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    yes, logically apaya should a place where everyone suffers more that they would suffer in earth (for example) so yes even though in many adaptation they never portray yamapalla as someone who gets suffered, the logical reality there should be the opposite. But the issue is some people interpret apaya as the place with total suffering , 0 happiness or satisfaction.

    i haven't encountered a single passage saying apaya is the place with total suffering :no: they could be enjoying some aspects of suffering through masochism :yes: we humans do. so why not them.
     

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    Assignment ekk bn :dull:
    Karala diyanko :yes::love:

    IT assignment ekakne.. IT wala project report wala lokuwata English one na bn. Ube idea eka therenawa nam athi.. Tech field eke inna godak unta hodata English ba bn. oka ganan ganna epa.. kohoma hari liyapan ethakota ubata liyanna purudu wei.. liyala ewapan ko.. balala feedback ekak dennam
     

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    IT assignment ekakne.. IT wala project report wala lokuwata English one na bn. Ube idea eka therenawa nam athi.. Tech field eke inna godak unta hodata English ba bn. oka ganan ganna epa.. kohoma hari liyapan ethakota ubata liyanna purudu wei.. liyala ewapan ko.. balala feedback ekak dennam

    Project reportnm karaganna pluwan putha
    Meka theory subject ekka assignment ekkne :sorry:
    Apita final yr asigmnt base hnda lakunu okkoma meken :sorry:
     

    KasunKDP

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    avichi. not not even there. most of our enjoyment stems from loba sith. it's never said that they don't feel loba in apaya :no:
    those places are described in contrast to human life.

    is the any possibility what buddha meant by apaya and heaven was just states of mind? I mean all the suffering and joy is attainable on earth itself, and also interestingly, they are temporary just like how the times a being spend in heavens and apayas are said to be limited.
     
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    Pessimist

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    is the any possibility what buddha meant by apaya and heaven was just states of mind? I mean all the suffering and joy is attainable on earth itself, and also interestingly, they are temporary just like how the times a being spend in heavens and apayas are said to be limited.

    that's exactly the essence of buddhism. hells, heavens, this world, all these places and forms of being are temporary and invoke sadness and dissatisfaction in beings. the only way to overcome all that is ceasing to exist. a cosmic suicide id call it. killing that thing which makes u feel as if u exist throughout ur existence in many forms.

    we get reborn somewhere after our death because we desire to be born. getting rid of that desire requires training. that's what they do in meditation. they train to concentrate their minds in one thing and then contemplate the meaningless and undesirability of all forms of life. when ur mind stops having certain desires those states are given names like sovan, arhat etc. when u fully understand the reality u wouldn't have the slightest desire to be born or exist and with ur last though in that life ur whole existent ceases to exist.
     

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    පොඩි කාලෙ අල්ලපු ගෙදර අංකල් සීනි බෝල දිඔලා පුකේ ඇරියම ඔහොම වෙනවා තමයි පොන්ස්
     

    Dodo Mahaththaya

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    Who posted this Thread......... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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    that's exactly the essence of buddhism. hells, heavens, this world, all these places and forms of being are temporary and invoke sadness and dissatisfaction in beings. the only way to overcome all that is ceasing to exist. a cosmic suicide id call it. killing that thing which makes u feel as if u exist throughout ur existence in many forms.

    we get reborn somewhere after our death because we desire to be born. getting rid of that desire requires training. that's what they do in meditation. they train to concentrate their minds in one thing and then contemplate the meaningless and undesirability of all forms of life. when ur mind stops having certain desires those states are given names like sovan, arhat etc. when u fully understand the reality u wouldn't have the slightest desire to be born or exist and with ur last though in that life ur whole existent ceases to exist.

    well, that is not something we can know from experience. But if we remove the "reborn" part off it , of course it makes sense. In other words if we apply Buddhist principals to the knows domain of us ; from birth to death, I consider it to be the only sensible way to suffer less in this existence from birth to death, total detachment is the nirvana.
     

    Pessimist

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    well, that is not something we can know from experience. But if we remove the "reborn" part off it , of course it makes sense. In other words if we apply Buddhist principals to the knows domain of us ; from birth to death, I consider it to be the only sensible way to suffer less in this existence from birth to death, total detachment is the nirvana.

    i think suicide is the most advisable thing if u remove the reborn part from buddhism :yes:
     

    KasunKDP

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    i think suicide is the most advisable thing if u remove the reborn part from buddhism :yes:

    no, :no: one,its impossible to commit suicide unless u are severely depressed, regardless of the strength of your rational thinking. two, I think its impossible to be rational and selfish at the same time. Because u'd know its not right to cop out and leave a mess for others
     

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    සිරාවට කිව්වේ මනුස්සයෝ, මේ කොමෙන්ට් ටික කියෙව්වම මගේ ඔලුව නිකන් තෝන්තු වුනා...අපි ජීවිතේට හිතන්නේ නැති පාත් වලින් උඹල හිතනවා...

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