles but it's a new thing for PCs.

    so you don't need new hardware to gain fully advantage of the new DX API all you need the Software support (like OS , API support) and a game that runs on DirectX 12 API.

    yeah because you ain't living in Sri Lanka so don't talk if you don't know the facts.

    It's the fking nvidia who says you need new cards for full support

    http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...needed-to-take-fully-advantage-of-directx-12/

    I know what's DX12 doing and It's just M$ following AMD's Mental route, don't brag about something after reading few articles and think you know better. AMD CGN cards support DX12 and check the below link

    http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-demonstrates-2014mar20.aspx

    you like it or not Physx is almost dead.
     

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    It's the fking nvidia who says you need new cards for full support

    http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...needed-to-take-fully-advantage-of-directx-12/

    I know what's DX12 doing and It's just M$ following AMD's Mental route, don't brag about something after reading few articles and think you know better. AMD CGN cards support DX12 and check the below link

    http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-demonstrates-2014mar20.aspx

    you like it or not Physx is almost dead.

    lol no I have been reading many articles not just few articles like you. you just want to emphasize the pros part of the ATI and bash on Nvidia it sounds like you are an errand boy of ATI at least you appear to be. current DirectX 11 cards presented by Nvidia supported to DirectX 12 , I didn't say all features of the DirectX 12 will support because I have yet to know the features in the DirectX 12 and the same thing was mentioned the Article so you go and read it again properly, so without knowing the features no one knows exactly how far the current hardware supports to the next DirectX API. and about ATI I think you didn't read the article completely.

    "A DirectX® 12 support schedule for AMD Radeon™ GPUs will be published at a later date."

    which means it has yet to be published so without publishing the specification ,support schedule which includes the supporting extent and the hardware versions how do you know current hardware supports to the next API?

    NO PhysX is not DEAD actually it has been improving ever since the version 2 SDK and they even plan to release the next version so soon with some awesome features that can be used to manipulate the particles like cloths, water ,dusts and rigid bodies etc. another thing is there are more upcoming games come with PhysX like Assassin's Creed Unity and Witcher 3 etc.. so try harder on google because you failed again.
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